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Black people are less likely to be shot by cops (research inside)
Posted on 5/31/20 at 9:13 am
Posted on 5/31/20 at 9:13 am
When you just look at population level statistics it’s easy to say a higher percentage of black people are shot. When you control for variables you get a very different picture.
Harvard study - Fryer
Michigan State Research
Harvard study - Fryer
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I find, after controlling for suspect demographics, officer demographics, encounter characteristics, suspect weapon and year fixed effects, that blacks are 27.4 percent less likely to be shot at by police relative to non-black, non-Hispanics.
Michigan State Research
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race-specific violent crime rates strongly related to the race of the citizen shot. The greater number of crimes committed by Whites in a county, the more likely the person shot was White. The greater number of crimes committed by Blacks in a county, the more likely the person shot was Black citizen. And the greater number of crimes committed by Hispanics in a county, the more likely the person shot was Hispanic.
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Posted on 5/31/20 at 9:14 am to WaWaWeeWa
They’re quicker.
Posted on 5/31/20 at 9:17 am to WaWaWeeWa
liberals are using blacks to create chaos. simple as that. cops suck but it's not a race issue.
Posted on 5/31/20 at 9:18 am to WaWaWeeWa
“Stats that are made up by white men”.
This would be the response from mist SJW’s.
This would be the response from mist SJW’s.
Posted on 5/31/20 at 9:20 am to WaWaWeeWa
But who is more likely to get a knee to the throat?
Seriously, does this research include shooting that were not a threat to police? I am not trying to be a smart arse, I am being serious.
I think the situation in which they shoot someone matters not to mention you have to account for other ways someone dies at the hands of police.
Seriously, does this research include shooting that were not a threat to police? I am not trying to be a smart arse, I am being serious.
I think the situation in which they shoot someone matters not to mention you have to account for other ways someone dies at the hands of police.
Posted on 5/31/20 at 9:23 am to WaWaWeeWa
I came to this conclusion years ago when looking at stats. Probably made a thread about it with my own original research.
It only makes logical sense that crime leads to police interaction. That increases the chances that the end result is a police killing.
Measuring by population only is simple-minded. Crime is the driver, not population.
It only makes logical sense that crime leads to police interaction. That increases the chances that the end result is a police killing.
Measuring by population only is simple-minded. Crime is the driver, not population.
This post was edited on 5/31/20 at 9:24 am
Posted on 5/31/20 at 9:23 am to OweO
quote:so you post these long arse OPs all the fricking time, yet can't read?
I think the situation in which they shoot someone matters not to mention you have to account for other ways someone dies at the hands of police.
quote:
I find, after controlling for suspect demographics, officer demographics, encounter characteristics
Posted on 5/31/20 at 9:29 am to WaWaWeeWa
There are non stats or studies that matter here. There is a group at work here that are trying to divide this country any way they can. Covid did not get the job done for them so they are ramping up their efforts. These people causing these protests to turn destructive and violent are not just local people coming out of their houses. There are hundreds of paid/ trained agitators going in these cities in a coordinated effort to stoke the violence bc they know that if they start the ball rolling the stupid local people will follow. Look at these crowds, most on the front line stirring things up look like they are dressed as professional rioters, all black clothing, back packs, bandanas over their face etc.
Posted on 5/31/20 at 9:31 am to WaWaWeeWa
quote:
race-specific violent crime rates strongly related to the race of the citizen shot. The greater number of crimes committed by Whites in a county, the more likely the person shot was White. The greater number of crimes committed by Blacks in a county, the more likely the person shot was Black citizen. And the greater number of crimes committed by Hispanics in a county, the more likely the person shot was Hispanic.
Well no shite?
Posted on 5/31/20 at 9:33 am to WaWaWeeWa
I read a similar article. Most police killings happen within the same race.
This is from the second link.
This is from the second link.
quote:
Overall, officer demographics such as sex and experience were not related to racial disparities in fatal shoot-ings. Although officer race was related to racial disparities, the fact that Black and Hispanic civilians were more likely to be shot by same-race officers was largely explained by similarities between officer and county demographics. Because racial dis-parities in FOIS do not vary based on officer race, hiring more diverse officers may not reduce racial disparities in FOIS. This is not to say that increasing officer diversity is without merit, as increasing officer diversity may broaden understanding of diverse communities and increase trust in law enforcement. However,these data suggest that increasing racial diversity would not meaningfully reduce racial disparity in fatal shootings (32).
This post was edited on 5/31/20 at 9:49 am
Posted on 5/31/20 at 9:34 am to WaWaWeeWa
Just what exactly are you trying to convince this echo chamber of a website of?
Posted on 5/31/20 at 9:37 am to castorinho
I've heard that Chauvin and Floyd knew each other from working security detail together. Bizarre.
I'm sure there is a lot more to the story that hasn't come out yet, but one of the things we do best in this country (thanks in large part to mainstream media) is rush to judgement.
I'm sure there is a lot more to the story that hasn't come out yet, but one of the things we do best in this country (thanks in large part to mainstream media) is rush to judgement.
Posted on 5/31/20 at 9:39 am to SoloTiger
I think the club owner said Chauvin worked security there for 17 years and Floyd worked there in a different capacity for less than a year. He said it’s very possible they didn’t even know each other.
Posted on 5/31/20 at 9:45 am to PrimeTime Money
One statistic that probably sums it up best...
As a percentage of murders of a specific race:
12% of all murders of white people are due to police
7% of all murders of black people are due to police
If we use murder as the indicator of violence here we see that per murder less black people will be killed by the police.
I use murder because it’s a very hard statistic to manipulate or misinterpret
As a percentage of murders of a specific race:
12% of all murders of white people are due to police
7% of all murders of black people are due to police
If we use murder as the indicator of violence here we see that per murder less black people will be killed by the police.
I use murder because it’s a very hard statistic to manipulate or misinterpret
Posted on 5/31/20 at 9:47 am to 13SaintTiger
quote:
Just what exactly are you trying to convince this echo chamber of a website of?
There’s about 30% downvotes already
Maybe it’s not as much of an echo chamber as you think.
But no one has offered any argument to dispute these findings.
Posted on 5/31/20 at 9:49 am to WaWaWeeWa
quote:
race-specific violent crime rates strongly related to the race of the citizen shot. The greater number of crimes committed by Whites in a county, the more likely the person shot was White. The greater number of crimes committed by Blacks in a county, the more likely the person shot was Black citizen. And the greater number of crimes committed by Hispanics in a county, the more likely the person shot was Hispanic.
What sort of wizardry is this? It's the most common sense statements I've ever seen in one of these studies... but damn why did it have to be Michigan state
Posted on 5/31/20 at 9:53 am to OweO
quote:Certain cops treat people like shite regardless of race. Seen this happen myself. Some are just power hungry pieces of shite the race really doesn't matter to them
Seriously, does this research include shooting that were not a threat to police? I am not trying to be a smart arse, I am being serious.
Posted on 5/31/20 at 9:53 am to WaWaWeeWa
quote:
Maybe it’s not as much of an echo chamber as you think.
Are you choosing to not read the threads and posts? You can’t be this obtuse
Posted on 5/31/20 at 9:57 am to 13SaintTiger
quote:
Are you choosing to not read the threads and posts? You can’t be this obtuse
Do you have anything constructive to add to the conversation?
I’m open to changing my mind if there is evidence.
This post was edited on 5/31/20 at 10:02 am
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