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re: Border Patrol-involved shooting in Minneapolis; person shot was allegedly armed

Posted on 1/25/26 at 1:07 pm to
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
19863 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 1:07 pm to
quote:

Is that picture from the timeframe of the incident?


Yes.


quote:

Looks like he's in the middle of the street in that picture and nowhere near the sidewalk


People move, you moron.
Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
18863 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 1:09 pm to
quote:

Crazy leftist lunatic

That’s the funniest shite I’ve read today.

Can you tell me how many times I’ve offended you?
This post was edited on 1/25/26 at 1:11 pm
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
49554 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 1:09 pm to
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i don't think so either... personally, i think the agent that pulled the trigger was not the 1st officer, nor the one that shouted "gun, gun, gun", nor the one that carried his gun away from the situation after disarming him... it was one of the other 3 officers... one of the 7 did it


Which makes the legal analysis super complicated
Posted by TDTOM
Member since Jan 2021
25961 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 1:10 pm to
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People move, you moron.


. In the video at the beginning, he is literally in the middle of the road directing traffic.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
88249 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 1:10 pm to
It didn’t help that there couldn’t be any crime scene investigation due to the unsafe nature of the area once it happened. Local law enforcement couldn’t get there to protect evidence.
Posted by BCreed1
Alabama
Member since Jan 2024
7042 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 1:11 pm to
Barnes v. Felix:
Supreme Court struck down the "moment-of-threat" rule. Previously, some courts only looked at the exact second a shot was fired or a mask was worn.

The New Standard: Now, courts must look at the "totality of the circumstances" leading up to the event.
Posted by chRxis
None of your fricking business
Member since Feb 2008
28182 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 1:12 pm to
quote:

No, that's not my opinion at all.

ok, so what is your opinion on the matter then... my question was an opportunity for you to explain... so, again, i'm giving you an opportunity to explain it, as you see it

quote:

He was also not carrying his permit, which makes him unlawfully CCW'ing according to local statutes. So he essentially removed his legal authority by his own negligence.

i agree with this... but i do stand on the opinion that had the confrontation never happened, no one, including you and I, would have known Pretti was CCW that day, permit on him at the time or not...

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Wrong for him to CCW AND confront law enforcement in the course of their duties

the "confrontation" came after the LEO pushed the lady... he wasn't there looking for a fight, but the LEOs definitely made sure a fight was brought to him...

it's a shame, all the way around... it really is... we have become so calloused that even something like this just gets boiled down to D vs. R...
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
49554 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 1:12 pm to
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In the video at the beginning, he is literally in the middle of the road directing traffic.


But that doesn’t mean he was actively impeding when he was maced.

It appears from the video that he retreated to the sidewalk for a substantial period of time before the first agent approached the woman.
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
49554 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 1:13 pm to
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Local law enforcement couldn’t get there to protect evidence.


Yeah, well such are the consequences when your state government adopts a policy of lawlessness.
Posted by Classy Doge
Member since Nov 2021
5421 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 1:14 pm to
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and if the LEO doesn't push the woman, he's still alive
Thes low IQ protesters need to stay out of the streets then they wouldn't have to be pushed back like the lady and this guy. It is not their right to block the streets and try to prevent federal agents from doing their job. Get in their way and you can expect to get pushed out of their way. If the clowns in Minneapolis city and Minnesota state government would do their jobs none of this would be happening
This post was edited on 1/25/26 at 1:30 pm
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
481186 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 1:14 pm to
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People move, you moron.


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When does he move from the middle of the street?

Where are the 2 women with the blue on their heads?
Posted by HailToTheChiz
Back in Auburn
Member since Aug 2010
54992 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 1:16 pm to
He was in the street prior to this video. There is video of it.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
481186 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 1:16 pm to
quote:

It is not their right to block the streets


The woman who was pushed was on the sidewalk
Posted by whatiknowsofar
hm?
Member since Nov 2010
28002 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 1:16 pm to
quote:

you post this as if it's relevant whatsoever.


So now being in the street doesnt matter.


You see how easy it is to prove how every talking point you bring up is dumb as shite? Stick to melting over your shitty fb program
Posted by pankReb
Defending National Champs Fan
Member since Mar 2009
73284 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 1:17 pm to
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Listen son, one day you’ll realize that you need to care about your rights and it matters.


Deflecting

quote:

When you move out of your parents house it’ll hit different


Attacking is a form of deflecting.

quote:

Until then, let me know how that boot tastes.


See above.


Should be noted that I never expressed my stance on this subject. I’m just calling out the idiocy of what is being posted here.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
481186 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 1:17 pm to
quote:

He was in the street prior to this video. There is video of it.


Specifically not relevant to my question.

My question

quote:

Is that picture from the timeframe of the incident?


The answer is apparently "No"
Posted by TDTOM
Member since Jan 2021
25961 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 1:17 pm to
quote:

But that doesn’t mean he was actively impeding when he was maced.


Correct. It was the fact that he put himself between the officer and the woman that meant he was impeding. My comment was in reference to the other poster who said people move.

quote:

It appears from the video that he retreated to the sidewalk for a substantial period of time before the first agent approached the woman.


That it does, Edward. That it does, indeed.
Posted by chRxis
None of your fricking business
Member since Feb 2008
28182 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 1:18 pm to
quote:

Which makes the legal analysis super complicated

without question... but i do feel like someone is going to get away with murder here
Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
18863 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 1:19 pm to
quote:

Should be noted that I never expressed my stance on this subject.

Also you
quote:

confronting law enforcement while carrying out operations is absolutely illegal.

fricking idiot.
Posted by HailToTheChiz
Back in Auburn
Member since Aug 2010
54992 posts
Posted on 1/25/26 at 1:19 pm to
quote:

The answer is apparently "No"


Apparently it's not a "no" because you are intentionally being vague about timeframe. The sidewalk is in the background of that photo.

I was responding to your other post about how he was in the street more, even before that photo
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