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re: Bill Nye Debates Ken Ham
Posted on 2/5/14 at 12:47 pm to Korkstand
Posted on 2/5/14 at 12:47 pm to Korkstand
Good questions. My belief is that the pre-cursors to modern man were not merely trial and error prototypes. They evolved just as he intended and were not "man and woman" or......human. They were species of fauna that most closely resemble humans in design but not human. He created humans in "his" image. Now whether that means to look like him or simply to enjoy a much enhanced intelligence level than all other previous fauna can't be known. But he created us to in turn become "creators" of mind blowing things and to have a conscious. Not nearly at his level but.....in his image. In Hebrews, it is written that we were created in "their" image meaning of course that all heavenly celestial creations were created long before humans and it goes on to imply that we are beneath these heavenly creations in regards to being in "his" image. They were created in his image long before humans and share a greater likeness to the creator than we.
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Posted on 2/5/14 at 12:47 pm to BigEdLSU
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But I have seen God take a hopeless marriage and restore it. I have seen God give my son a second chance before he died.
Here's where I'm going to bow out. A week or so ago in a discussion you felt the need to drop this one me in a vague way...that if I lost a child or something to that effect. This isn't an intellectual issue for you, it's emotional. You can't reason a person out a position they did not reason themselves into. I see no point in going forward down this road with you on this topic.
I'm sorry about your son. As a father of two boys I can only imagine how tough that would be.
Posted on 2/5/14 at 12:49 pm to GeauxTigerTM
A lot of dogma in this thread being presented as otherwise.
Posted on 2/5/14 at 12:51 pm to Lokistale
Hebrew should be viewed as the official language of the bible IMO for scientific debate.
For personal consumption, the hundreds of translations are a blessing
For personal consumption, the hundreds of translations are a blessing
Posted on 2/5/14 at 12:52 pm to BigEdLSU
quote:And I have seen many marriages fall apart, including very strong Christian ones. Where's the miracle?
But I have seen God take a hopeless marriage and restore it.
quote:The same son who is a beast of a lil' dude? Can I ask what happened? And, not to be insensitive, but were doctors involved in his second chance?
I have seen God give my son a second chance before he died.
Posted on 2/5/14 at 12:54 pm to Korkstand
I just would love to know one thing:
What makes Christianity right? Currently there are what, 8 major religions? All throughout time there have been thousands of religions. What makes Christianity right, but say... Paganism wrong? Or, why is Roman or Greek mythology any crazier than Christianity's crazy stories?
The answer is it's no different, imo.
What makes Christianity right? Currently there are what, 8 major religions? All throughout time there have been thousands of religions. What makes Christianity right, but say... Paganism wrong? Or, why is Roman or Greek mythology any crazier than Christianity's crazy stories?
The answer is it's no different, imo.
Posted on 2/5/14 at 12:55 pm to GeauxTigerTM
It's ok. I was just trying to convey that having faith doesn't mean you're about to be a high roller and have events on this world go perfectly.
The guy with the first post on this page worded my feelings on evolution really well..
The guy with the first post on this page worded my feelings on evolution really well..
This post was edited on 2/5/14 at 12:57 pm
Posted on 2/5/14 at 12:57 pm to Korkstand
I have more than one child in my house 
One just passed. One is a really good athlete and I don't want to talk about him on td.
One just passed. One is a really good athlete and I don't want to talk about him on td.
This post was edited on 2/5/14 at 1:00 pm
Posted on 2/5/14 at 12:59 pm to BigEdLSU
quote:Be fruitful and multiply
I have more than one child in my house
Posted on 2/5/14 at 1:01 pm to BigEdLSU
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Hebrew should be viewed as the official language of the bible IMO for scientific debate. For personal consumption, the hundreds of translations are a blessing
Not a blessing if these translations are inconsistent... Seriously one mis-translated word 'day' and the difference is 24 hours vs. 14 billion years...
And how do you know that the Hebrew text stayed changed throughout? We know that as little as a missing comma or incorrect verb tense can change the entire meaning of a sentence...
This post was edited on 2/5/14 at 1:03 pm
Posted on 2/5/14 at 1:07 pm to Lokistale
The dead sea scrolls are exact copies of currect circulations. Carbon dating proves their age.
I don't think anyone has lost their way using the English translations over morning and evening, but in reality it's what those words mean.
I don't think anyone has lost their way using the English translations over morning and evening, but in reality it's what those words mean.
Posted on 2/5/14 at 1:21 pm to BigEdLSU
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The dead sea scrolls are exact copies of currect circulations. Carbon dating proves their age. I don't think anyone has lost their way using the English translations over morning and evening, but in reality it's what those words mean.
But who wrote the Dead Sea scrolls? Are they an exact copy of the original text? How many copies of copies were there between the original text and the Dead Sea scrolls? How do you know all of those copies were word for word from the original text?
Posted on 2/5/14 at 1:27 pm to Lokistale
No offense but if you can't take science to prove things that help my beliefs when they clearly have, then I think you're just arguing to argue. Peace out
This post was edited on 2/5/14 at 1:27 pm
Posted on 2/5/14 at 1:33 pm to BigEdLSU
Posted on 2/5/14 at 1:46 pm to Patron Saint
Good lord, this thread is still going. And not one person has changed their mind about their beliefs.
Posted on 2/5/14 at 5:20 pm to Hulkklogan
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I just would love to know one thing: What makes Christianity right? Currently there are what, 8 major religions? All throughout time there have been thousands of religions. What makes Christianity right, but say... Paganism wrong? Or, why is Roman or Greek mythology any crazier than Christianity's crazy stories? The answer is it's no different, imo.
There are many answers to this question, but just because you don't know them, or they take some research to grasp, doesn't mean all religions are the same. Here is one reason: The person at the center of Christianity rose from the dead. No other religions even claim that, let alone have historical documentation supporting it.
All the worlds religions are starkly different, take drastically different approaches to the questions of life and death.
Posted on 2/5/14 at 5:23 pm to beejon
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Good lord, this thread is still going. And not one person has changed their mind about their beliefs.
Its a hot topic to discuss. And people don't change their minds on their beliefs in one thread. It takes a long time, and a lot of doubt. The decision to accept Christianity, for instance, is quite a loaded one because now you can't just do whatever you want with your life. If Christianity is true, your life has a reference point other than yourself now. People don't make a decision like that after reading a thread like this, or reading anything in a day, but that doesn't make the discussion useless.
Posted on 2/5/14 at 5:28 pm to beejon
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Good lord, this thread is still going. And not one person has changed their mind about their beliefs.
Posted on 2/5/14 at 5:51 pm to Byron Bojangles III
This is humorous but does not change the facts...the fact is that our biological ancestors, this planet, and the 100 billion or so observable galaxies did not materialize from thin air, they were created by God/higher being. There is no other theory that makes sense when you consider it logically. So Ham wins.
This post was edited on 2/5/14 at 5:52 pm
Posted on 2/5/14 at 5:53 pm to mattloc
Did your "higher being" materialize out of thin air?
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