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Posted on 11/19/21 at 8:35 am to stout
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Yea try to discredit the author instead of the information. Good job!
It's what they do when they can't win the argument.
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those papers that clearly show Ivermectin is effective and maybe even more effective than the new drug?
And for some reason they refuse to acknowledge this and keep trying to argue that the two drugs are not the same.
Posted on 11/19/21 at 8:36 am to Oilfieldbiology
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and that this new Pfizer drug requires 1/1,000 of the dose.
Well, they are using an HIV drug to slow down metabolism and help absorption. This was discovered using clinical trials. Again, something Ivemectin never received the benefits of.
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The HIV drug helps slow the metabolism, or breakdown, of Pfizer’s pill in order for it to remain active in the body for longer periods of time at higher concentrations, the company said
LINK
This post was edited on 11/19/21 at 8:40 am
Posted on 11/19/21 at 8:37 am to MorbidTheClown
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so, it's about money?
IT'S ALWAYS ABOUT MONEY
Posted on 11/19/21 at 8:39 am to Sao
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And you with the sailors in San Diego
I don't think im heading that way today Mao
Weird how you knew it was Male day
Posted on 11/19/21 at 8:40 am to Oilfieldbiology
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Are there anecdotal cases in addition to the “coincidence” that India saw massive drops in Covid cases once they start mass prescribing ivermectin? Damn right there are and the discussion amongst medical professionals, researchers, and chemist/pharmacological organic chemist, need to be encouraged.
Ivermectin didn't fight off Covid in India. Because of India's living conditions, its population is riddled with parasites. Normally, their bodies are fighting the parasites thus weakening the ability to fight viruses. By administering ivermectin they were able to kill the parasites in their bodies thus making their bodies able to fight off Covid. Ivermectin itself did NOT fight off Covid.
Posted on 11/19/21 at 8:40 am to SDVTiger
There's a thread on it, Professor.
Posted on 11/19/21 at 8:40 am to stout
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This was discovered using clinical trials. Again, something Ivemetcin never received the benefits of.
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Effect of Ivermectin on Time to Resolution of Symptoms Among Adults With Mild COVID-19A Randomized Clinical Trial
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Conclusion and Relevance Among adults with mild COVID-19, a 5-day course of ivermectin, compared with placebo, did not significantly improve the time to resolution of symptoms. The findings do not support the use of ivermectin for treatment of mild COVID-19, although larger trials may be needed to understand the effects of ivermectin on other clinically relevant outcomes.
Link to Trial
Posted on 11/19/21 at 8:46 am to stout
OK so if there's a TREATMENT then WHY do we need a MANDATORY VACCINE?? I mean if the VACCINE works ...
Posted on 11/19/21 at 8:47 am to tiger91
That’s what I’ve been getting at. We have treatments. We have vaccines. We have natural
Immunities. No need for vaccine mandates anymore.
Immunities. No need for vaccine mandates anymore.
This post was edited on 11/19/21 at 8:48 am
Posted on 11/19/21 at 8:47 am to elprez00
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All opinions aside, if this pill is basically the tamaflu for Covid, then why are we still pushing vaccine mandates?
Because you touch yourself at night.
Posted on 11/19/21 at 8:50 am to tiger91
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OK so if there's a TREATMENT then WHY do we need a MANDATORY VACCINE?? I mean if the VACCINE works ...
Impatient enough? We probably won't need the vaccine as the treatment shows promise in the real world. I was scheduled for my booster yesterday at CVS but canceled after hearing the news of the treatment. I'll hold off for a few months to see if the treatment is working.
Posted on 11/19/21 at 8:51 am to MardiGrasCajun
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We probably won't need the vaccine
The covidians will never stop
Posted on 11/19/21 at 8:52 am to SDVTiger
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The covidians will never stop
Sure they will. Even they don't want the injection every 6-8 months.
Posted on 11/19/21 at 8:54 am to MardiGrasCajun
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Sure they will. Even they don't want the injection every 6-8 months.
Lulz. Even you were ready for your booster
And no doubt you would have gotten another one in 6mnths and 6mnths after that
Posted on 11/19/21 at 8:55 am to UltimaParadox
Hmm...
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On October 20, 2020, the lead pharmacist observed that a labeling error had occurred between September 29 and October 15, 2020, resulting in all patients receiving ivermectin and none receiving placebo during this time frame. The study blind was not unmasked due to this error. The data and safety monitoring board recommended excluding these patients from the primary analysis but retaining them for sensitivity analysis. The protocol was amended to replace these patients to retain the originally calculated study power.
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This study has several limitations. First, the study was not conducted or completed according to the original design, and the original primary outcome to detect the ability of ivermectin to prevent clinical deterioration was changed 6 weeks into the trial. In the study population, the incidence of clinical deterioration was below 3%, making the original planned analysis futile.
Posted on 11/19/21 at 8:58 am to SDVTiger
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Lulz. Even you were ready for your booster
And no doubt you would have gotten another one in 6mnths and 6mnths after that
Damn right I would have had the treatment not been approved. I'm not against the vaccine. I'm against mandates though. I'm hardcore conservative and I'm all Republican.
Posted on 11/19/21 at 9:02 am to Oilfieldbiology
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Legit question, who is saying this is just ivermectin?
It's not.
Paxlovid is a Protease Inhibitor and is designed to prevent the virus from replicating.
Ivermectin, in presence of a viral infection, targets the IMPa component of the IMP a/ß1 heterodimer and binds to it, preventing interaction with IMP ß1, subsequently blocking the nuclear transport of viral proteins. This allows the cell to carry out its normal antiviral response.
LINK
So, one (Ivermectin) prevents the transport of viral proteins (COVID) and the other (Paxlovid) prevents replication.
One costs nearly nothing and the other costs $500 per pill.
Give me ivermectin every day of the week and twice on Sunday.
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