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Posted on 11/13/22 at 12:29 pm to mmcgrath
The amount of bad aviation takes in this thread are what I love about the OT.
For the pilots involved:
Here's a nickel on the grass...
For the pilots involved:
Here's a nickel on the grass...
Posted on 11/13/22 at 12:42 pm to slacker130
ETA: Here's a nickel on the grass...
This post was edited on 11/13/22 at 1:10 pm
Posted on 11/13/22 at 12:46 pm to Oates Mustache
Yeah, Len and Terry were both retired, Len retired as a check airman and Terry was just behind me in seniority, super guys, lots of kids and grandkids lost their pops yesterday
Posted on 11/13/22 at 12:50 pm to Squidbaggins32
quote:I was just saying what it looks like. He probably sensed something was amiss and tried to change his angle to see around the nose of the plane.
it's an accident. there is NOTHING intentional.
this video is an interview of the p-63 pilot...
Posted on 11/13/22 at 12:57 pm to flyAU
There are multiple angles of this accident on YouTube.
Posted on 11/13/22 at 12:58 pm to mmcgrath
Cockpit view of a P-63.
Not a very obstructed view. I do feel he was probably banking looking "up" (trying to find the B-17 that he thought was further down range because of a loss of situational awareness). He likely never saw it directly in front of him, hence no evasive maneuvers
Posted on 11/13/22 at 12:59 pm to flyAU
Damn, that's horrible...I took this picture of the b-17 several years ago...prayers for all involved...
This post was edited on 11/13/22 at 1:25 pm
Posted on 11/13/22 at 1:59 pm to pussywillows
Dallas M.E. reporting total of 6 fatalities from yesterday's crash
Sounds like two pilots in B17, 1 in the KingCobra, rest were spectators.
Sounds like two pilots in B17, 1 in the KingCobra, rest were spectators.
This post was edited on 11/13/22 at 2:04 pm
Posted on 11/13/22 at 2:40 pm to Dragula
I’m assuming those guys all have a briefing together to discuss the flight? That most of it is planned out? Obviously these accidents are rare, but those guys don’t train together or anything really right? I’m curious what the initial plan was in relation to the flight path that actually occurred?
Posted on 11/13/22 at 2:56 pm to flyAU
quote:
Cockpit view of a P-63.
Not a very obstructed view. I do feel he was probably banking looking "up" (trying to find the B-17 that he thought was further down range because of a loss of situational awareness). He likely never saw it directly in front of him, hence no evasive maneuvers
Thank you. That is a lot more visibility than I would have thought.
Obvious it was some sort of accident since there is zero sm or friends reporting any issues. Just eerie.
Posted on 11/13/22 at 3:02 pm to Rhino5
quote:
BS. Most small aircraft ‘pilots’ are nothing more than average Joe’s looking for a thrill.
I wish FAA would get a strangle hold on pilot licenses. Flying an airplane isn’t the same as burning it up on a jet ski.
It appears the smaller plane pilot thought he could floor it and make the turn before hitting the bomber. Bad pilot.
You know the vast majority of airline pilots had to start in single-engine piston aircraft, right?
Nobody is "thrill seeking" in a cessna 172..
Posted on 11/13/22 at 3:24 pm to 777Tiger
Sorry to hear that about your colleagues....
Having flown on the Collings Foundation Nine-O-Nine which crashed a few years ago, this hits a bit. Been a fan of the B-17 since we got a copy of Edward Jablonski's book "Flying Fortress" when I was quite young; the book came out in 1968 (I am 59 now).
Condolences to all...
Having flown on the Collings Foundation Nine-O-Nine which crashed a few years ago, this hits a bit. Been a fan of the B-17 since we got a copy of Edward Jablonski's book "Flying Fortress" when I was quite young; the book came out in 1968 (I am 59 now).
Condolences to all...
This post was edited on 11/13/22 at 3:36 pm
Posted on 11/13/22 at 3:48 pm to Adam4LSU
quote:
Nobody is "thrill seeking" in a cessna 172..
A bottle of jack will change that.
Posted on 11/13/22 at 4:22 pm to Zarkinletch416
quote:
Oh my f*****g God" - An observer gone ghetto
Maybe, just maybe everyone aboard that B-17 were angels on everyone’s shoulders yesterday afternoon?
That video in particular shows that P-63 just slamming directly into the B-17, so much so, it just disintegrated instantly. From the multiple video angles available it sure seems conceivable if that pilot had become incapacitated and not collided with the B-17 it was on a collision course with that hangar/grandstand area where the general public was congregated?
I hope that pilot in the bi-plane on the runway was in church this morning, he may have been the luckiest man on the planet yesterday.
Posted on 11/13/22 at 4:35 pm to Dragula
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Sounds like two pilots in B17, 1 in the KingCobra, rest were spectators.
So 3 spectators on the ground were killed?
Posted on 11/13/22 at 4:36 pm to Boomdaddy65201
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I hope that pilot in the bi-plane on the runway was in church this morning, he may have been the luckiest man on the planet yesterday.
I thought that too, but I think it's a perspective thing. Looks like the majority of the wreck and big fireball were well behind the biplane in relation to the camera.
Posted on 11/13/22 at 4:41 pm to Funky Tide 8
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So 3 spectators on the ground were killed?
Flying in back of the B-17.
They do ride alongs a lot In those. Could have been friends/family or paying customers. It would still be a dream of mine to take a ride in one.
This post was edited on 11/13/22 at 4:43 pm
Posted on 11/13/22 at 4:47 pm to flyAU
Ahh gotcha. Thank you clarifying.
Posted on 11/13/22 at 4:50 pm to flyAU
Damn. RIP.
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