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re: Bob Dylan Wins Nobel Prize for Literature!

Posted on 10/13/16 at 1:04 pm to
Posted by REG861
Ocelot, Iowa
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 10/13/16 at 1:04 pm to
salman Rushdie seems to think Dylan deserves this but I'm sure you are far more erudite than him. But we get it. You're such an intellectual !
This post was edited on 10/13/16 at 1:06 pm
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
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Posted on 10/13/16 at 1:14 pm to
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can you name 10 Woody Guthrie songs off the top of your head?
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I know that doesn't mean anything
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Hell, people don't know Dylan Thomas as much as they know Dylan and it's where he got his name!
Well, I guess J-Lo and Hannah Montana are shoe-ins for next year's prize, if that's the standard we're using.
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Dylan is a huge Woody Guthrie fan
Bit of an understatement. There would be no Dylan without Guthrie, current popularity notwithstanding.
Posted by REG861
Ocelot, Iowa
Member since Oct 2011
38365 posts
Posted on 10/13/16 at 1:14 pm to
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Mark Knopfler is by far a better lyricist.


Mother of god. I can't even ...
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
66807 posts
Posted on 10/13/16 at 1:38 pm to
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salman Rushdie seems to think


Jags fans of the world unite!
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 10/13/16 at 2:10 pm to
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Mark Knopfler is by far a better lyricist.



"This is fricking idiotic."

-Mark Knopfler
Posted by redandright
Member since Jun 2011
9796 posts
Posted on 10/13/16 at 2:34 pm to
Sorry guys but he doesn't deserve such an accolade.
I enjoy some of his stuff but he's not in the class of any of the winners I mentioned.
Truman Capote, Somerset Maugham, Evelyn Waugh, e. e. Cummings are just a few of the hundreds more deserving who never received this award. Dylan is not in their class.

Sorry if I came across as arrogant or condescending. I was just trolling a little there.

The Nobels have been politicized -in literature and the Peace Prize anyway, and this is just another example.
Posted by redandright
Member since Jun 2011
9796 posts
Posted on 10/13/16 at 2:35 pm to
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"This is fricking idiotic". Mark Knopfler

This post was edited on 10/13/16 at 2:38 pm
Posted by UPT
NOLA
Member since May 2009
6068 posts
Posted on 10/13/16 at 2:51 pm to
This is Nobel worthy for anyone.

They’re selling postcards of the hanging
They’re painting the passports brown
The beauty parlor is filled with sailors
The circus is in town
Here comes the blind commissioner
They’ve got him in a trance
One hand is tied to the tight-rope walker
The other is in his pants
And the riot squad they’re restless
They need somewhere to go
As Lady and I look out tonight
From Desolation Row

Cinderella, she seems so easy
“It takes one to know one,” she smiles
And puts her hands in her back pockets
Bette Davis style
And in comes Romeo, he’s moaning
“You Belong to Me I Believe”
And someone says, “You’re in the wrong place my friend
You better leave”
And the only sound that’s left
After the ambulances go
Is Cinderella sweeping up
On Desolation Row

Now the moon is almost hidden
The stars are beginning to hide
The fortune-telling lady
Has even taken all her things inside
All except for Cain and Abel
And the hunchback of Notre Dame
Everybody is making love
Or else expecting rain
And the Good Samaritan, he’s dressing
He’s getting ready for the show
He’s going to the carnival tonight
On Desolation Row

Now Ophelia, she’s ’neath the window
For her I feel so afraid
On her twenty-second birthday
She already is an old maid
To her, death is quite romantic
She wears an iron vest
Her profession’s her religion
Her sin is her lifelessness
And though her eyes are fixed upon
Noah’s great rainbow
She spends her time peeking
Into Desolation Row

Einstein, disguised as Robin Hood
With his memories in a trunk
Passed this way an hour ago
With his friend, a jealous monk
He looked so immaculately frightful
As he bummed a cigarette
Then he went off sniffing drainpipes
And reciting the alphabet
Now you would not think to look at him
But he was famous long ago
For playing the electric violin
On Desolation Row

Dr. Filth, he keeps his world
Inside of a leather cup
But all his sexless patients
They’re trying to blow it up
Now his nurse, some local loser
She’s in charge of the cyanide hole
And she also keeps the cards that read
“Have Mercy on His Soul”
They all play on pennywhistles
You can hear them blow
If you lean your head out far enough
From Desolation Row

Across the street they’ve nailed the curtains
They’re getting ready for the feast
The Phantom of the Opera
A perfect image of a priest
They’re spoonfeeding Casanova
To get him to feel more assured
Then they’ll kill him with self-confidence
After poisoning him with words
And the Phantom’s shouting to skinny girls
“Get Outa Here If You Don’t Know
Casanova is just being punished for going
To Desolation Row”

Now at midnight all the agents
And the superhuman crew
Come out and round up everyone
That knows more than they do
Then they bring them to the factory
Where the heart-attack machine
Is strapped across their shoulders
And then the kerosene
Is brought down from the castles
By insurance men who go
Check to see that nobody is escaping
To Desolation Row

Praise be to Nero’s Neptune
The Titanic sails at dawn
And everybody’s shouting
“Which Side Are You On?”
And Ezra Pound and T. S. Eliot
Fighting in the captain’s tower
While calypso singers laugh at them
And fishermen hold flowers
Between the windows of the sea
Where lovely mermaids flow
And nobody has to think too much
About Desolation Row

Yes, I received your letter yesterday
(About the time the doorknob broke)
When you asked how I was doing
Was that some kind of joke?
All these people that you mention
Yes, I know them, they’re quite lame
I had to rearrange their faces
And give them all another name
Right now I can’t read too good
Don’t send me no more letters, no
Not unless you mail them
From Desolation Row
Posted by UPT
NOLA
Member since May 2009
6068 posts
Posted on 10/13/16 at 2:53 pm to
And this:

Ain’t it just like the night to play tricks when you’re tryin' to be so quiet?
We sit here stranded, though we’re all doin’ our best to deny it
And Louise holds a handful of rain, temptin’ you to defy it
Lights flicker from the opposite loft
In this room the heat pipes just cough
The country music station plays soft
But there’s nothing, really nothing to turn off
Just Louise and her lover so entwined
And these visions of Johanna that conquer my mind

In the empty lot where the ladies play blindman’s bluff with the key chain
And the all-night girls they whisper of escapades out on the “D” train
We can hear the night watchman click his flashlight
Ask himself if it’s him or them that’s really insane
Louise, she’s all right, she’s just near
She’s delicate and seems like the mirror
But she just makes it all too concise and too clear
That Johanna’s not here
The ghost of ’lectricity howls in the bones of her face
Where these visions of Johanna have now taken my place

Now, little boy lost, he takes himself so seriously
He brags of his misery, he likes to live dangerously
And when bringing her name up
He speaks of a farewell kiss to me
He’s sure got a lotta gall to be so useless and all
Muttering small talk at the wall while I’m in the hall
How can I explain?
Oh, it’s so hard to get on
And these visions of Johanna, they kept me up past the dawn

Inside the museums, Infinity goes up on trial
Voices echo this is what salvation must be like after a while
But Mona Lisa musta had the highway blues
You can tell by the way she smiles
See the primitive wallflower freeze
When the jelly-faced women all sneeze
Hear the one with the mustache say, “Jeeze
I can’t find my knees”
Oh, jewels and binoculars hang from the head of the mule
But these visions of Johanna, they make it all seem so cruel

The peddler now speaks to the countess who’s pretending to care for him
Sayin’, “Name me someone that’s not a parasite and I’ll go out and say a prayer for him”
But like Louise always says
“Ya can’t look at much, can ya man?”
As she, herself, prepares for him
And Madonna, she still has not showed
We see this empty cage now corrode
Where her cape of the stage once had flowed
The fiddler, he now steps to the road
He writes ev’rything’s been returned which was owed
On the back of the fish truck that loads
While my conscience explodes
The harmonicas play the skeleton keys and the rain
And these visions of Johanna are now all that remain
Posted by UPT
NOLA
Member since May 2009
6068 posts
Posted on 10/13/16 at 2:54 pm to
And one more...

Oh, where have you been, my blue-eyed son?
Oh, where have you been, my darling young one?
I’ve stumbled on the side of twelve misty mountains
I’ve walked and I’ve crawled on six crooked highways
I’ve stepped in the middle of seven sad forests
I’ve been out in front of a dozen dead oceans
I’ve been ten thousand miles in the mouth of a graveyard
And it’s a hard, and it’s a hard, it’s a hard, and it’s a hard
And it’s a hard rain’s a-gonna fall

Oh, what did you see, my blue-eyed son?
Oh, what did you see, my darling young one?
I saw a newborn baby with wild wolves all around it
I saw a highway of diamonds with nobody on it
I saw a black branch with blood that kept drippin’
I saw a room full of men with their hammers a-bleedin’
I saw a white ladder all covered with water
I saw ten thousand talkers whose tongues were all broken
I saw guns and sharp swords in the hands of young children
And it’s a hard, and it’s a hard, it’s a hard, it’s a hard
And it’s a hard rain’s a-gonna fall

And what did you hear, my blue-eyed son?
And what did you hear, my darling young one?
I heard the sound of a thunder, it roared out a warnin’
Heard the roar of a wave that could drown the whole world
Heard one hundred drummers whose hands were a-blazin’
Heard ten thousand whisperin’ and nobody listenin’
Heard one person starve, I heard many people laughin’
Heard the song of a poet who died in the gutter
Heard the sound of a clown who cried in the alley
And it’s a hard, and it’s a hard, it’s a hard, it’s a hard
And it’s a hard rain’s a-gonna fall

Oh, who did you meet, my blue-eyed son?
Who did you meet, my darling young one?
I met a young child beside a dead pony
I met a white man who walked a black dog
I met a young woman whose body was burning
I met a young girl, she gave me a rainbow
I met one man who was wounded in love
I met another man who was wounded with hatred
And it’s a hard, it’s a hard, it’s a hard, it’s a hard
It’s a hard rain’s a-gonna fall

Oh, what’ll you do now, my blue-eyed son?
Oh, what’ll you do now, my darling young one?
I’m a-goin’ back out ’fore the rain starts a-fallin’
I’ll walk to the depths of the deepest black forest
Where the people are many and their hands are all empty
Where the pellets of poison are flooding their waters
Where the home in the valley meets the damp dirty prison
Where the executioner’s face is always well hidden
Where hunger is ugly, where souls are forgotten
Where black is the color, where none is the number
And I’ll tell it and think it and speak it and breathe it
And reflect it from the mountain so all souls can see it
Then I’ll stand on the ocean until I start sinkin’
But I’ll know my song well before I start singin’
And it’s a hard, it’s a hard, it’s a hard, it’s a hard
It’s a hard rain’s a-gonna fall
Posted by JeanPierre
A brave, new world
Member since Jan 2015
300 posts
Posted on 10/13/16 at 2:58 pm to
UPT gets it.
Posted by KG6
Member since Aug 2009
10920 posts
Posted on 10/13/16 at 3:01 pm to
quote:

See the little fa**ot with the earring and the make up
Yeah buddy that's his own hair
That little fa**ot got his own jet airplane
That little fa**ot he's a millionaire

-Mark Knopfler


I see your point...
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
66807 posts
Posted on 10/13/16 at 4:24 pm to
Is that Dylan or are those some of the ones he stole from Ramblin Jack Elliott? Elliot's son has always made the point that Dylan hadn't done much of anything until after he hung out with his father in his dying days. Of course, Elliot publicly owed his career to Guthrie as well.

And to this day, Ritchie Havens claims Dylan stole All Along the Watchtower from him.

That's how they'll do ya, I swear.
Posted by Kafka
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Member since Jul 2007
158988 posts
Posted on 10/13/16 at 6:44 pm to
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congrats to #BobDylan ... #LeonardCohen is next...



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Posted by Hugo Stiglitz
Member since Oct 2010
72937 posts
Posted on 10/13/16 at 7:32 pm to
It's like she's blowing in the wind
Posted by Kafka
I am the moral conscience of TD
Member since Jul 2007
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Posted on 10/13/16 at 8:53 pm to
Posted by Dick Leverage
In The HizHouse
Member since Nov 2013
9000 posts
Posted on 10/13/16 at 9:35 pm to
All of those poems suck. They should have given it to Kim Carnes before that nasal little prick. At least Bette Davis Eyes gives you the feels.
Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
Member since Nov 2012
36799 posts
Posted on 10/13/16 at 9:35 pm to
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Drifted down to New Orleans, lucky not to be destroyed, where he got him a job on a fishing boat docked outside Delacroix."



This is dumb because it doesn't even rhyme unless you're a dumbass yankee
Posted by Bullfrog
Running Through the Wet Grass
Member since Jul 2010
61775 posts
Posted on 10/13/16 at 9:39 pm to
I thought it was lucky to be employed.

Which sorta rhymes with Delacroix.
Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
Member since Nov 2012
36799 posts
Posted on 10/13/16 at 9:46 pm to
Bayou people pronounce dat Della-crow baw
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