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re: Boss emailing at all hours of the night

Posted on 2/27/18 at 2:56 pm to
Posted by Brageous
Member since Jul 2008
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Posted on 2/27/18 at 2:56 pm to
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If I sent you a work email on a Saturday night I would definitely expect a response at some point on Sunday. If not then you and i would have a meeting first thing Monday morning to discuss your commitment to my company.


This is different across industries. If it's truly that important, you should text or call; however, this should not be commonplace for every weekend. Again, different industries have different needs and an employee should know what they are getting into, but you can't expect people to give up every weekend to respond to your needs unless you pay them well enough for it and it's understood ahead of time. Otherwise, you're just a dick.
Posted by lsuhunt555
Teakwood Village Breh
Member since Nov 2008
39044 posts
Posted on 2/27/18 at 2:57 pm to
quote:

If I sent you a work email on a Saturday night I would definitely expect a response at some point on Sunday. If not then you and i would have a meeting first thing Monday morning to discuss your commitment to my company.


This is why I'm glad I don't work for someone else.
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
148031 posts
Posted on 2/27/18 at 2:58 pm to
I buy low and sell high...
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
148031 posts
Posted on 2/27/18 at 2:59 pm to
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but you can't expect people to give up every weekend to respond to your needs unless you pay them well enough for it and it's understood ahead of time.


If they are working on commission you're damn right I expect them to not miss any calls or emails on the weekend or holidays.
Posted by BulldogXero
Member since Oct 2011
10380 posts
Posted on 2/27/18 at 3:00 pm to
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Does ur boss do this all the time? Is he a micro manager? Or was this a one time thing?



Well I do receive emails after hours but it's not usually the kind that requires an immediate response.

It's nothing malicious if I don't respond, but by all means call me if you really need me. I'd rather be called at 12:40 AM then be called out for missing an email that my try hard boss sent at 12:30 AM on a Saturday mornong.

I just didn't think I had any emails come through that I hadn't already seen.
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
148031 posts
Posted on 2/27/18 at 3:01 pm to
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Otherwise, you're just a dick.



Posted by Brageous
Member since Jul 2008
107724 posts
Posted on 2/27/18 at 3:01 pm to
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If they are working on commission you're damn right I expect them to not miss any calls or emails on the weekend or holidays.



Carry on then, that makes more sense. And if it's understood up front when they take the job, then it's on them. Commission based jobs are different so I can see why this makes sense.
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
72197 posts
Posted on 2/27/18 at 3:01 pm to
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The time of day that emails come in doesn’t matter at all. Just check your email, they aren’t going anywhere.

If you’re paid a salary and have a company phone the expectation is that you reasonably respond. Don’t respond at 12:30, but do by 10am at least.


you familiar with new wage and hour laws? I'd hope so if you are a manager. Hint: it doesn't make a frick of a difference if you are salaried or not.
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
148031 posts
Posted on 2/27/18 at 3:02 pm to
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Carry on then, that makes more sense. And if it's understood up front when they take the job, then it's on them. Commission based jobs are different so I can see why this makes sense.



I knew you'd understand Brag...you're a smart dude
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
72197 posts
Posted on 2/27/18 at 3:03 pm to
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Taking 10 minutes to read and respond isn’t asking too much I don’t think


it can be for those that work long hours with little breaks during the week. I have people that report back to me, and I always be sure to let them know I don't expect a response until Monday if I send a weekend email.

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And frankly responding first thing Monday AM would most likely be what the boss wanted.


has he clarified this?
Posted by Brageous
Member since Jul 2008
107724 posts
Posted on 2/27/18 at 3:04 pm to
I need to read threads more before commenting, I am jumping in balls deep like Rag used to do and I'd just watch him slowly catch up to current conversation
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
72197 posts
Posted on 2/27/18 at 3:04 pm to
I understand the sentiment, particularly for commissioned employees. But you damn sure shouldn't require it of any of your employees unless you enjoy fighting lawsuits.
This post was edited on 2/27/18 at 3:06 pm
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
72197 posts
Posted on 2/27/18 at 3:09 pm to
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If I sent you a work email on a Saturday night I would definitely expect a response at some point on Sunday. If not then you and i would have a meeting first thing Monday morning to discuss your commitment to my company.





jesus, I'm glad you're not a client of mine

be sure you pay that employee at least 47,500 if you want that conversation to not bite you in the arse later.
This post was edited on 2/27/18 at 3:12 pm
Posted by LouisianaLady
Member since Mar 2009
83168 posts
Posted on 2/27/18 at 3:12 pm to
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I do think it's an excuse for just not seeing it though


How would the time it was sent keep you from seeing it on Monday? Is there a little elf that goes into your inbox and marked this as read when they aren't?

I don't think you're grasping that no matter when it was sent, it should appear unread when you walk in on Monday morning and there's no reason that should be missed. Do you not have unread emails on Monday mornings?
Posted by Big EZ Tiger
Member since Jul 2010
26982 posts
Posted on 2/27/18 at 3:15 pm to
You should call him while you're having sex and tell him you just got his email as she screams "POUND ME IN MY arse, DADDY!!!"
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
148031 posts
Posted on 2/27/18 at 3:19 pm to
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be sure you pay that employee at least 47,500



If you answer your phone and emails on the weekend you are likely to be making much more than that

$40k is just enough to get me out of bed on Mondays
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
72197 posts
Posted on 2/27/18 at 3:26 pm to
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If you answer your phone and emails on the weekend you are likely to be making much more than that


Not true in a lot of cases. Wage and hour suits have been most prevalent in the retail industry as well as convenience stores. Assistant managers make 30-40k a year, get a company phone, work insane hours and are expected to ask high when told to jump.

it's also widely expected that the 47,456 or whatever it is exactly is going to continue to increase.
Posted by Howyouluhdat
On Fleek St
Member since Jan 2015
9192 posts
Posted on 2/27/18 at 3:27 pm to
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I work to live and not the other way around.



It is of the impression that most that feel this way must have a blue collar job.
Posted by BulldogXero
Member since Oct 2011
10380 posts
Posted on 2/27/18 at 3:35 pm to
The people with blue collar jobs are often the most apt to live to work because with some exceptions they aren't making enough money to do much else.

Posted by WildManGoose
Member since Nov 2005
4613 posts
Posted on 2/27/18 at 3:37 pm to
The disconnect isn't white vs blue collar. I don't know many blue collar guys that need company laptops and phones to do their jobs. It's your goofy, megalomaniacal assertion that email response time is some kind of KPI.
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