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re: Border Patrol-involved shooting in Minneapolis; person shot was allegedly armed
Posted on 1/25/26 at 12:49 pm to HouseMom
Posted on 1/25/26 at 12:49 pm to HouseMom
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Family members said Pretti owned a handgun and had a permit to carry a concealed handgun in Minnesota. They said they had never known him to carry it.
This is big piece of the context. Actively and consistently carrying a concealed weapon requires a mindset that Pretti did not exhibit. Did not have his permit on him, put himself in a confrontational situation with law enforcement, chose to escalate the situation....a whole series of bad decisions only he is responsible for. The typical low-info posters here will never consider this though.
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Posted on 1/25/26 at 12:51 pm to TDTOM
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If that step is not taken, he is still alive
and if the LEO doesn't push the woman, he's still alive... you can even extrapolate that even further, with both sides sharing an equal amount of blame...
Posted on 1/25/26 at 12:53 pm to Ingeniero
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Objectively, the first point of escalation and physical contact was the officer unlawfully shoving a lady to the ground.
You seriously need an adult in your household to show you a dictionary if you think that is what "objectively" means. You clowns grasp at any and all straws.
Posted on 1/25/26 at 12:53 pm to Clames
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permit to carry a concealed handgun in Minnesota
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they had never known him to carry it
damn, it's almost like he concealed the fact that he was carrying a handgun...
question, when you conceal carry, do you just randomly announce it anyone, even family?
Posted on 1/25/26 at 12:54 pm to chRxis
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and if the LEO doesn't push the woman,
Seperate interaction that did not involve him. He chose to interject himself into the situation.
Posted on 1/25/26 at 12:54 pm to chRxis
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and if the LEO doesn't push the woman, he's still alive
So Pretti didn't have the emotional maturity not to escalate that situation further? That's your argument? How moronic.
Posted on 1/25/26 at 12:55 pm to Clames
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chose to escalate the situation.
there is not one video, of all the videos out there, that show Pretti as the one that escalated the situation... not one
Posted on 1/25/26 at 12:55 pm to Clames
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You seriously need an adult in your household to show you a dictionary if you think that is what "objectively" means. You clowns grasp at any and all straws.
Here's the Webster definition
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in an objective rather than subjective or biased way : with a basis in observable facts rather than feelings or opinions
Do you have some unreleased video where Pretti made contact first?
Posted on 1/25/26 at 12:55 pm to Clames
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The typical low-info posters here will never consider this though.
I'm personally waiting on Black Insurrectionist to weigh in
Posted on 1/25/26 at 12:55 pm to chRxis
You’re supposed to when being detained. You’re also supposed to carry the permit and ID. While he was legally permitted, he apparently didn’t have those items on him. Which isn’t surprising as most of these agitators are taught not to have ID.
Posted on 1/25/26 at 12:55 pm to Ingeniero
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still don't think we've gotten an answer on how closing the distance to shove down the film lady was part of his duties that day.
Not defending it but you could argue these were two separate instances
Posted on 1/25/26 at 12:56 pm to Clames
You think Pretti escalated the situation?
Goddam dude you are exposing yourself in this thread
Goddam dude you are exposing yourself in this thread
Posted on 1/25/26 at 12:56 pm to Clames
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This is big piece of the context. Actively and consistently carrying a concealed weapon requires a mindset that Pretti did not exhibit. Did not have his permit on him, put himself in a confrontational situation with law enforcement, chose to escalate the situation....a whole series of bad decisions only he is responsible for. The typical low-info posters here will never consider this though.
You should represent the ICE agent in court. Jury will find this very compelling.
This post was edited on 1/25/26 at 12:57 pm
Posted on 1/25/26 at 12:56 pm to NawlinsTiger9
Shouldn’t you be reading some Supreme Court cases right now?
Posted on 1/25/26 at 12:56 pm to chRxis
Why was he pepper sprayed?
Posted on 1/25/26 at 12:57 pm to TDTOM
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Seperate interaction that did not involve him. He chose to interject himself into the situation.
I've been looking for an answer to this and no one seems to be able to give it to me: is there ever a scenario where someone can legally interject to stop an officer's unlawful act?
If Officer Chud speeds over to Cava to pistol whip his no-good cheating whore of a wife and you get between them, he can legally blow your brains out?
Posted on 1/25/26 at 12:57 pm to TDTOM
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He chose to interject himself into the situation.
he instinctually saw a woman get pushed to the ground, and jumped between her and what he saw as her threat... he didn't interject before the push, even though he clearly would have had the opportunity to, yet he didn't, unless you have footage that none of us are privy to...
Posted on 1/25/26 at 12:58 pm to ell_13
quote:The Monster and zyn kicked in for the agent
Why was he pepper sprayed?
Posted on 1/25/26 at 12:58 pm to Ingeniero
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If Officer Chud speeds over to Cava to pistol whip his no-good cheating whore of a wife and you get between them, he can legally blow your brains out?
if this board it to be believed, then yes
Posted on 1/25/26 at 12:59 pm to lsupride87
As good a reason as any
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