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re: Bike lane controversy on Glenmore Ave in BR
Posted on 10/7/15 at 10:37 am to thesoccerfanjax
Posted on 10/7/15 at 10:37 am to thesoccerfanjax
Cycling gets expensive. If you like to fish someone may think you are crazy for having a 300 dollar reel, but it's your hobby and you like it, so you'll pay for it. I'll give shimano as an example since it works with both hobbies. I have Shimano Sienna reels that work perfectly fine, but I also have Stradic and Sustain reels with a much higher price tag. With cycling, you can have a decent bike with Shimano Tiagra components, but for a few hundred more, you can get Dura Ace level which is top of the line.
A bike can easily get over 2k for just a person who is really into the hobby (not in competitions or anything). Helmets can easily hit $150-$200+ bucks. Shoes, pedals, etc. all come at a premium if you want the higher end stuff. Everyone jokes about the spandex, but go ride 30 miles with and without those shorts and I bet you'll wear the shorts everytime. Jersey's with pockets in the back are extremely convenient as you can't really keep stuff in your pockets. In addition you have roof racks, trainers, etc and I'd say your average cycling enthusiast has over 5k work of crap. It tends to be a wealthier crowd honestly.
A bike can easily get over 2k for just a person who is really into the hobby (not in competitions or anything). Helmets can easily hit $150-$200+ bucks. Shoes, pedals, etc. all come at a premium if you want the higher end stuff. Everyone jokes about the spandex, but go ride 30 miles with and without those shorts and I bet you'll wear the shorts everytime. Jersey's with pockets in the back are extremely convenient as you can't really keep stuff in your pockets. In addition you have roof racks, trainers, etc and I'd say your average cycling enthusiast has over 5k work of crap. It tends to be a wealthier crowd honestly.
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Posted on 10/7/15 at 10:40 am to KG6
Yep. It tends to be lawyers, accountants, doctors...professional people that are into cycling because they can actually afford it. It's just that the hipster SJW's riding fixies are the vocal minority.
Posted on 10/7/15 at 10:48 am to thesoccerfanjax
As somebody who owns alot of guns and no bikes, I think it's hilarious that a board full of I'M ENTITLED TO CARRY GUNS AND OWN GUNS 2ND AMENDMENT bros are mad that people want to exercise their right to ride a legal vehicle on a public road.
Posted on 10/7/15 at 10:53 am to Huey Lewis
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As somebody who owns alot of guns and no bikes, I think it's hilarious that a board full of I'M ENTITLED TO CARRY GUNS AND OWN GUNS 2ND AMENDMENT bros are mad that people want to exercise their right to ride a legal vehicle on a public road.
Please. Traffic moves less than 30 mph on that stretch. There are multiple speed humps and most of the day, traffic is light. This is not Perkins or Government.
Cyclists would still easily and safely be able to ride there without a dedicated bike lane. None of this would even be an issue if a militant and incredibly petulant minority of cyclists didn't have sand in their vagina about steering around contractor vehicles and stray garbage bins. If you don't see that, you are kidding yourself. A group of assholes thought it would be cute to call the police, confront residents, and affix immature print outs to windshields instead of even attempting to coexist.
They kicked the wrong ant hill and now the lane has to be removed. If the city doesn't remove it, they risk people living on other bike routs like Capital Heights parking on that bike lane. If they remove it, other neighborhoods balk at the suggestion new bike lanes.
It was a stupid battle to pick, and cyclists are going to lose.
This post was edited on 10/7/15 at 11:00 am
Posted on 10/7/15 at 10:56 am to member12
I just mean the general anti-bike sentiment. The specific Glenmore bike lane issue I think has several amiable solutions.
Posted on 10/7/15 at 11:04 am to Huey Lewis
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I just mean the general anti-bike sentiment. The specific Glenmore bike lane issue I think has several amiable solutions.
True. But can you blame them now? This is the reaction that a few jerk offs on bikes have over having to steer around delivery trucks and recycling bins.
Why on earth would anyone want that attitude in their neighborhood now? This issue has made the whole cycling community look like petulant children even though as few as a handful of activist types on bikes started this whole thing.
I probably ride more than most on this forum but I don't consider myself a cyclists. I know the types that started this mess and they fit the stereotypes unfortunately well.
This post was edited on 10/7/15 at 11:08 am
Posted on 10/7/15 at 11:10 am to member12
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This is the reaction that a few jerk offs on bikes have over having to steer around delivery trucks and recycling bins.
You are thinking too narrow. On this street, is it a big deal? No. Doesn't seem to be the case. But on other busier streets, this could most certainly be dangerous, zig zagging in and out of traffic to avoid objects in the bike lane.
At what point do you enforce the rules and regulations, and at what point do you ignore?
Simple answer is that residential streets do not need bike lanes. Most residential streets are wide with slow moving traffic. Bikes and cars can easily coexist on residential streets.
But a bike lane was put in place on this street by approval of the residents. They should have been aware of the rules and regulations. If they were told that this street was exempt of some of the rules, they should have had that put into writing.
If it remains a dedicated bike lane, the rules should be enforced.
Now would I, as a cyclist, be a nazi about short term parking in the bike lane? No, I would not. But long term or repeat offenders? Yes. Those people should be ticketed.
This post was edited on 10/7/15 at 11:14 am
Posted on 10/7/15 at 11:12 am to member12
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cyclists didn't have sand in their vagina about steering around contractor vehicles and stray garbage bins
attempting to coexist.
I agree that the majority of people are going to be against the lane if it came down to parking and understand that point. I also agree that some cyclists might have been petty about it with calling cops, etc. The lane should likely be removed. But I think everyone assumes the above quote is easier than it is.
I live in The Woodlands. My wife works in community relations for The Woodlands. There are adequate shoulders to ride on, but where each side street enters, the curb comes out to the white line and blocks the shoulder, so you must get into the main road. It's a lot safer for me to just stay in the road. All cyclist in the area do this for that reason. It's difficult to ride and safely look back to make sure you can get in the lane without getting hit and having to do it every 150'. The Woodlands has received feedback on that and apparently is planning to push the curbs back so that riders can give cars more room on the road. So obstacles on the shoulder (which would act as a bike lane in this case) do cause a pretty decent issue to the point where this town is willing to spend money to fix it.
It's not "being a vagina", it's a legitimate thing that basically nullifies the usefulness of the lane itself.
This post was edited on 10/7/15 at 11:15 am
Posted on 10/7/15 at 11:15 am to Motorboat
I have very expensive lights. And also keep upgrading to lighter components. My bike costs more than my first car lol! But only weights 15 lbs so maybe worth it? Probably not.
Posted on 10/7/15 at 11:18 am to member12
If the bike lane is removed, I'll call police when I see someone parked there. Because it is still illegal. Sign or no sign.
But there's also more cyclists than residents. They will flood city council.
But there's also more cyclists than residents. They will flood city council.
This post was edited on 10/7/15 at 11:20 am
Posted on 10/7/15 at 11:20 am to torrey225
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If the bike lane is removed, I'll call police when I see someone parked there. Because it is still illegal. Sign or no sign.
Huh?
Posted on 10/7/15 at 11:20 am to torrey225
don't be a bitch
Posted on 10/7/15 at 11:20 am to torrey225
I enjoy a good bike lane to ride in, but man calling the cops is whack. Don't be that guy.
Posted on 10/7/15 at 11:21 am to torrey225
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If the bike lane is removed, I'll call police when I see someone parked there. Because it is still illegal. Sign or no sign.
This level of irrationality and childishness are why cyclists have a bad reputation.
Posted on 10/7/15 at 11:23 am to LSUBoo
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Sec. 11:416 - Parking on neutral ground, parks, rights-of-way, sidewalks and other public and private places prohibited.
No person shall stop, stand or park a vehicle or permit a vehicle registered in his name to be stopped, standing or parked, except when necessary to avoid conflict with other traffic or in compliance with the law and directions of a police officer or traffic parking-control device, at any of the following places:
(1)
Upon a neutral ground, right-of-way, sidewalk, strip of land between a property line and street curb, or other public way.
(2)
Upon any area of property comprising parks, playgrounds, recreational areas or facilities owned or operated by the recreation and parks commission that has not been specifically designated for parking and which interferes with the designed purpose thereof.
(3)
Upon any portion of the levee of the east bank of the Mississippi River opposite the Louisiana Arts and Science Center.
(4)
Upon privately owned property without the prior authorization and consent of the owner thereof.
(Ord. No. 7504, § 22, 4-25-84; Ord. No. 9876, § 1, 4-27-94; Ord. No. 13688, § 1, 7-26-06; Ord. No. 15011, § 1, 10-27-10)
Posted on 10/7/15 at 11:24 am to torrey225
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But there's also more cyclists than residents. They will flood city council.
You are going to be so disappointed with your first real civics lesson. It's not a numbers game...that's not how local government works.
I'm not even disagreeing on the merits of your argument, or saying you're wrong, just that metro council in a city like BR is not influenced by numbers alone.
Posted on 10/7/15 at 11:27 am to torrey225
Good luck with that.
Posted on 10/7/15 at 11:27 am to Salmon
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If it remains a dedicated bike lane, the rules should be enforced.
Do this, and you risk other neighborhoods in Baton Rouge fighting installing of bike lanes. The poor attitude of cyclists have been exposed and the dirty laundry has been aired.
Leave the lanes without enforcing parking, and you risk people on other bike routes parking in the lane.
The best answer is for cyclists to part with their precious lane and motorists to just deal with being delayed a few seconds.
Posted on 10/7/15 at 11:29 am to goofball
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Do this, and you risk other neighborhoods in Baton Rouge fighting installing of bike lanes.
that is fine
neighborhood streets generally don't need bike lanes
heavy traffic streets need bike lanes
This post was edited on 10/7/15 at 11:30 am
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