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re: Best Home Standby Generator?

Posted on 1/15/22 at 12:06 am to
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
98182 posts
Posted on 1/15/22 at 12:06 am to
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He says do not get a Generac. 


Concur. I know several people whose general failed to fire up when needed
Posted by Herecomethehawks
The Hawkeye State
Member since Oct 2014
71 posts
Posted on 1/15/22 at 4:09 am to
Just had a 48kw generac installed. Had heard about quality issues but couldn’t find a kohler installer in my area. Hope the generac works ok for me.
Posted by Don Ready
Prairieville, LA
Member since Aug 2010
163 posts
Posted on 1/15/22 at 6:33 am to
Cummins
Posted by GeauxTigers0107
South Louisiana
Member since Oct 2009
9716 posts
Posted on 1/15/22 at 6:47 am to
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I’ve had my Generac for 6 years.


We've had ours for 9 years.

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It has been flawless. 22kw whole house.

It ran my whole house for 2 weeks post Ida. Not one issue
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Same. Well over 200,000 hours on it. Runs like a champ.

The people who have problems with their Generac AIR-COOLED generator are the ones who tried to run them 24/7 and not perform any maintenance on them. You just can't do that. Stop bad-mouthing the generator and take care of your shite you lazy bum.

You want to run one 24/7? Get their big QuietComfort WATER-COOLED generator. Gonna cost you in the 12-15k range but it's 1/2 as loud as the air-cooled and can/has run 24/7 on several friend's houses.
Posted by Stateguy
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2006
887 posts
Posted on 1/15/22 at 7:05 am to
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We've had ours for 9 years.


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Well over 200,000 hours on it. Runs like a champ.


that is impressive
Posted by justjoe906
Member since Oct 2013
1369 posts
Posted on 1/15/22 at 7:24 am to
Something you don't need to find and store gallons of gas for.
Posted by ItNeverRains
37069
Member since Oct 2007
25445 posts
Posted on 1/15/22 at 7:41 am to
I’m building a small pool house (574 sq ft) will have small kitchen & bath. Costco has this generator for $999 and right now you get a $300 costco card with purchase. Can use nat gas line from grill outside also so don’t need to store ton of fuel.

Firman
Posted by back9Tiger
Mandeville, LA.
Member since Nov 2005
14143 posts
Posted on 1/15/22 at 7:48 am to
Kholer… generac is garbage.
Posted by JDPndahizzy
JDP
Member since Nov 2013
6437 posts
Posted on 1/15/22 at 7:50 am to
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. Well over 200,000 hours on it

I think you added a few zeros by mistake.
Posted by LT
The City of St. George
Member since May 2008
5151 posts
Posted on 1/15/22 at 7:59 am to
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that's right. As far as I know Generac makes good products not sure why their whole house units have so many issues.



My understanding is generac recently started replacing steel internal mechanical parts with plastic. The newer versions with plastic parts aren't holding up as well.

The hierarchy of quality is
Cummins
Koehler
Generac

The problem with Cummins if in baton rouge area is they have one guy in Jennette (from what I hear) that services the area. This was told to me by mommas neighbor so tale with a grain of salt
Posted by Don Ready
Prairieville, LA
Member since Aug 2010
163 posts
Posted on 1/15/22 at 8:25 am to
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The problem with Cummins if in baton rouge area is they have one guy in Jennette (from what I hear) that services the area. This was told to me by mommas neighbor so tale with a grain of salt


Not true. GAGE in BR is Cummins top dealer in LA and services all south LA. LINK
This post was edited on 1/15/22 at 8:27 am
Posted by Stateguy
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2006
887 posts
Posted on 1/15/22 at 8:53 am to
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The hierarchy of quality is
Cummins
Koehler
Generac


where do you put Briggs and Stratton - above Generac?
Posted by LT
The City of St. George
Member since May 2008
5151 posts
Posted on 1/15/22 at 8:57 am to
I only know those 3.

And also

quote:

Not true. GAGE in BR is Cummins top dealer in LA and services all south LA.


I stand corrected.
This post was edited on 1/15/22 at 8:58 am
Posted by CasualBystander
Member since Apr 2019
154 posts
Posted on 1/15/22 at 9:00 am to
8 year old Generac 24 kw. Worked flawlessly for a week+ after Ida. Routine maintenance makes a big difference, as does shutting down and checking the oil every day or so during continuous outage.

If I was buying new, water cooled Cummins would be the choice.
Posted by SuperSaint
Sorting Out OT BS Since '2007'
Member since Sep 2007
140462 posts
Posted on 1/15/22 at 9:11 am to
Tesla Gateway 2 with Powerwall
Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
12491 posts
Posted on 1/15/22 at 9:24 am to
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Tesla Gateway 2 with Powerwall

If you can afford it and the solar to support it I think this is a superior option, coming from someone that has a Cummins on one house and a PV w/ PW2 on another.
Posted by Miketheseventh
Member since Dec 2017
5736 posts
Posted on 1/15/22 at 9:34 am to
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He says do not get a Generac

My mother-in-law’s stayed broke. Hers was about two years old and she had to replace it because it was shot. It had never been run more than the weekly testing a few times and those were never more than a few hours each. I tried talking her out of replacing it with another Generac but she wouldn’t listen. Hopefully she has better luck with this one
Posted by Hangover Haven
Metry
Member since Oct 2013
26541 posts
Posted on 1/15/22 at 9:47 am to
I picked up a Firman 7500/9400 just before Ida, ran it for 10 days straight, give or take a few hours when the wife and I left for work, worked great. Did burn up about 8 gallons every 12 hours with at least one window unit on and everything else that runs in the house. Have a 30 amp whip on back feed to the panel.

From out the box, I put 190 hours on it. Changed the oil twice. No complaints... Oh, and FEMA reimbursed us the 800 we paid for it.

This post was edited on 1/15/22 at 9:50 am
Posted by HeyCap
Member since Nov 2014
612 posts
Posted on 1/15/22 at 9:53 am to
I was investigating a while back and the choice hands down for quality was a Cummins water cooled. 3600 rpm that would decrease to 1800 rpm depending on the load. Quiet. Efficient. It doesn’t need as much clearance as an air cooled generator which for me is perfect in a tight suburban lot. The drawbacks were the thing is a beast; larger footprint than air cooled and the water cooled start at 22kw or 24kw when my house only requires 12-14kw total. Coincidentally I believe that that was also the asking price at the time, $12-14k. Someone had told me that the rule of thumb is the install price would be about the same as the generator price, so ~$25k (or the price of a used car these days).

My plumber knows about my clearance difficulties (air cooled would never meet code) and mentioned I could get basically a portable generator with the same output as a fixed whole home and just wheel it out as need be. Converting it to NG he said is easy and the electrical hookup is straightforward. Of course you lose all of the automation of a fixed whole house generator.
Posted by bapple
Capital City
Member since Oct 2010
11888 posts
Posted on 1/15/22 at 11:04 am to
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I could get basically a portable generator with the same output as a fixed whole home and just wheel it out as need be. Converting it to NG he said is easy and the electrical hookup is straightforward. Of course you lose all of the automation of a fixed whole house generator.


That’s also a good option. If you can have a NG line run and install a transfer switch near it plus a 240V receptacle you’d be golden. Only downside would be rolling it out but converting it to NG would save tons of trips to the gas station and no having to store gas cans.

EDIT: And as mentioned before if you put soft starters on your AC you could probably keep them running too. I wrote about it here:

Run Your Home HVAC with a Portable Gen
This post was edited on 1/15/22 at 11:07 am
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