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re: Boss emailing at all hours of the night

Posted on 2/27/18 at 3:46 pm to
Posted by blueridgeTiger
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Posted on 2/27/18 at 3:46 pm to
I hear you - I used to work in the Middle East, 8 hours time difference from the home office in Dallas. My boss called often as he was getting off work, which was after mid-night my time. 99% of the time, it was just bullshite which could have been handled the next day.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 2/27/18 at 3:51 pm to
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IF you really are a manager and manage in a way that requires all of your employees to devote all of there free time to work, I guarantee you are only left with the people who nobody else wants.


You act like it's some grand task to look at a phone and send a quick reply at some point over 24 hours.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 2/27/18 at 3:52 pm to
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For the sake of conversation I'll add that I'm an engineer in the industrial field. You may consider me a "slacker", but if been fairly successful and usually am the "boss" or lead as we would say on most projects that I work on. I guess it is very industry depended but will not make work my life. I work to live and not the other way around.


Can you learn how to proof-read before you keep touting yourself as some sort of leader in your industry? Being an engineer is no excuse for writing like a 10 year old.
Posted by tigerfoot
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Posted on 2/27/18 at 3:55 pm to
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The people with blue collar jobs are often the most apt to live to work because with some exceptions they aren't making enough money to do much else.

Yeah, I would imagine the good plumbers, electricians, and HVAC guys arent in a position where they have to worry about their boss bitching about emails.

I have been in 100% commission sales for a long time, I havent turned my phone off to customers in 14 years. If you send be some garbage arse email at midnight you can expect it will be buried under a mountain more by the time I could actually provide a decent answer to your question. I can also tell you that my bosses emails are the least important emails that I receive, he is there to help me..not eat up my time with his requests.
Posted by cas4t
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Posted on 2/27/18 at 3:58 pm to
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You act like it's some grand task to look at a phone and send a quick reply at some point over 24 hours.



this is just horrible management. Keep in mind, I agree with you. But as a manager, you have to recognize that employees who are non-stop throughout the week simply don't even want to think about work over the weekend. And they don't have to. Just because it takes you one second to reply, it doesn't mean you cut your brain off right then.

The best employees Mon-Fri are the ones who know when to shut it off, in my experience. Come back recharged. Enjoy your weekend.
Posted by Lee Chatelain
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Posted on 2/27/18 at 3:58 pm to
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but damn if I'm really paying that much attention to my work email inbox on the weekend, especially those coming in at overnight hours.


Maybe you should pay more attention
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 2/27/18 at 3:59 pm to
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this is just horrible management. Keep in mind, I agree with you. But as a manager, you have to recognize that employees who are non-stop throughout the week simply don't even want to think about work over the weekend. And they don't have to. Just because it takes you one second to reply, it doesn't mean you cut your brain off right then.

The best employees Mon-Fri are the ones who know when to shut it off, in my experience. Come back recharged. Enjoy your weekend.


I re-energize just fine during the weekend, even though I occasionally think about what's going on at work in the coming. Acting like you'd quit your job because your boss expects an answer to an email within a day on a company provided phone is ludicrous.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 2/27/18 at 4:01 pm to
who pays attention to the time an email comes in when they go through emails?
Posted by tigerfoot
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Posted on 2/27/18 at 4:11 pm to
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expects an answer to an email within a day on a company provided phone is ludicrous.
why does company provided device keep being mentioned?

If you are expected to answer your boss at midnight or Sunday you should be in an industry that works 7 days a week 24 hours a day.

If the question is so mundane that the employee can answer with no research on a Sunday morning, it can wait until Monday at 8 am.

Every employee is different, some worry like hell about stuff, some dont. Just because the boss lacks the time management skills to make his requests at reasonable times should not require the employee to be inconvenienced on the weekend.

Posted by tigerfoot
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Posted on 2/27/18 at 4:14 pm to
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this is just horrible management. Keep in mind, I agree with you. But as a manager, you have to recognize that employees who are non-stop throughout the week simply don't even want to think about work over the weekend.


Exactly. And the manager is just making up for his incompetence.

In sales, no one wants to be the boss. The boss makes a whole lot less, so you get a bunch of younger lower earning reps that take the jobs. They realize they arent ready for a meeting on Monday morning when they are flying to the corporate office on Sunday afternoon and they bombard you with shite. shite you have told them 10 times in the last two weeks.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 2/27/18 at 4:15 pm to
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why does company provided device keep being mentioned?


Because its' a benefit provided by the company. If you can't figure out why that would make a difference, I don't have much for you.

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If you are expected to answer your boss at midnight or Sunday you should be in an industry that works 7 days a week 24 hours a day.


Some of yall majorly suck at reading comprehension. No one is saying reply the second the email comes.

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Just because the boss lacks the time management skills


Quite the assumption.
Posted by Howyouluhdat
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Posted on 2/27/18 at 4:15 pm to
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they aren't making enough money to do much else.



Lots of lucrative jobs in the blue collar world just fyi
This post was edited on 2/27/18 at 4:16 pm
Posted by TigerBait414
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Posted on 2/27/18 at 4:17 pm to
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Can you learn how to proof-read before you keep touting yourself as some sort of leader in your industry? Being an engineer is no excuse for writing like a 10 year old.


Never said I was a leader in my industry . I just don't understand how someone would ever want to be on the clock nonstop for any amount of money. I go to work, and while I'm there I get shite done. I work overtime when required and get paid for it. I've even done some side projects when my time allowed and I choose to. But I'll be damned if my boss wanted to have a sit down on Monday morning and question my commitment to "his company" because I didn't answer his Saturday night email by Sunday. I have more self-respect than to put up with that shite.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 2/27/18 at 4:18 pm to
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I just don't understand how someone would ever want to be on the clock nonstop for any amount of money.


You consider looking at you phone as on the clock

ETA: And you're another one talking about getting paid for working any extra while posting on company time. Yall are great.
This post was edited on 2/27/18 at 4:20 pm
Posted by TigerBait414
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Posted on 2/27/18 at 4:19 pm to
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You consider looking at you phone as on the clock


If I'm looking at tigerdroppings, no. If I'm responding to a work email then yes. You should really look into those overtime laws posted earlier.
Posted by tgrbaitn08
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Posted on 2/27/18 at 4:20 pm to
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But I'll be damned if my boss wanted to have a sit down on Monday morning and question my commitment to "his company" because I didn't answer his Saturday night email by Sunday. I have more self-respect than to put up with that shite.


fricking millennials
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 2/27/18 at 4:21 pm to
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You should really look into those overtime laws posted earlier.


Or I could just take two seconds to respond to an email and go on with my day knowing full well that I waste time during the work day on a message board.
This post was edited on 2/27/18 at 4:22 pm
Posted by Howyouluhdat
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Posted on 2/27/18 at 4:21 pm to
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And you're another one talking about getting paid for working any extra while posting on company time



It's odd that you think you know people's working hours
Posted by BulldogXero
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 2/27/18 at 4:21 pm to
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Lots of lucrative jobs in the blue collar world just fyi


Welders for one. Heck, waitresses in some high dollar restaurants probably make more than some salaried employees.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 2/27/18 at 4:22 pm to
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It's odd that you think you know people's working hours


Post a pic of where you are right now.
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