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re: Border Patrol-involved shooting in Minneapolis; person shot was allegedly armed

Posted on 1/26/26 at 3:22 pm to
Posted by chRxis
None of your fricking business
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 1/26/26 at 3:22 pm to
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I still hooked two so far

not sure what this means, but congratulations, i guess...
Posted by Mung
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Posted on 1/26/26 at 3:24 pm to
Well, the reality is that 90%+ of the arrested have no criminal record, or only misdemeanor charges, making the majority of ICE captures driven by quotas. The citizens have the right to assemble and petition their government for redress. If you think bear spray and beat downs are an appropriate level of force for an unarmed lady blowing a whistle, I don’t know what to tell you. These guys are eventually going to provoke a deadly response, which will then be used like a Reichstag fire incident to justify even worse govt crackdowns.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 1/26/26 at 3:27 pm to
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not sure what this means, but congratulations, i guess...


It means my response to you was on purpose and sarcasm. I was under the assumption you picked up on that, however I've got a couple downvoters who apparently didn't.

Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 1/26/26 at 3:27 pm to
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The “can” is not dealing with illegals. It is dealing with the people protecting them in cities like Minneapolis. What I’m saying is that there may be more value in dealing with that problem now than allowing it to fester for years while you pick off all the low hanging fruit. The high hanging fruit may be too big and too ripe / spoiled to pick by the time you get around to it.


This argument makes more sense with the assumption of future Presidents with Trumpian immigration policies. I don't expect these policies to continue much longer, possibly ending as son as January 2029.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
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Posted on 1/26/26 at 3:28 pm to
Yeah Noem and Bovino fricked it
Posted by NawlinsTiger9
Where the mongooses roam
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Posted on 1/26/26 at 3:34 pm to


Damn can’t believe this and just lying his arse off at every opportunity didn’t play
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
46208 posts
Posted on 1/26/26 at 3:38 pm to
Just photoshop one of those Soviet fur hats with the hammer and sickle emblem on the front and it'll fix him right up.

Posted by chRxis
None of your fricking business
Member since Feb 2008
27939 posts
Posted on 1/26/26 at 4:07 pm to
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It means my response to you was on purpose and sarcasm

that's what i was thinking, just was making sure.. it's all good, my dude... hope you have a great rest of your week

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I was under the assumption you picked up on that



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I've got a couple downvoters who apparently didn't.


frick 'em
Posted by dallastigers
Member since Dec 2003
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Posted on 1/26/26 at 5:17 pm to
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Well, the reality is that 90%+ of the arrested have no criminal record, or only misdemeanor charges,


First off misdemeanors or even no charges outside of being illegal is enough for me to support deportation.

But do you have an official link for this that covers the entire 2025 year (not the month that began with the shutdown)? And does this link include suspected crimes of the illegals arrested?

Certain types of convictions are only required to deport legal aliens, and since the deportation process is considered civil and requires a lot less due process than a criminal conviction many deportations happen without pushing for criminal charges or convictions for some crimes an illegal may be suspected of committing. Also, some Judges/DAs have worked to undercharged illegals and legal aliens to avoid higher bail or automatic deportation for a conviction of certain crimes.
Posted by dallastigers
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Posted on 1/26/26 at 5:24 pm to
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"I’ve seen organized resistance up close," special forces veteran Eric Schwalm posted on Sunday, and "from Anbar to Helmand, the pattern is familiar: spotters, cutouts, dead drops (or modern equivalents), disciplined comms, role specialization, and a willingness to absorb casualties while bleeding the stronger force slowly."

"What’s unfolding in Minneapolis right now isn’t 'protest',” he continued. "It’s low-level insurgency infrastructure, built by people who’ve clearly studied the playbook."

"This isn’t spontaneous outrage. This is C2 (command and control) with redundancy, OPSEC hygiene, and task organization that would make a SF team sergeant nod in recognition. Replace 'ICE agents' with 'occupying coalition forces' and the structure maps almost 1:1 to early-stage urban cells we hunted in the mid-2000s."

Schwalm also noted that "the most sobering part" is that what he's seen in Minneapolis isn't just a note-for-note replay of what he fought a war against in the Middle East; "It’s domestic."

…Funded, trained (somewhere), and directed by people who live in the same country they’re trying to paralyze law enforcement in. When your own citizens build and operate this level of parallel intelligence and rapid-response network against federal officers—complete with doxxing, vehicle pursuits, and harassment that’s already turned lethal—you’re no longer dealing with civil disobedience. You’re facing a distributed resistance that’s learned the lessons of successful insurgencies: stay below the kinetic threshold most of the time, force over-reaction when possible, maintain popular support through narrative, and never present a single center of gravity.

He concluded that "history shows these things don’t de-escalate on their own once the infrastructure exists and the cadre believe they’re winning the information war."
Posted by Ronaldo Burgundiaz
NWA
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 1/26/26 at 5:37 pm to
Honestly I'm way more shook up about the 16 year old girl that died in the sledding accident than what happened here.

An absolute MENSA candidate decided to take a gun to confront federal agents who are performing LEGAL government actions. The level of stupid it takes to do something like this is mind-blowing. All for what, to protect Somali 'daycares'?

Vance was correct: the lesbian, the guy who set himself on fire, and this guy were all killed by their ideology and religious fanaticism. I call it a religion because that is what progressivism is. They claim to be atheists but they are even MORE fervent in their beliefs than 99% of today's Christians.
Posted by NawlinsTiger9
Where the mongooses roam
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 1/26/26 at 5:40 pm to
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Vance was correct: the lesbian, the guy who set himself on fire, and this guy were all killed by their ideology and religious fanaticism


That’s crazy because I thought Pretti was unarmed when he was shot in the back of the head by an ICE agent

Is that not what happened?
Posted by dallastigers
Member since Dec 2003
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Posted on 1/26/26 at 5:45 pm to
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Policy decisions at the state and local level in Minnesota have successfully reduced the number of deportations and deportation rate over states like Texas. Even with 2,000-3,000 additional immigration enforcement agents in Minnesota the state has managed to keep the per capita deportation rate at under 30 per 100,000 residents (29.12). Meanwhile in Texas where the state and most localities (with the exception of Austin that continues to resist ICE cooperation) per capita deportations are at 58.26 per 100,000 residents. The most shocking statistic is the fact that Texas has deported 18,887 illegals and yet has almost no violent confrontations (only 2) as evidenced by the data and anecdotal evidence. On the other hand with just 1,710 deporations (less than 10% of Texas) Minnesota has had 21 violent confrontations and two deaths. The policy decisions of Gov Tim Walz and Mayor Frey 116 times more likely that a deportation encounter will be violent than in Texas.
https://x.com/amuse/status/2015853374323949776?s=46
Posted by dallastigers
Member since Dec 2003
10619 posts
Posted on 1/26/26 at 7:43 pm to
Some of the highlighted arrests in Minnesota. Database and its keyword search is a little buggy still. I wish they would allow more to a page or just scroll thru them all on one page. It’s not like database contains all arrests.

41 pages for Minnesota.
https://www.dhs.gov/wow?combine=&field_country_of_origin_target_id=All&field_state_value=Minnesota&page=0

I looked over a few pages for Minnesota.
My first question is what is going on with this guy’s head?? Yes he is an illegal from Somalia (probably taught at the Learing Center).


European white male arrested


Canadian…


A German apparently doing black face


A Russian



This is for Louisiana. 37 pages
https://www.dhs.gov/wow?combine=&field_country_of_origin_target_id=All&field_state_value=Louisiana
Quazeem from Nigeria learned the look to fit in…



Texas has 372 pages
https://www.dhs.gov/wow?combine=&field_country_of_origin_target_id=All&field_state_value=Texas

Keyword search wasn’t great for multiple words, so I just used “sex” for sex offenders in this database. It will leave out anyone with sexual crime(s) that doesn’t contain the term “sex” in name of crime. Many of rapists committed more than one sex offense along with rape and show in search but not all of them. You can do a search for “rape” as well.
https://www.dhs.gov/wow?combine=Sex&field_country_of_origin_target_id=All&field_state_value=All&page=0
Posted by NawlinsTiger9
Where the mongooses roam
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 1/26/26 at 8:32 pm to
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One trend across basically all polling outlets - this administration has set its support on fire

Gotta be why they’re making changes now.
Posted by lionward2014
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2015
14073 posts
Posted on 1/26/26 at 11:56 pm to
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harassment that’s already turned lethal—you’re no longer dealing with civil disobedience


Well this is a tad disingenuous.
Posted by pankReb
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Member since Mar 2009
73099 posts
Posted on 1/27/26 at 7:04 am to
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Being a person who has never supported Keith Ellison or valued what he has to say, I will say this has no impact on me. I imagine the only way this would mean something is if you or your audience was a big supporter of Keith Ellison, prior to that revelation.


It’s to show hypocrisy. It really isn’t that hard of a concept.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
46208 posts
Posted on 1/27/26 at 7:53 am to
It would probably be received better if you posted the actual polls, not a rather biased reporter of polls who doesn't even link back to the original poll.

Their post history is rather....one direction.

Posted by NawlinsTiger9
Where the mongooses roam
Member since Jan 2009
39702 posts
Posted on 1/27/26 at 8:33 am to
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It would probably be received better





You know that ain’t true
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
46208 posts
Posted on 1/27/26 at 9:52 am to
Well then don't bitch when someone posts an equally biased and one sided poll showing Trump's numbers are doing great.

I'm just saying you could at least attempt to not be partisan.

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