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re: Bloomberg Sources: California Considers Paying Valero to Continue Operating Refinery

Posted on 9/9/25 at 4:52 pm to
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Posted on 9/9/25 at 4:52 pm to
A contractor showed up to a valero plant in an ev a few years ago. He was asked to leave the site and they stopped doing business with that company.
Posted by N2cars
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Posted on 9/9/25 at 4:53 pm to
So glad CVX told em GFY.
Posted by SmackoverHawg
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 9/9/25 at 4:54 pm to
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Valero doesn’t give two shits about appeasing folks who are ideologically opposed to their existence as a company.

Makes me proud to be a shareholder.
Posted by ragincajun03
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 9/9/25 at 5:06 pm to
Would love for my kid to be able to get a job at one of their refineries upon graduation this Spring.
Posted by TheHarahanian
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Member since May 2017
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Posted on 9/9/25 at 5:24 pm to
If I’m representing Valero, I agree under the condition that the state is responsible for ensuring that the refinery meets all California environmental regs, not Valero. All Valero has to do is make product.

And every day that the government has the refinery shut down for their BS they pay another XX million.
This post was edited on 9/9/25 at 5:26 pm
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
43726 posts
Posted on 9/9/25 at 5:27 pm to
Valero should refuse and close the refinery. Then California republicans should start a state wide advertising campaign about how the state is paying for sex change operations for illegal immigrants with mental illness while Californians are getting raped at the pump.
Posted by Butterfinger1
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 9/9/25 at 7:06 pm to
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A contractor showed up to a valero plant in an ev a few years ago. He was asked to leave the site and they stopped doing business with that company.


What site? The St. Charles Refinery had an Engineer that drove an EV and Management never said a thing.
Posted by Floyd Dawg
Silver Creek, GA
Member since Jul 2018
4841 posts
Posted on 9/9/25 at 7:14 pm to
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Step 1: Create problem
Step 2: "Create a solution"
Step 3: ????
Step 4: Profit


Craig Ferguson had a great bit about this. He said Hollywood had a whole gaggle of people who create problems for celebrities, then solve them and the celebs pay them for it.
Posted by Macavity92
Member since Dec 2004
6218 posts
Posted on 9/9/25 at 7:20 pm to
I would press for exemptions from certain regs for 3-5 years. But in no circumstance would I let liberal state government employees actually oversee (as opposed to simply regulating) the plant. It would be a tragedy.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 9/9/25 at 8:32 pm to
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The St. Charles Refinery had an Engineer that drove an EV and Management never said a thing.


Damn they’ve gone soft over there.

The one I’m thinking of was in memphis iirc.
Posted by RanchoLaPuerto
Jena
Member since Aug 2023
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Posted on 9/9/25 at 8:41 pm to
They are also trying to repeal the Jones Act in Congress so that they can get direct shipments from the Gulf Coast refineries.
Posted by tigerfan 64
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Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 9/9/25 at 8:42 pm to
Stock jumped bigly today.
Posted by StansberryRules
Member since Aug 2024
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Posted on 9/9/25 at 8:44 pm to
I"m assuming Californians travel right?

When they visit other states and they see gas prices at $2.50 and go home and it's $6.50, you think they'd notice that right?

Millions of people in California regularly vote to make just about everything in their lives substantially more expensive than it has to be and then they complain about the cost of living.
Posted by tigerfan 64
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Member since Sep 2016
6075 posts
Posted on 9/9/25 at 8:46 pm to
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Hell no, Valero should tell them to eat shite and make these fools suffer due to their own poor decisions.

California loves to villanize the oil producers and refiners, but stick their hands out to grab those taxes.
Posted by RanchoLaPuerto
Jena
Member since Aug 2023
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Posted on 9/9/25 at 8:52 pm to
The state gave the California Energy Commission has the authority to:

—Insist on minimum inventory levels in refineries

—Control the timing of turnarounds

I think Valero says FU to California regardless. They are probably just grin fricking them now.
Posted by RanchoLaPuerto
Jena
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Posted on 9/9/25 at 8:52 pm to
Double post
This post was edited on 9/9/25 at 9:01 pm
Posted by RanchoLaPuerto
Jena
Member since Aug 2023
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Posted on 9/9/25 at 8:56 pm to
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$6.50


That would be low unless something changes. Between Phillips and Valero, they are losing 20% of refining capacity.

There are no pipelines into California.

You can’t ship refined products from Texas to California by water because of the Jones Act.

I’d say it goes to 8 or 9.
Posted by TigerOnThe Hill
Springhill, LA
Member since Sep 2008
7393 posts
Posted on 9/9/25 at 9:34 pm to
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When they visit other states and they see gas prices at $2.50 and go home and it's $6.50, you think they'd notice that right?

They don't notice since it's CA and they're all driving electric vehicles.
Posted by SaintsTiger
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Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 9/9/25 at 9:48 pm to
Whatever the amount California pays is, the same amount should be reduced from what the Federal government would normally pay them.

Enough of this bs
Posted by RanchoLaPuerto
Jena
Member since Aug 2023
1734 posts
Posted on 9/9/25 at 10:33 pm to
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They don't notice since it's CA and they're all driving electric vehicles.


That’s one reason why refiners are pulling out. You can’t sell the California blend anywhere else, and demand in California is flat or declining.

Who’s going to invest millions in a refinery in that market?

California fricked the dog by not considering the unintended consequences of pushing everyone to electric. They just assumed there would be adequate gasoline supplies in the meantime. The market said “not so fast.”
This post was edited on 9/9/25 at 10:34 pm
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