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re: Beryl Thread - the clean up begins...

Posted on 7/5/24 at 10:05 am to
Posted by dkreller
Laffy
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Posted on 7/5/24 at 10:05 am to
LA gonna catch a bunch of rain after that thing gets chewed up.
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
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Posted on 7/5/24 at 10:06 am to
Damn, that means a lot of rain.
Posted by lsugolfredman
Member since Jun 2005
1941 posts
Posted on 7/5/24 at 10:08 am to
12z ICON is insistent on that Galveston up the LA/TX stateline track.

Posted by ApisMellifera
SWLA
Member since Apr 2023
761 posts
Posted on 7/5/24 at 10:08 am to
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I’ve seen some videos claiming the GFS has been the primary indicator for landfall but that it’s been inaccurate. The videos have said to use the ICON which has been forecasting a closer-to-Houston landfall all along. Any validity to these claims?


Without knowing who you’re talking about, that just sounds like someone throwing shite against the wall looking for clicks.

If you were to use the ICON the past few days, you’d have been thinking it was a SWLA landfall.
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
177204 posts
Posted on 7/5/24 at 10:09 am to
Deterministics all are inside of Texas now.

OT really nailed this one.

Posted by rds dc
Member since Jun 2008
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Posted on 7/5/24 at 10:20 am to
quote:

I’ve seen some videos claiming the GFS has been the primary indicator for landfall but that it’s been inaccurate. The videos have said to use the ICON which has been forecasting a closer-to-Houston landfall all along. Any validity to these claims?


The Euro has been trash b/c it's been too weak. The GFS has been middle of the road bad. The ICON has been the most consistent with a Texas landfall. However, it's hard to say if that is "right for the wrong reasons" or a model success story.

For hurricane forecasting, the global models don't have the resolution to handle storm scale issues with tropical systems. The globals are mostly useful for steering, shear, upper air patterns, etc. You wouldn't typically rely on a global model forecast track, but you would use the output of a global to generate a forecast track.
Posted by Mr Roboto
Seattle
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Posted on 7/5/24 at 10:20 am to
Louisiana now in the cone
Posted by Odysseus32
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Posted on 7/5/24 at 10:22 am to
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This post was edited on 9/12/25 at 6:47 pm
Posted by Large Farva
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2013
8724 posts
Posted on 7/5/24 at 10:24 am to
How did Cancun make out? We have a week long trip beginning on the 17th of July.
Posted by rds dc
Member since Jun 2008
21477 posts
Posted on 7/5/24 at 10:32 am to
Beryl appears to be tracking on the righthand side of the 06z guidance envelope. Ensemble members in that cluster take the system a ways up the Texas Coast.
Posted by ABucks11
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2012
1236 posts
Posted on 7/5/24 at 10:38 am to
Space City Weather guys went from last two days of “no worries in Houston” to today’s “watch this more closely.”
Posted by BigBinBR
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2023
10220 posts
Posted on 7/5/24 at 10:38 am to
quote:

The Euro has been trash b/c it's been too weak. The GFS has been middle of the road bad. The ICON has been the most consistent with a Texas landfall. However, it's hard to say if that is "right for the wrong reasons" or a model success story.


Does any of this have to do with how “early” the storm was for the Caribbean and the lack of historical data for the area?
Posted by AmosMosesAndTwins
Lake Charles
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Posted on 7/5/24 at 10:40 am to
No it was a typo.
Posted by Champagne
Sabine Free State.
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Posted on 7/5/24 at 10:49 am to
What, if any, atmospheric conditions exist that can operate to keep the storm from Rapid Intensification, as it passes Yucatan and travels back into the Gulf on its way to its landfall?

Thanks.
Posted by rds dc
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Posted on 7/5/24 at 10:49 am to
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
74979 posts
Posted on 7/5/24 at 10:59 am to
I don't like how they keep moving up the Intensification timing.
Posted by tiger91
In my own little world
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40226 posts
Posted on 7/5/24 at 11:00 am to
I don’t like that cone coming more in my direction.
Posted by Champagne
Sabine Free State.
Member since Oct 2007
55133 posts
Posted on 7/5/24 at 11:02 am to
Are conditions in the Gulf favorable for Rapid Intensification? If so, the, it will rapidly intensify and continue to curve towards Galveston Bay and the Tx-La state line.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
74979 posts
Posted on 7/5/24 at 11:02 am to
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Reading this and the fact the scientific models kept initializing the storm much weaker than the NHC was claiming makes the conspiracy theory side of me wonder if it ever really was a Cat 5. Election year and the left needs to push climate fear so maybe the govt leaned on the NHC to overblow it in order to get the “record setting storm” talking points

Nah. It was a legit beast and earned it.

Now, if you want to redirect this energy toward the 75mph Cat. 3 Major Hurricane Idalia making landfall last year in the Big Bend of Florida I'd consider throwing my support behind you.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
134779 posts
Posted on 7/5/24 at 11:11 am to
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favorable for Rapid Intensification
BINGO!!!
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