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Bat infected with Covid-19 from research center may have been sold at wet market
Posted on 4/13/20 at 8:30 am
Posted on 4/13/20 at 8:30 am
As of now, this is still not proven (it's a research paper), but there's a good chance that infected animals from the Wuhan research facility were sold at the wet market.
It's common for animals to be used to test drugs and treatments, but they are usually destroyed after.
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Disclosure - this is a research document being shared by Hong-Kong friendly media outlets.
It's common for animals to be used to test drugs and treatments, but they are usually destroyed after.
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A Chinese research paper showing that the novel coronavirus had come from a Wuhan biolab and not from the bats sold at the Wuhan market had been censored by communist authorities and pulled out of online publication, according to American China expert and author Steven Mosher.
Written by Botao Xiao and Lei Xiao from the state-run South China University of Technology, the paper titled “The Possible Origins of the 2019-n-CoV coronavirus” confirmed that the China virus came from an animal known as the intermediate horseshoe bats, as alleged by communist authorities who said that bats were being sold in the Wuhan market.
But the researchers said the virus couldn’t have come from the Wuhan market, wrote Mosher in an April 2 article on LifeSite News.
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“We screened the area around the seafood market and identified two laboratories conducting research on bat coronavirus,” the researchers said. “Within 280 meters from the market, there was the Wuhan Center for Disease Control and Prevention (WHCDC). WHCDC hosted animals in laboratories for research purposes, one of which was specialized in pathogens collection and identification.”
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Botao Xiao and Lei Xiao, writes Mosher, noted that one WHCDC study used 155 horseshoe bats captured from Hubei province and 450 bats captured from Zhejiang province.
“They concluded,” Mosher writes, “that the first case of a human having contracted the virus was probably a biolab worker from the WHCDC or WIV who accidentally exposed himself to blood or urine from a bat and infected himself. They also suggested that infected tissue samples from research animals, or the animals themselves, may have wound up in the wet market.”
According to Mosher, the researchers also concluded that “safety” should be improved in “high risk, biohazardous laboratories,” and that authorities should “relocate [them] far away from the city center and other densely populated areas.”
Published February, the “Possible Origins” paper was quickly censored by Chinese authorities and disappeared online.
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Disclosure - this is a research document being shared by Hong-Kong friendly media outlets.
This post was edited on 4/13/20 at 8:55 am
Posted on 4/13/20 at 8:32 am to goofball
German bats in Wuhan.. Crazy world ..
Posted on 4/13/20 at 8:33 am to goofball
I don't know if this is true or not, but at this point I'm not ruling out anything. But just wait, there are legions of China apologists on this board who will be here shortly to downvote. They don't know how it started either, but are just certain that China couldn't have done anything wrong.
Posted on 4/13/20 at 8:35 am to SloaneRanger
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They don't know how it started either, but are just certain that China couldn't have done anything wrong.
Those are the Chinese social media agents.
Posted on 4/13/20 at 8:36 am to goofball
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https://lifestyle.inquirer.net/
Posted on 4/13/20 at 8:36 am to SloaneRanger
This doesn't mean the virus is bio-engineered. It means that it was being researched in a lab, likely for treatment purposes. The animals used during testing found their way to exotic wet markets in the Wuhan area.
This would be the result of extreme negligence and incompetence, not biological warfare.
This would be the result of extreme negligence and incompetence, not biological warfare.
Posted on 4/13/20 at 8:40 am to goofball
Seems very chinese to have those facilities right in the fricking city.
Posted on 4/13/20 at 8:45 am to S
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Seems very chinese to have those facilities right in the fricking city.
Seems on par with where the rest of the world has their labs... LINK to wiki, scroll down to list of bsl-4 facilities.
This post was edited on 4/13/20 at 8:46 am
Posted on 4/13/20 at 8:47 am to SloaneRanger
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I don't know if this is true or not, but at this point I'm not ruling out anything. But just wait, there are legions of China apologists on this board who will be here shortly to downvote. They don't know how it started either, but are just certain that China couldn't have done anything wrong.
Not a Chinese apologists by a fricking long shot, but I'll downvote any posts that starts off with
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As of now, this is still not proven
This is why & how conspiracy theories exist. People pass along rumor and unproven bullshite then someone down the line will start spouting this off as gospel.
Posted on 4/13/20 at 8:48 am to S
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Seems very chinese to have those facilities right in the fricking city.
The methods of controlling the spread in those facilities in China are apparently run by the CCP insiders and not actual doctors. The US has medical research facilities dealing with highly infectious diseases in Atlanta, Boston, Chicago, and San Francisco. Similar story in Tokyo, Paris, Brisbane, and London.
We clearly have far superior methods to controlling the spread and the test animals. The west also doesn't a lucrative market for rat and bat meat in the US. You won't find that at Kroger or Whole Foods.
I think the argument that this paper is making isn't that China is maliciously trying to spread the virus. They are maliciously hiding information and lying while they stockpile PPE and attempt to blame the west for this outbreak. This was likely caused by the same factors at play with Chernobyl - massive arrogance and gross incompetence in China. It's not an act of war, it's an act of stupidity followed up with a typical communist iron fist on censorship and a coordinated disinformation campaign.
Posted on 4/13/20 at 8:49 am to ashy larry
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People pass along rumor and unproven bullshite then someone down the line will start spouting this off as gospel.
It's a research paper. It's more than a rumor. It's a theory.
Posted on 4/13/20 at 8:49 am to goofball
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This doesn't mean the virus is bio-engineered. It means that it was being researched in a lab, likely for treatment purposes.
Posted on 4/13/20 at 8:49 am to goofball
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This doesn't mean the virus is bio-engineered
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This would be the result of extreme negligence and incompetence, not biological warfare.
I don't see anywhere in the OP that suggests any of this. It just sounds like China is a nasty fricking place with extreme disregard for public health and safety
Posted on 4/13/20 at 8:52 am to goofball
Pardon my ignorance, but WTF is a WET MARKET?
Posted on 4/13/20 at 8:53 am to IAmNERD
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I don't see anywhere in the OP that suggests any of this. It just sounds like China is a nasty fricking place with extreme disregard for public health and safety
That's the likely culprit. The research suggests that the infected animals appear to have originated at a research facility. frick knows what they were researching, but it somehow ended up outside of the facility.
China has shut down the research facility but has allowed the wet markets to reopen.
Posted on 4/13/20 at 8:54 am to Shexter
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Pardon my ignorance, but WTF is a WET MARKET?
It's a market in which exotic animals from around the world are sold for meat. It's common in SE Asia, and it's how viruses easily transmit (and mutate) to animals that wouldn't normally be exposed to it. There are videos online, but you don't want to see them.
Posted on 4/13/20 at 8:55 am to IAmNERD
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I don't see anywhere in the OP that suggests any of this. It just sounds like China is a nasty fricking place with extreme disregard for public health and safety
You ever tried feeding 1.3B+ people? If they had our societal backstops, this would have never happened. tic
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