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re: Boeing 737 Max - Designed by Clowns

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Posted by OchoDedos
Republic of Texas
Member since Oct 2014
40228 posts
Posted on 1/10/20 at 4:25 pm to
You gotta take these comments with a grain of salt. Boeing has lots of labor issues, and labor is stupid enough to make asinine comments jeopardizing the employment of its members. Boeing machinists in Everett are going to wake up one day and find their jobs have been moved to right to work Kansas, Alabama, and South Carolina.
Posted by Walking the Earth
Member since Feb 2013
17464 posts
Posted on 1/10/20 at 4:29 pm to
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suggested she find a job ipom graduation in something other than engineering.



Was I was the only one that read this as "suggested she find a job in porn..."?
Posted by Legion of Doom
Old Metry
Member since Jan 2018
5776 posts
Posted on 1/10/20 at 4:31 pm to
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Job in porn


Pics?
Posted by AlonsoWDC
Memphis, where it ain't Ten-a-Key
Member since Aug 2014
9387 posts
Posted on 1/10/20 at 5:00 pm to
Boeing - lets costs and bottom lines come before the quality of the product, tries to skirt federal regulations egregiously.

OT - spends entire thread talking about race and diversity.
Posted by USMEagles
Member since Jan 2018
11811 posts
Posted on 1/10/20 at 5:15 pm to
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And yet US pilots don't seem to have a huge issue with them. I think I'd trust the people that have to fly them.


You realize hundreds of people have died in that thing, right? And that the problem is a computer that specifically ignores the pilot's input? If you really think Muh US Pilots would never wreck one of these things, you need to get out more.
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
93541 posts
Posted on 1/10/20 at 5:17 pm to
I take exception to that, perhaps you should get out more.

ETA: see UAL232
This post was edited on 1/10/20 at 5:21 pm
Posted by LSUGrrrl
Frisco, TX
Member since Jul 2007
46437 posts
Posted on 1/10/20 at 5:20 pm to
Why isn’t the FAA getting more heat on this disaster?
Posted by USMEagles
Member since Jan 2018
11811 posts
Posted on 1/10/20 at 5:20 pm to
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I take exception to that, perhaps you should get out more.


I'm not saying US pilots aren't the best. I'm saying, "durr, let's make a plane that works fine as long as the pilots are really, really good" is a terrible decision.

That's the exact opposite of how anything should be designed. The fact that US pilots were apparently able to fly the thing (in the extremely limited time it was allowed to fly) does less than nothing to excuse this crap.
Posted by SEClint
New Orleans, LA/Portland, OR
Member since Nov 2006
49487 posts
Posted on 1/10/20 at 5:21 pm to
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supervised by monkeys,” an employee wrote in 2017.



2 PMs
This post was edited on 1/10/20 at 5:22 pm
Posted by jbgleason
Bailed out of BTR to God's Country
Member since Mar 2012
20405 posts
Posted on 1/10/20 at 5:21 pm to
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And that the problem is a computer that specifically ignores the pilot's input? If you really think Muh US Pilots would never wreck one of these things, you need to get out more.


Well... that computer can be turned off and all the pilot has to do is recognize the situation and disable it. Those foreign pilots fought the stick right into the ground/ocean. A better trained pilot would have recognized and corrected the issue instead of riding it down.
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
93541 posts
Posted on 1/10/20 at 5:22 pm to
See: airbus
Posted by dupergreenie
Member since May 2014
10224 posts
Posted on 1/10/20 at 5:34 pm to
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UAL232


Good example.
Posted by OchoDedos
Republic of Texas
Member since Oct 2014
40228 posts
Posted on 1/10/20 at 5:41 pm to
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that computer can be turned off and all the pilot has to do is recognize the situation and disable it.

The Indonesian Max had an issue on the last leg back to Jakarta the previous night. The CA disengaged the Auto Throttle, AP, trimmed the plane manually, and flew the plane to Jakarta without incident.
This post was edited on 1/10/20 at 5:45 pm
Posted by BHM
Member since Jun 2012
4114 posts
Posted on 1/10/20 at 5:45 pm to
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You gotta take these comments with a grain of salt


Go through all the emails and texts of any large company and you will find similar comments.

Not saying they are not true but I have not seen the monkeys.
Posted by LordSaintly
Member since Dec 2005
43342 posts
Posted on 1/10/20 at 6:39 pm to
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Their focus is own diversity and hiring women and minorities per their own board. Not designing airplanes and rockets that fly.



I’m against racial quotas, but we don’t know for a fact that female and minority incompetence is to blame here, nor do we know that the system was designed by them either.
Posted by Athos
Member since Sep 2016
11878 posts
Posted on 1/10/20 at 7:39 pm to
Boeing went cheap. Instead of designing a new plane, they slapped awkward arse engines on an old model out of Airbus fear. They deserve everything coming to them.
Posted by Mr. Misanthrope
Cloud 8
Member since Nov 2012
6493 posts
Posted on 1/10/20 at 7:57 pm to
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They should make their planes all rubber and change their name to boing.

Surprised this didn't get a whole lotta love. Pointed, clever, and funny.
Posted by Norbert
Member since Oct 2018
3767 posts
Posted on 1/10/20 at 8:04 pm to
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went from a company run by engineers to one run by businessmen


Sounds like medicine. Soon to be run by worse - politicians.
Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
61607 posts
Posted on 1/10/20 at 8:04 pm to
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Horse shite

Every suboptimal hiring decision to “diversify” has to do with this.

They should make their planes all rubber and change their name to boing.





Yeah, b/c hiring a few more people of color is why the the bean counters and execs decided to say frick safety we aren't telling anyone about how this new plane's design sucks arse b/c it will hurt sales. Sure sure sure sure sure. Makes total sense.
This post was edited on 1/10/20 at 8:05 pm
Posted by TDawg1313
WA
Member since Jul 2009
12473 posts
Posted on 1/10/20 at 8:18 pm to
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It went from a company run by engineers to one run by businessmen. You can only cut, squeeze, or outsource so much without it compromising another facet.

This is exactly it. Every decision since the early to mid 2010s revolved around pleasing Wall Street. Their stock soared as a result, but now we are seeing what taking shortcuts does.
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