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re: Boy Attacked and killed by a pit bull

Posted on 7/8/15 at 11:22 am to
Posted by YouAre8Up
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Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 7/8/15 at 11:22 am to
#pitbulllivesmatter
Posted by iAmBatman
The Batcave
Member since Mar 2011
12382 posts
Posted on 7/8/15 at 11:23 am to
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Do you really not see a difference between a piece of steel that I command and an ugly fricking dog that kills babies because they want to?


Total control
Posted by Artie Rome
Hwy 1
Member since Jul 2014
8757 posts
Posted on 7/8/15 at 11:23 am to
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This sounds awfully familiar to the "my dog would never do that argument"


No. Not even the same ballpark.

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I'm sure I could pull an article where the parent says the gun was kept in a safe but the child still managed to get a hold of it.


I'm sure you could too. Can you pull as many, per capita, as kids that are killed by pitbulls?

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I'm simply pointing out that blanket statements saying that all pitbulls should be banned is asinine.


Tell me again, what is the point of keeping this breed, that we created, around?
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
119977 posts
Posted on 7/8/15 at 11:24 am to
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I could make the same argument with accidental gun deaths involving children if that makes you feel better. You don't need to own a gun just like you don't need to own a pitbull.


The pit bull is the AK-47 of dogs. No one needs one and they're are way over the top dangerous. Just imagine if the AK-47 was the third most popular gun in the U.S., and it accidentally killed 30 times more people than the next closest gun. Do you think we should put up with our citizens being armed with these things? No, and people shouldn't have these vicious piece of shite dogs either.
This post was edited on 7/8/15 at 11:29 am
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 7/8/15 at 11:24 am to
you can't compare a living dog that attacks on its own to an inanimate object.
Posted by Macintosh
Lane State University
Member since Sep 2011
55783 posts
Posted on 7/8/15 at 11:26 am to
The kid probably started the fight.
Posted by Artie Rome
Hwy 1
Member since Jul 2014
8757 posts
Posted on 7/8/15 at 11:27 am to
You really don't see a difference between total control and what happened in that story? Really?

Again. Tell me the societal purpose these man-created monsters serve? One that couldn't be served by the other hundreds of dog breeds that don't kill kids on a regular basis. I'll hang up and listen.
Posted by Barf
EBR
Member since Feb 2015
3727 posts
Posted on 7/8/15 at 11:28 am to
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Wrong. I have shotguns for hunting and pistols for fun and killing people. I am in complete control of those inanimate items. I do not have a cache of volatile chemicals that could go of at any random time. The government prohibits such things.

Do you really not see a difference between a piece of steel that I command and an ugly fricking dog that kills babies because they want to?


It's possible to disagree without lowering yourself to acting like a child.

The point is you, as a responsible owner, should not be punished for others carelessness.
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 7/8/15 at 11:28 am to
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The pit bull is the AK-47 of guns. No one needs one and they're are way over the top dangerous. Just imagine if the AK-47 was the third most popular gun in the U.S., and it accidentally killed 30 times more people than the next closest gun. Do you think we should put up with our citizens being armed with these things? No, and people shouldn't have these vicious piece of shite dogs either.


While I tend to agree, we absolutely should not go around and kill family pets. There are lots of pit bull mixes that are wonderful dogs too, where do we draw the line? I know a great pit bull/boxer mix.

Just outlaw their breeding going forward and enforce with incredibly stiff financial penalty. Like game warden shite: confiscate the property where the crime was committed.
Posted by Barf
EBR
Member since Feb 2015
3727 posts
Posted on 7/8/15 at 11:32 am to
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you can't compare a living dog that attacks on its own to an inanimate object.


It's not about the dog. It's never been about the dog. It's about personal responsibility.

You can not punish responsible people for the actions of the irresponsible.
Posted by CptRusty
Basket of Deplorables
Member since Aug 2011
11740 posts
Posted on 7/8/15 at 11:35 am to
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She also told dispatchers that the neighbor's gate was locked and she could not get inside their yard


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her son and other kids climbed the fence frequently and that the home owner's were not home


don't start no shite won't be no shite
Posted by Not Cooper
Member since Jun 2015
5019 posts
Posted on 7/8/15 at 11:37 am to
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The comparison of a gun to a pit bull is absurd.


I think you have taken the comparison too literally. A child does not know what a pitbull is capable of just as he does not know what a gun is capable of. The owner of the gun (and the dog) know full well what it is capable of as does any competent parent.
Posted by BigSquirrel
Member since Jul 2013
1880 posts
Posted on 7/8/15 at 11:37 am to
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It's not about the dog. It's never been about the dog. It's about personal responsibility. You can not punish responsible people for the actions of the irresponsible.


Whoa now, it's done all the time. Curfews, speed limits, insurance rates.
Posted by boddagetta
Moulton
Member since Mar 2011
10059 posts
Posted on 7/8/15 at 11:37 am to
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The dog didn't hop the fence, the kid did.


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6 year old deserved it. Got it.


I won't go as far as to say the 6 year old deserved it, but the 6 year old would be alive today if he/she would not have jumped the fence into the dog owner's yard. This falls on the parent for not keeping an eye on her child or teaching the child not to go in other people's fenced in yards.
Posted by AwesomeSauce
Das Boot
Member since May 2015
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Posted on 7/8/15 at 11:39 am to
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
72026 posts
Posted on 7/8/15 at 11:40 am to
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While I tend to agree, we absolutely should not go around and kill family pets. There are lots of pit bull mixes that are wonderful dogs too, where do we draw the line? I know a great pit bull/boxer mix.



That's what makes pit bulls so dangerous though. According to the article this kid knew and played with this dog in the past. So I'm sure before this attack the dog was considered by everyone around it to be a "wonderful dog".

That's the thing about pits, they're great dogs... right up until the moment they're not.
Posted by Artie Rome
Hwy 1
Member since Jul 2014
8757 posts
Posted on 7/8/15 at 11:43 am to
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It's possible to disagree without lowering yourself to acting like a child.


They are ugly. That is not a childish opinion. Childish is thinking that owning a pit is cool.

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The point is you, as a responsible owner, should not be punished for others carelessness.


I don't know what this means in this context.
Posted by Barf
EBR
Member since Feb 2015
3727 posts
Posted on 7/8/15 at 11:45 am to
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If you chose to believe the article...



Fixed it for you.
Posted by Artie Rome
Hwy 1
Member since Jul 2014
8757 posts
Posted on 7/8/15 at 11:45 am to
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It's not about the dog. It's never been about the dog.


Yes, it is.

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You can not punish responsible people for the actions of the irresponsible.


Why do you love these dogs so much? Why can't you have a lab like everyone else? Its a serious question. What do these known time-bombs offer that you can't find in another breed?
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 7/8/15 at 11:47 am to
There are some gorgeous pits out there. That's a stupid and irrelevant argument to make.
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