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re: Blacks and Hispanics who failed teacher certification test in NY awarded $1.8B

Posted on 7/15/23 at 5:12 pm to
Posted by Salviati
Member since Apr 2006
7152 posts
Posted on 7/15/23 at 5:12 pm to
quote:

Yet, you’re basically defending the validity of this lawsuit?
The following facts were proven, not just alleged, but proven:

(1) The city required people to pass the test to receive a teaching license.
(2) The test failed to evaluate whether a test taker would be a competent teacher. The test was not even shown to be related to the job of teaching.
(3) The test had an UNLAWFUL disparate impact on African-American and Latino people who took the test.

Sounds like a valid lawsuit to me.
Posted by Cracker
in a box
Member since Nov 2009
19087 posts
Posted on 7/15/23 at 5:15 pm to
They have been told they are oppressed by the same people who have been teaching they are oppressed. Affirmative action been around since early 60s
Posted by Salviati
Member since Apr 2006
7152 posts
Posted on 7/15/23 at 5:16 pm to
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hey didn't know the subject matter, period. Whether a larger amount of Blacks or Hispanics didn't know the subject matter, compared to the number of Whites that didn't, is immaterial. Black, White, or Hispanic, they were either proficient in the subject matter or not. The proficiency of teachers in the subject matter has a direct impact on their ability to teach.
Ummmmm . . . no . . .

The following facts were proven, not just alleged, but proven:

The test failed to evaluate whether a test taker would be a competent teacher. The test was not even shown to be related to the job of teaching.

The test had an UNLAWFUL disparate impact on African-American and Latino people who took the test.
Posted by SirWinston
PNW
Member since Jul 2014
100648 posts
Posted on 7/15/23 at 5:17 pm to
Left wing attorneys - destroying America since the 1940s!
This post was edited on 7/15/23 at 5:19 pm
Posted by liz18lsu
Naples, FL
Member since Feb 2009
17898 posts
Posted on 7/15/23 at 5:19 pm to
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The test had an UNLAWFUL disparate impact on African-American and Latino people who took the test.


Please explain this to me. How does a standardized test discriminate?
Posted by Salviati
Member since Apr 2006
7152 posts
Posted on 7/15/23 at 5:20 pm to
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You sound like a left wing cuck to me
Well, okay.

I think the "teachable moment" has passed.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
135811 posts
Posted on 7/15/23 at 5:22 pm to
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(3) The test had an UNLAWFUL disparate impact on African-American and Latino people who took the test


And how is that possible? Every person taking every test has a unique background to themselves and has the same chance to pass or fail. Why would people who pass a test be punished while those failing are rewarded?
Posted by High C
viewing the fall....
Member since Nov 2012
59378 posts
Posted on 7/15/23 at 5:22 pm to
quote:

The following facts were proven, not just alleged, but proven:
(1) The city required people to pass the test to receive a teaching license.
(2) The test failed to evaluate whether a test taker would be a competent teacher. The test was not even shown to be related to the job of teaching.
(3) The test had an UNLAWFUL disparate impact on African-American and Latino people who took the test.


I would then assert that the law is much more flawed than the test was.
Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
56523 posts
Posted on 7/15/23 at 5:22 pm to
quote:

How does a standardized test discriminate?


Take a look at Griggs v Duke Power and weep.
Posted by yakster
Member since Mar 2021
3511 posts
Posted on 7/15/23 at 5:24 pm to
But Joe Biden said poor kids are as smart as white kids! Aren’t poor black teachers as smart as white teachers?
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
85663 posts
Posted on 7/15/23 at 5:27 pm to
quote:

Never pretend like equal is ever, ever the goal.


I found this out a long time ago by just being short.

shite ain’t equal but nobody owes me anything.

I wanted to be the white TE that played for the patriots. Tough shite.
Posted by Eighteen
Member since Dec 2006
36900 posts
Posted on 7/15/23 at 5:27 pm to
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3) The test had an UNLAWFUL disparate impact on African-American and Latino people who took the test.


Why only those two races? You say proven, but I want to know the specifics of what was asked if Latino and Blacks that wasn’t asked of White, Asians, Indians, Native Americans, Pacific Islanders, etc.

Singling out two ethnicities is also just wild. Is black African American capital B “Black”? Did Kenyans who didn’t pass get paid out? South Africans?

Hispanic…I assume doesn’t count Spain? Central America? South America? Cubans? Puerto Ricans?

What about mixed races? Do you have to be minimum 50%? What’s the threshold?

If a test is prove to have a “desperate impact” on lower IQ individuals…isn’t that…the point…of a test?

Are they singling out those two ethnicities as lower IQ? Yikes
This post was edited on 7/15/23 at 5:31 pm
Posted by brass2mouth
NOLA
Member since Jul 2007
20424 posts
Posted on 7/15/23 at 5:29 pm to
I will never understand how a fricking test can be discriminatory.
Posted by High C
viewing the fall....
Member since Nov 2012
59378 posts
Posted on 7/15/23 at 5:31 pm to
quote:

I think the "teachable moment" has passed.


The “teachable moment” that you’re implying contains the very reason that I decided against law school as a sophomore undergrad.
Posted by Downeast12
Member since Jun 2022
896 posts
Posted on 7/15/23 at 5:38 pm to
What do the blacks and Hispanics that passed the test get?

God this shite is stupid.
Posted by High C
viewing the fall....
Member since Nov 2012
59378 posts
Posted on 7/15/23 at 5:41 pm to
quote:

I will never understand how a fricking test can be discriminatory.


There was a question about Andy Warhol. He’s white. UNLAWFUL
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
78026 posts
Posted on 7/15/23 at 5:45 pm to
quote:

The following facts were proven, not just alleged, but proven
One judge made this decision. That's nothing proven, that's an opinion.
Posted by jnethe1
Pearland
Member since Dec 2012
17018 posts
Posted on 7/15/23 at 5:48 pm to
They are too stupid and incompetent in every way. So we must pay them for their failures in order to keep them from dealing with their ineptitude.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
119729 posts
Posted on 7/15/23 at 5:51 pm to
Are you an attorney? You don’t seem to understand the concept of a judicial opinion. Perhaps you need a settlement for your stupidity as well?
Posted by Deplorableinohio
Member since Dec 2018
7164 posts
Posted on 7/15/23 at 5:54 pm to
This is the beginning of reparations.
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