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re: Border Patrol-involved shooting in Minneapolis; person shot was allegedly armed

Posted on 1/26/26 at 9:30 am to
Posted by c on z
Zamunda
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Posted on 1/26/26 at 9:30 am to
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Has anyone ever answered the question as to why Biden didn't just release the files during his 4 years, 2 of which he had a majority Dem congress? It's like they fought tooth and nail to not release them and waited on power flipping to get on the "RELEASE THE FILES ALREADY!" train

They couldn’t do it while the Ghislane Maxwell case was ongoing. It also wasn’t clear at the time whether or not the FBI was investigating other suspects connected to Epstein.
Posted by Ingeniero
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2013
23042 posts
Posted on 1/26/26 at 9:31 am to
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You're suggesting that's all he did? If so how was that "protecting a woman"?


The woman who was shoved down? Absolutely it was. There's a gif in this thread showing the agent had to close the distance to even be close enough to shove her down. He got his feelings hurt and lashed out, assaulting a civilian.

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also, what's a woman?


You must have me confused for a leftie. Far from it. You won't catch me defending troons
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
46208 posts
Posted on 1/26/26 at 9:32 am to
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Oh well your dishonesty was just revealed


You say this, then post this:

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Trump's admin stupidly (I'm guessing via hubris from the favorable reporting on Somali fraud) to create the largest ICE operation in history in MN. The DEMs welcomed this bad move, let Trump make the mistake, and the DEMs are gaining the most significant victory against Trump since the 2024 election disaster. Trump is now in a quagmire where the smart people in his admin understand the gravity of their frickup, while the stupid people are posting nonsense on Twitter and making the admin look worse. Oh, and there is internal division b/c ICE and CBP b/c CBP keeps making the mistakes that ICE is getting blamed for.


Only critical of the Trump admin, and in fact seem to admire the democrat response.

Your "impartiality" is noted.
Posted by Chucktown_Badger
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Posted on 1/26/26 at 9:33 am to
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They couldn’t do it while the Ghislane Maxwell case was ongoing. It also wasn’t clear at the time whether or not the FBI was investigating other suspects connected to Epstein.


She was sentenced on June 28, 2022. Midterms didn't happen until November. Soooooo....what else ya got?
This post was edited on 1/26/26 at 9:34 am
Posted by pankReb
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Posted on 1/26/26 at 9:34 am to
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She was sentenced on June 28, 2022. Midterms didn't happen until November. Soooooo....what else ya got?


they just live to make shite up....
Posted by whatiknowsofar
hm?
Member since Nov 2010
27594 posts
Posted on 1/26/26 at 9:34 am to
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That's the erudite and nuanced response I've come to expect from you.


I'm glad you looked up a word to feel smart.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477244 posts
Posted on 1/26/26 at 9:35 am to
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Only critical of the Trump admin, and in fact seem to admire the democrat response.

Admire? No.

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Your "impartiality" is noted.


Why do you want the DEMs to win? Because MN is giving the DEMs a big victory.

I do not want the DEMs to win. I'm critical of strategies and actions that help them.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 1/26/26 at 9:38 am to
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I do not want the DEMs to win. I'm critical of strategies and actions that help them.


Ok. That's fine. I never said you did.

What I did say is that you have yet to make critical remarks, of any kind, of how Walz and Frey have responded to this situation, or if their response (or lack of a response) has contributed to the situation at hand.

Only the Trump administration.

I mean if you think Walz and Frey are doing nothing wrong with what they've been doing and saying, just say so. Just stop with the aloof "I'm just an impartial observer" bullshite.

I've been giving whatiknowsofar shite this entire thread, but hell at least he's consistent and I know where he stands.


This post was edited on 1/26/26 at 9:40 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 1/26/26 at 9:43 am to
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What I did say is that you have yet to make critical remarks, of any kind, of how Walz and Frey h

I'm not much for virtue signaling or worthless whataboutism.

The fetishizing over whataboutism is so interesting.

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Only the Trump administration.


Because he's acting in a way that's giving the DEMs the W.

I don't want the DEMs to have a W

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I mean if you think Walz and Frey are doing nothing wrong with what they've been doing and saying, just say so. Just stop with the aloof "I'm just an impartial observer" bullshite.

It's completely irrelevant and wasteful.

Why divert focus and attention from the actual issues?

Virtue signaling is for the emotional types.

What does blaming them and engaging in whataboutism do, exactly? Other than emotional reactions, nothing.
This post was edited on 1/26/26 at 9:44 am
Posted by MorbidTheClown
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Posted on 1/26/26 at 9:45 am to
Posted by pankReb
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Posted on 1/26/26 at 9:45 am to
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It's completely irrelevant and wasteful.

Why divert focus and attention from the actual issues?



actually State and Local politics are HUGE issue with this. ICE is in no way shape or form an agency responsible for crowd control. Waltz, Fray, and the Police Chief have encouraged violence against ICE instead of dispatching local authorities to prevent shite like this and Good's dipshittery from happening.
Posted by pankReb
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Posted on 1/26/26 at 9:46 am to
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHHHAHHAH



That honestly deserves it's own thread.
This post was edited on 1/26/26 at 9:47 am
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 1/26/26 at 9:48 am to
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I don't want the DEMs to have a W



Earlier this morning you suggested that ICE retreat from MN because of the clashing. That would be a massive, emboldening win for the lunatics and leftists.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
46208 posts
Posted on 1/26/26 at 9:48 am to
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Why divert focus and attention from the actual issues?


The issue is how things are being handled in Minneapolis. The actions of both sides led to Pretti's death. Context and all. Despite what you seem to be arguing, it does in fact matter.

I'm willing to acknowledge this. You, however, seem to not want to.

I simply want to know why. An impartial observer would note the failure that has occurred on both sides of the political isle that directly led to the confrontation between Pretti and CBP.

You have spent multiple posts to go out of your way to not be critical of Walz or Frey in any way, deflecting every single time.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477244 posts
Posted on 1/26/26 at 9:49 am to
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actually State and Local politics are HUGE issue with this.

For the hardcore MAGA types

For the national electorate, that ship has sailed.

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Waltz, Fray, and the Police Chief have encouraged violence against ICE instead of dispatching local authorities to prevent shite like this and Good's dipshittery from happening.

Again, this only resonates within the echo chamber. It's clear this is not resonating nationally. The argument has already lost.
Posted by DarkDrifter
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2011
5728 posts
Posted on 1/26/26 at 9:50 am to
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Terrorist thought it was a good idea to pick up a flashbang before it exploded and won the Darwin Award of the day during yesterday's insurrection


Thats gonna leave a mark
Posted by pankReb
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73099 posts
Posted on 1/26/26 at 9:50 am to
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For the hardcore MAGA types

For the national electorate, that ship has sailed.


I'm not talking about future political elections. I'm talking about THIS situation as it is.

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Again, this only resonates within the echo chamber. It's clear this is not resonating nationally. The argument has already lost.


Because it also isn't be addressed from a national perspective. Their statements need to be played constantly.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477244 posts
Posted on 1/26/26 at 9:50 am to
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Earlier this morning you suggested that ICE retreat from MN because of the clashing.

No. Bad framing.
I said to divert those resources to more productive deportation efforts.

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That would be a massive, emboldening win for the lunatics and leftists.

They've already won, basically. You just haven't realized it or won't for emotional reasons. It's become a quagmire for this reason.
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
19578 posts
Posted on 1/26/26 at 9:51 am to
The screaming of "medic" and the performative flopping... These morons truly think they are in battle.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477244 posts
Posted on 1/26/26 at 9:52 am to
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The issue is how things are being handled in Minneapolis.

The admin has lost this PR battle. It's over.

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Despite what you seem to be arguing, it does in fact matter.

Matter for what purpose, exactly?

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An impartial observer would note the failure that has occurred on both sides of the political isle that directly led to the confrontation between Pretti and CBP.

The confrontation b/c Pretti and the CBP agent is much more isolated than this.

You're extrapolating irrationally.

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