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re: axios - Remote work may not be working any more

Posted on 6/7/22 at 10:11 am to
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
25949 posts
Posted on 6/7/22 at 10:11 am to
As the recession gets worse, companies are going to start demanding that people return to work.
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 6/7/22 at 10:12 am to
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4 day workweek looking a lot less likely than a 6 day workweek. Too many old people, not enough workers.


Yea but we can print money for free.
Everything is fine.
Posted by TacoNash
Member since Mar 2020
715 posts
Posted on 6/7/22 at 10:12 am to
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As the recession gets worse, companies are going to start demanding that people return to work.


yes as the budgets get tighter employers are going to want to increase their office expenses.
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 6/7/22 at 10:14 am to
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yes as the budgets get tighter employers are going to want to increase their office expenses.


That’s not the point he is making. They are going to demand people return to work in hopes that they quit. Rather than having to fire or layoff people. It’s any easier way to cut lazy staff in a recession.
Posted by MJackson
Member since Dec 2006
1126 posts
Posted on 6/7/22 at 10:15 am to
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Good, remote work has ruined the rural real estate market. regular folks out here can barely afford to rent, let alone buy.


care to expound?
Posted by TacoNash
Member since Mar 2020
715 posts
Posted on 6/7/22 at 10:16 am to
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That’s not the point he is making. They are going to demand people return to work in hopes that they quit. Rather than having to fire or layoff people. It’s any easier way to cut lazy staff in a recession.


that's very possible and not a point I was considering. that's a risky strategy however.
Posted by winkchance
St. George, LA
Member since Jul 2016
5239 posts
Posted on 6/7/22 at 10:16 am to
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Now people are talking about going to a 4 day workweek.


Not very conducive to kids in school.
Posted by pelicansfan123
Member since Jan 2015
2202 posts
Posted on 6/7/22 at 10:18 am to
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As long as employees get their stuff done, IDGAF.


I'm not a supervisor, but I never understood the notion that everyone has to be butts in seats, 5 days a week, 8 hours a day, if there isn't enough work to do to warrant that.

If you're doing an effective job, unless it's egregious, why would I care if you were remote/in-person and/or working 40 hours vs 35 in a week?

Now, if the quality of work is slipping, that's another story.
This post was edited on 6/7/22 at 11:43 am
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
34877 posts
Posted on 6/7/22 at 10:21 am to

I'm on 4 9's and a 4 on Friday. It's easier than 4 10's. Fridays are really nothing and plenty of time to get stuff done.


Yea we do 9-80 schedule. 9 hours m-thursday, 8 on Friday and off every other Friday. Also have the option to do 5-8s or 4-9s and a 4.

I prefer the 4-9s and a 4. I don't do lunch so I work 7-4 usually during school year. Summer I do 630-330.

4-10s and unless you start early as frick, can't get kids to practice. 4-10s is perfect though if you don't have kids.
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
57829 posts
Posted on 6/7/22 at 10:25 am to
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. I don't do lunch so I work 7-4 usually during school year. Summer I do 630-330.
Damn i miss being an office baw

i mostly am working 6am-5-6:30pm 5-6 days a week. when i work an 8 hour day it feels like a half day.
Posted by Masterag
'Round Dallas
Member since Sep 2014
19568 posts
Posted on 6/7/22 at 10:26 am to
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care to expound?



home prices in my area have gone up 75% since covid hit. mass influxes of dallasites, californians and other out of state people have been driving up the housing market and pricing out local people.

with the exception of bankers, engineers, lawyers, doctors and other business owners, there aren't a lot of high paying professional jobs. corporate jobs out where i live are nonexistent.
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
57829 posts
Posted on 6/7/22 at 10:26 am to
i know it's crazy in the rural-ish areas around dallas, but i don't think most of true rural america is seeing any of that
Posted by TexasTiger90
Rocky Mountain High
Member since Jul 2014
3576 posts
Posted on 6/7/22 at 10:29 am to
The only thing that happens when they make us go into the office once a month is an inordinate amount of bullshitting and time wasting.
Posted by TacoNash
Member since Mar 2020
715 posts
Posted on 6/7/22 at 10:30 am to
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The only thing that happens when they make us go into the office once a month is an inordinate amount of bullshiteting and time wasting.


but how will the office stay productive without scheduling a meeting to prep for another meeting that's about some office HR bullshite
This post was edited on 6/7/22 at 10:31 am
Posted by Blaeke
Member since Dec 2016
1032 posts
Posted on 6/7/22 at 10:31 am to
Expect to see a consolidation of talent at remote-friendly corporations. Those with options, especially after experiencing the autonomy of remote work, aren't going to stay at companies requiring a return-to-office just to satisfy some antiquated butts-in-seats mentality driven by replaceable middle managers who either hate their families or are incapable of forming social connections outside of annoying people in the company breakroom.
Posted by The Egg
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2004
81855 posts
Posted on 6/7/22 at 10:32 am to
They're just trying to justify their lease agreements with the office building tbh, which is bs anyway
Posted by TacoNash
Member since Mar 2020
715 posts
Posted on 6/7/22 at 10:35 am to
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Expect to see a consolidation of talent at remote-friendly corporations. Those with options, especially after experiencing the autonomy of remote work, aren't going to stay at companies requiring a return-to-office just to satisfy some antiquated butts-in-seats mentality driven by replaceable middle managers who either hate their families or are incapable of forming social connections outside of annoying people in the company breakroom.


Walmart(corporate) is already stealin/recruiting talent this way and the old school corporations cant match.
This post was edited on 6/7/22 at 10:36 am
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
57829 posts
Posted on 6/7/22 at 10:36 am to
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satisfy some antiquated butts-in-seats mentality driven by replaceable middle managers


david solomon, elon musk, jamie dimon
Posted by Aubie Spr96
lolwut?
Member since Dec 2009
43230 posts
Posted on 6/7/22 at 10:37 am to
My software company is NEVER coming back to the office. Me and one of our IT guys are the only two that come to the office routinely at a corporate HQ that used to house 200+ people.

I will be turning in my notice soon. I can't fricking take it any more. There's another software company HQ'd here in a similar line of business. They offer a flex schedule. I may take a small pay cut, but it will be worth it to be part of a team again.

I know the OT loves work from home, but I can't fricking stand it. Honestly, I can't believe I made it two years. I kept thinking that when we reopened the office that at least some people would come back......
Posted by Masterag
'Round Dallas
Member since Sep 2014
19568 posts
Posted on 6/7/22 at 10:38 am to
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i know it's crazy in the rural-ish areas around dallas, but i don't think most of true rural america is seeing any of that



i'm about 2 hours from dallas, and home prices out here are with a 5-10% margin of comps in the city, without the corporate infrastructure. it's making life very difficult.
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