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re: Boy Attacked and killed by a pit bull

Posted on 7/8/15 at 11:12 am to
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Posted on 7/8/15 at 11:12 am to
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I could make the same argument with accidental gun deaths involving children if that makes you feel better.

You don't need to own a gun just like you don't need to own a pitbull.


Your argument might make sense if guns were known to just randomly jump up and kill people by themselves without any warning.
Posted by Artie Rome
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Posted on 7/8/15 at 11:13 am to
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I could make the same argument with accidental gun deaths involving children of that makes you feel better.


How would that make me feel better?

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You don't need to own a gun just like you don't need to own a pitbull.


You are absolutely right. But my gun, which is secured in a safe in my house, will never kill another person unless I command it to do so. Your shitty pit-bull?
Posted by sicboy
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Posted on 7/8/15 at 11:13 am to
My decision to never have my kids around pit bulls isn't going to infringe on anyone's right to have one, so what does it matter? I have the right to do whatever I feel is in the best interest of my kid's safety.


It all comes down to responsibility. Be responsible for your kids, be responsible with your pit bull. Maybe it's a bunch of shitty owners, but if whether or not the dog will become a killer is solely dependent on how the owner tends to the dog, I'm all for keeping away from the general public. My trust for certain people is less than my trust for an instinctual animal.
Posted by Not Cooper
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Posted on 7/8/15 at 11:13 am to
Cows/Bulls kill around 20 people per year too.. BAN ALL ANIMALS
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 7/8/15 at 11:14 am to
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I have a great aunt who was killed by two pitbulls. I wish they would be outlawed and anyone found to be owning one given a misdemeanor conviction. I smile every time I hear of one getting shot or put to sleep.


Well, you're pretty sick and twisted then, since all that means is that some innocent just likely shared your aunt's fate.
Posted by ShoeBang
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 7/8/15 at 11:14 am to
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Horses kill 20 people per year in the U.S. alone. Why haven't we banned them?


Most horses don't live in neighhhhhborhoods (couldn't resist) in close proximity to many people and they don't just snap and wtfpwn stomp people on a regular basis. Your argument is invalid.

If horses were hopping fences to attack people for no fricking reason all the time, I'd be more apt to listen to this argument.
Posted by Artie Rome
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Posted on 7/8/15 at 11:15 am to
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Cows/Bulls kill around 20 people per year too.. BAN ALL ANIMALS


Don't get me started on lightning.
Posted by Barf
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Posted on 7/8/15 at 11:16 am to
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You are absolutely right. But my gun, which is secured in a safe in my house, will never kill another person unless I command it to do so. Your shitty pit-bull?


That's not the point. The point is you should not be told to get rid of you gun because someone else couldn't control their own.

Posted by ShoeBang
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 7/8/15 at 11:16 am to
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you're pretty sick and twisted then


The smile isn't about the person that got attacked. The smile is that one less useless killer animal is on this planet. I feel for everyone attacked. I know the pain my family went through so I understand theirs. Nice try putting words in my mouth though.
Posted by Not Cooper
Member since Jun 2015
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Posted on 7/8/15 at 11:18 am to
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Most horses don't live in neighhhhhborhoods


I laughed, gotta give it to you on that one.

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If horses were hopping fences to attack people


The dog didn't hop the fence, the kid did.
Posted by Happygilmore
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Posted on 7/8/15 at 11:19 am to
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Most horses don't live in neighhhhhborhoods (couldn't resist)


under rated IMO
Posted by iAmBatman
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Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 7/8/15 at 11:19 am to
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You are absolutely right. But my gun, which is secured in a safe in my house, will never kill another person unless I command it to do so. Your shitty pit-bull?


This sounds awfully familiar to the "my dog would never do that argument"

I'm sure I could pull an article where the parent says the gun was kept in a safe but the child still managed to get a hold of it.

I'm simply pointing out that blanket statements saying that all pitbulls should be banned is asinine. Bad stuff happens and we can't go around trying to ban everything that causes harm. At some point we (as parents) have to take personal responsibility
Posted by Jagd Tiger
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Member since Mar 2014
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Posted on 7/8/15 at 11:19 am to
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Such a wonderful breed of dog.



all dogs and dog owners are equally awesome, right?

Posted by Artie Rome
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Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 7/8/15 at 11:20 am to
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That's not the point. The point is you should not be told to get rid of you gun because someone else couldn't control their own.


Wrong. I have shotguns for hunting and pistols for fun and killing people. I am in complete control of those inanimate items. I do not have a cache of volatile chemicals that could go of at any random time. The government prohibits such things.

Do you really not see a difference between a piece of steel that I command and an ugly fricking dog that kills babies because they want to?
Posted by iAmBatman
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Posted on 7/8/15 at 11:21 am to
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My decision to never have my kids around pit bulls isn't going to infringe on anyone's right to have one, so what does it matter? I have the right to do whatever I feel is in the best interes


You absolutely right but you said "call me irrational" which is exactly what I did.
Posted by Artie Rome
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Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 7/8/15 at 11:21 am to
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The dog didn't hop the fence, the kid did.


6 year old deserved it. Got it.
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 7/8/15 at 11:21 am to
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Interesting outlook. What about other breeds that have killed people. Should they be banned as well? Or is your personal vendetta the most important?


Well, if we eliminated the top 3 that would be a good start.
Pits, Rots, and..... We wouldn't want to piss off the white trash and hood rats though, would we?


Rots are nothing like pits. I don't want my kids around pits, but rotties are incredible family dogs and don't go off the hinges for no reason.

If they attack someone it is much more at fault of the people teaching it to do so.

Pits can be raised in a loving home and still snap. Rotties are not at all like that. Sadly, because they are big and mean looking, people train them protection dogs, much like dobermans or mastiffs. Rotties are cuddly goofballs.
Posted by sicboy
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Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 7/8/15 at 11:21 am to
It wasn't a request
Posted by ShoeBang
Member since May 2012
19356 posts
Posted on 7/8/15 at 11:22 am to
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The dog didn't hop the fence, the kid did.


In this particular instance the dog didn't. Even within fencing, how many horses just attack people regardless of fence hopping frequency?
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
64485 posts
Posted on 7/8/15 at 11:22 am to
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That's not the point. The point is you should not be told to get rid of you gun because someone else couldn't control their own.



The comparison of a gun to a pit bull is absurd. A firearm is a totally inanimate object incapable of any self action independent away from human manipulation. I can take a fully loaded firearm, lay it on a table, and unless I or someone else comes along and picks it up, it will sit on that table until it's literally nothing but a pile of rust.

A dog on the other hand is a living animal capable of independent and totally unpredictable action without any human control or manipulation.

This post was edited on 7/8/15 at 11:24 am
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