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re: Bosses are firing Gen Z grads just months after hiring them
Posted on 5/8/25 at 2:20 pm to slidingstop
Posted on 5/8/25 at 2:20 pm to slidingstop
It’s so easy as a young person to stand out these days. Not nearly as much competition when your competition is in the corner complaining about everything under the sun.
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Posted on 5/8/25 at 2:30 pm to Nutriaitch
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not gonna take your money, but I'll buy you a beer if you can find an actual legit article like that from 1942.
Posted on 5/8/25 at 2:34 pm to kingbob
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Employers refuse to train employees. Employers hire employees out of school with no experience. Employer complains that employees behave like they’re poorly trained. Duh: YOU DID NOT TRAIN THEM!!
I'm happy to train them, but some of them come in thinking that the job will train them to do everything including what they should have learned in school. For engineering, you should be able to handle math. You should be able to read and interpret codes. You should be able to write in coherent sentences. You should be able to use those coherent sentences to tell me what's going on. You should be able to take an assigned task and produce at least a rough cut of the end goal. You should be able to try and look for an answer if you don't know the answer.
Training does not mean teaching them what they should already know how to do. It's why I try to avoid hiring "C" students (usually the ones who don't put their GPA). I know I'm in for an uphill battle if I do.
Posted on 5/8/25 at 2:36 pm to Scruffy
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So, what is the point of college then?
What purpose does the time and debt serve?
The point is to learn something about a specific profession and also learn how to learn. I do not put it all on the colleges. Students have to take ownership of their education and a lot of them do not. Path of least resistance, get by with a "C", and the job will train me. No thanks.
Posted on 5/8/25 at 2:37 pm to kingbob
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Employers refuse to train employees. Employers hire employees out of school with no experience. Employer complains that employees behave like they’re poorly trained. Duh: YOU DID NOT TRAIN THEM!!
As someone that actually, you know, trains, it's infuriating that I can't even get a lot of staff and senior level accountants to turn on their cameras. At this point I'm not even asking for people to come into the office, but I do expect a camera on during established training periods. Trying to talk to a circle with two initials in it is beyond frustrating, especially when I'm looking for indicators that people are actually understanding what I'm saying.
Also I do understand not wanting to go into the office, but it's kind of asinine to take a job that is up front that you need to be in the office twice a week only to stop showing up.
This post was edited on 5/8/25 at 2:43 pm
Posted on 5/8/25 at 2:43 pm to Jcorye1
I wonder how much of the lack of soft skills is due to a couple things impacting kids getting jobs as teenagers.
Minimum wage increasing making for fewer low paying entry level jobs for teenagers to work in general. And the prevalence of year round sports specialization that takes up so much of a kids (and parents) time that they don't really have the time to get a job and learn how to have a job and be employable in a low stakes environment.
Minimum wage increasing making for fewer low paying entry level jobs for teenagers to work in general. And the prevalence of year round sports specialization that takes up so much of a kids (and parents) time that they don't really have the time to get a job and learn how to have a job and be employable in a low stakes environment.
Posted on 5/8/25 at 2:44 pm to olemc999
Posted on 5/8/25 at 2:44 pm to genuineLSUtiger
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Do Millennials find Gen Z to be soft?
Everyone finds Gen Z to be soft.
Posted on 5/8/25 at 2:44 pm to DesScorp
Soooo who gave these kids the trophies again? prolly your age group. fricking idiots.
Posted on 5/8/25 at 2:45 pm to DesScorp
Good. Maybe they will learn what they should have learned as children.
Nothing’s free.
Life is unfair sometimes.
You can’t always get what you want.
No allowance unless you do your chores.
That lawn ain’t gonna mow itself.
That car ain’t gonna wash itself.
Crying ain’t gonna get you anywhere with me.
Do I have to get the belt? My mom called it “The Persuader”.
Nothing’s free.
Life is unfair sometimes.
You can’t always get what you want.
No allowance unless you do your chores.
That lawn ain’t gonna mow itself.
That car ain’t gonna wash itself.
Crying ain’t gonna get you anywhere with me.
Do I have to get the belt? My mom called it “The Persuader”.
Posted on 5/8/25 at 2:47 pm to Packer
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Is this the thread where we bash a generation and ignore the generation that raised them?
yes.. Old people have no culpability for anything. They act like they werent young at one point, when they were doing absolutely nothing to help this country. Just being fricking sheep. And calling others sheep.
Posted on 5/8/25 at 2:48 pm to UptownJoeBrown
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Good. Maybe they will learn what they should have learned as children.
maybe you should have taught them that dumbass. Another old person blaming everyone else instead of lookinng in the mirror
Posted on 5/8/25 at 2:50 pm to ProjectP2294
Minimum wage isn't the devil here.
MOST schooling doesn't prepare you for the work. First year legal associates are pretty worthless.
You have to train people to do the job outside of the academic considerations.
MOST schooling doesn't prepare you for the work. First year legal associates are pretty worthless.
You have to train people to do the job outside of the academic considerations.
Posted on 5/8/25 at 2:54 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
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young people don’t want to have their arse in a seat 40 hours a week
Yeah right. Employers these days complain if their workers leave after working JUST 70 hours. Most zoomers would kill to only work 40.
Posted on 5/8/25 at 2:56 pm to wesfau
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MOST schooling doesn't prepare you for the work. First year legal associates are pretty worthless.
You have to train people to do the job outside of the academic considerations.
I understand that part.
I mean the part about learning how to be a co-worker, learning how to show up on time, all that kind of stuff. Career type jobs shouldn't be where those skills are learned. Fast food places, big box stores, chain restaurants, etc are good for that kind of thing.
Posted on 5/8/25 at 2:59 pm to El Segundo Guy
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Gen Z is as soft as room temperature butter.
A generation of millions who ALL think they are special....
Posted on 5/8/25 at 3:08 pm to wesfau
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Minimum wage isn't the devil here.
MOST schooling doesn't prepare you for the work. First year legal associates are pretty worthless.
You have to train people to do the job outside of the academic considerations.
My issue tends to be they aren't leaving college having retained any of those academic considerations. Training becomes teaching them things they should already know.
Posted on 5/8/25 at 3:09 pm to DesScorp
quote:Labor law attorneys fixin' to eat
one in seven bosses have admitted that they may avoid hiring them altogether next year.
Posted on 5/8/25 at 3:11 pm to FearTheFish
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Labor law attorneys fixin' to eat
Not opening up job reqs isn’t hiring discrimination DA
This post was edited on 5/8/25 at 3:12 pm
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