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re: Biggest red flag at the outset of the pandemic that made you doubt the official narrative?

Posted on 6/13/24 at 7:02 am to
Posted by Sidicous
NELA
Member since Aug 2015
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Posted on 6/13/24 at 7:02 am to
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Maybe you can comment where it's not a big deal


Paper masks that come in a box NOT individually shrink wrapped are NOT sterile. Especially a box sitting open on a desk or stuck sideways on the wall for the general public to reach in and grab.

But keep on being the contrarian troll you always have been Sao.
Posted by MikeBRLA
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2005
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Posted on 6/13/24 at 7:03 am to
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And there also was the constantly changing narrative of the vaccine’s effectiveness, from 95% effective against infection to the vaccine will keep you out of the hospital to the vaccine will keep you out of the ICU to the vaccine will keep you from dying to the current narrative where they have to hide those studies that seemingly show the vaccine to actually increase likelihood of infection.


This “effectiveness of a vaccine” nonsense means it isn’t a vaccine at all, which led the CDC to literally change their definition of vaccine so that they could continue to call it a vaccine. Rather than do the right thing and admit it’s not a vaccine , but rather a symptom reducer (at best).
Posted by low end
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Posted on 6/13/24 at 7:07 am to
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CDC to literally change their definition of vaccine so that they could continue to call it a vaccine.


Did they actually do this? Genuinely curious.


EDIT: Found it. Looks like they did change it. However, the Webster's/Oxford definition remained/remains unchanged.
This post was edited on 6/13/24 at 7:16 am
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 6/13/24 at 7:09 am to
One was when they said that you had to wear a mask when walking to your table in a restaurant but you didn’t have to wear it when seated.

Another was when they refused to acknowledge that the average age of death of Covid was equivalent to the average age of death in general, and that the vast majority of people who were dying were people who were had several co-morbidities and chronic diseases. They were hell bent on trying to convince the average person that they could die from it.
Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 6/13/24 at 7:11 am to
Ahh. Contrarion Sao.

Precaution, masks, sterilization, pre-op, post-op, Rx and on and on was contrarion psuedo-science before 2020.

I'm just a guy in sales with some history of real estate and a love of money. Don't blame me...
Posted by Dixie2023
Member since Mar 2023
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Posted on 6/13/24 at 7:12 am to
Everything about it. Was it that Covid magically jumped in if you were with over a certain number of people? Hanging out after a certain time? Mom and pop stores closed, but big box was ok to be open? Riots and protests were safe, but not church? The enforcement of “vaccines” or lose your livelihood? Yeah, that was a big one.
Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
Member since Jun 2009
68123 posts
Posted on 6/13/24 at 7:17 am to
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Everything about it. Was it that Covid magically jumped in if you were with over a certain number of people? Hanging out after a certain time? Mom and pop stores closed, but big box was ok to be open? Riots and protests were safe, but not church? The enforcement of “vaccines” or lose your livelihood? Yeah, that was a big one.

Wait. You do know this was pre-2021, right?
Posted by CocomoLSU
Inside your dome.
Member since Feb 2004
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Posted on 6/13/24 at 7:18 am to
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At the beginning we were told that masks didn’t work. Maybe the more expensive ones a little, but you couldn’t really rely on them.

Then, suddenly, everyone must mask up everywhere or we all die.

That. And more specifically, when the data on the Covid surges started coming out and the graphs were almost identical between masked areas and non-masked areas. That was all the evidence I needed to see that masks were bullshite (in terms of preventing anything) and that it was some weird narrative being flexed by local governments.

And the lack of logic behind masks never made any sense anyway. If masks don't work, nobody needs to wear them. If masks do work, then people who want to wear them, go for it, and people who don't, don't. Also the idea that masks prevented the spread basically one way ("It's to protect those around you when YOU have symptoms") was hilarious. Those piece of shite cloth masks weren't doing anything more than if you simply held your shirt over your mouth/nose. Then it was that only the N95 masks were worth a shite, yet we still had to wear the little shite paper/cloth ones. None of it ever made a lick of sense IMO.

And then on top of that, when they would say that restaurants or bars couldn't be open, but the casino restaurants/bars could be. Or that something could be open but only until 8 or 10 at night, due to safety. It's either all dangerous or none of it is. But this picking and choosing what businesses could function and survive and not allowing others to do so...that was yet another thing that told me it was mostly bullshite.

And hey, I'm not one of those "Covid isn't real!!1" idiots. Of course it's real. Hell, one of my former employees lost her dad and her brother within 24 hours to Covid. I know it is a real sickness and can be dangerous for some people. But it was pretty clear from VERY early on that it wasn't anything overly dangerous to the general public and was pretty similar to a common cold/flu. So the absolute terror and overreaction to it on a global scale was complete and utter bullshite. And it changed the world for the worse, and possibly forever too.




ETA: Then all of the extra bullshite that came along with it. Idiot doctors and "experts" on TV screaming about how Covid is coming for our children and grandparents. Or that you can't go see your ailed family in the hospital. Or better yet, even go to their fricking funeral. Or the government telling everyone to mask up and/or get vaccinated or you can basically go frick off and lose your livelihoods and personal freedoms, all while big politicians partied and did whatever they wanted....maskless. The allowance of rioting but prevention of going to church...that kind of shite was just icing on the cake by that point.

And don't get me started on the "dying FROM Covid" vs. "dying WITH Covid" thing. Once it came out that hospitals were literally being paid for Covid patients/deaths, it was very clear that those "Covid death" numbers were a gigantic pile of shite. I wouldn't be surprised if eventually the honest truth came out and Covid killed fewer people than something like SARS from 25 years ago. (But we know the actual truth would never see the light of day).

Then it was the constant changing of the vaccine narrative. First it was "if you get the vax it will prevent you from getting Covid." Then it was that it won't prevent it, but will mostly prevent it. Then it was that it doesn't prevent it but will help with the symptoms. Natural immunity was never embraced or really discussed for whatever reason. Just none of it made any sense really.

Almost every single thing that was labeled as "conspiracy theory bullshite" back then has eventually come out as being true. Yet nothing changes. Nobody apologizes or admits they were wrong. Laws and policies were created based on obvious lies and manipulation, and that pendulum hasn't fully swung back yet.

The very public degradation of meds such as Ivermectin. The absolute sham media running with the "horse dewormer" angle when Ivermectin has always had human versions of the medicine and it has been used for decades. I do believe Joe Rogan had a lot to do with that, and he has every right to be furious about how his situation was handled by the media. His grilling of Sanjay Gupta on his podcast should be mandatory viewing for anybody that thinks that the media is doing the public a positive service. People straight up lied in the national media that Rogan was taking "horse medicine" solely for ratings and to slander him. Nevermind that ivermectin actually did/does work and is a completely normal and safe medicine for human fricking beings. But how many idiots on social media chanted and posted memes about "not taking horse meds."

And on top of all of that, for whatever reason Covid was the straw that broke the camel's back in terms of identity politics and made people pick sides and act accordingly.

Also, the general masses in this country are FAR more compliant than I ever thought they would be. And the government, at nearly all levels, made a power grab unlike anything we've seen in a really long time. All in the name of Covid and "public safety." And it seems like certain politicians got their taste of what being a dictator feels like, and government as a whole shifted a little closer toward that, which is never a good thing. And now it seems like any time anything remotely happens, government will simply declare "emergencies" and use and abuse its powers.
This post was edited on 6/14/24 at 7:17 am
Posted by WaydownSouth
Stratton Oakmont
Member since Nov 2018
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Posted on 6/13/24 at 7:19 am to
I was the OG virus doubter on this website
Posted by IndianMoundFireworks
Member since Oct 2021
579 posts
Posted on 6/13/24 at 7:20 am to
Being told to wear a mask outdoors.
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
16828 posts
Posted on 6/13/24 at 7:21 am to
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Trump panicked wanted to secure the olds

Trump panicked?

Can you show me one single medical professional at the CDC who recommended he not shutdown?

It was unanimous. He would’ve had to stand there and tell the public every single virologist, the WHO and both his lead advisors (Fauci and Birx) were wrong to avoid a shutdown early on.

They probably would’ve impeached him if he’d tried.

Covid single-handedly set back the perception of our health care leadership and vaccines by a generation or two.
Posted by low end
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Member since May 2024
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Posted on 6/13/24 at 7:21 am to
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I was the OG virus doubter on this website


What a dubious distinction.
Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
Member since Jun 2009
68123 posts
Posted on 6/13/24 at 7:23 am to

Incredible How some so informed, 4 years later, have dementia about March-November is wild.
Posted by WaydownSouth
Stratton Oakmont
Member since Nov 2018
9635 posts
Posted on 6/13/24 at 7:24 am to
Lots of downvoters

Sad folks were so easily duped big big daddy gov
Posted by low end
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Posted on 6/13/24 at 7:27 am to
Posted by Roaad
White Privilege Broker
Member since Aug 2006
79391 posts
Posted on 6/13/24 at 7:27 am to
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Biggest red flag at the outset of the pandemic that made you doubt the official narrative?

They got it from eating bats'

Meanwhile there is a place that studies COVID in the city where they claim that the bat-eating occurred. And the place opened in 2018
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
54589 posts
Posted on 6/13/24 at 7:28 am to
One was actually summer of 2021, which made it even worse. Told the family he would have to die alone, then about two days before he passed, they were informed if they got vaxxed, they could go see him. So two family members got vaxxed, but he died before they let them in to visit.

Just sick all the way around.
Posted by Dixie2023
Member since Mar 2023
3508 posts
Posted on 6/13/24 at 7:31 am to
That was crazy. Made zero sense. All of it made no sense.
Posted by SuperOcean
Member since Jun 2022
4585 posts
Posted on 6/13/24 at 7:31 am to
The models

No way they could create the numbers they were touting. There had to be manipulation ...and there was
To me, right off the bat ( no pun intended...) it didn't pass the sniff test - it was propaganda
Posted by Lake08
Member since Jun 2023
1905 posts
Posted on 6/13/24 at 7:34 am to
When Fauci was sitting with two other people at a baseball game with no mask.
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