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re: Australia is combating African Gang problem as crime worsens

Posted on 3/12/18 at 11:06 am to
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
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Posted on 3/12/18 at 11:06 am to
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Almost impossible to read without hearing the Aussie accent



Glad I'm not the only one
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 3/12/18 at 11:07 am to
#diverstiyisourstrength
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 3/12/18 at 11:07 am to
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not necessarily.
I would venture to say it is a very very very safe bet, that on average, a far higher percent of homeowners/people who are robbed/etc etc are the ones who end up dead vs the actual criminal in gun owning countries.
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 3/12/18 at 11:08 am to
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Didn't the government only buy back around 20,000 guns? They estimate there are almost 300,000 guns still out there.
If that is true, it seems amazing they kept those guns out of these gangs hands
Posted by X123F45
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Posted on 3/12/18 at 11:11 am to
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Didn't the government only buy back around 20,000 guns? They estimate there are almost 300,000 guns still out there.



300k...

We have more than 300k guns in Louisiana. Hell we have 10x that many in Louisiana.
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 3/12/18 at 11:11 am to
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I would venture to say it is a very very very safe bet, that on average, a far higher percent of homeowners/people who are robbed/etc etc are the ones who end up dead vs the actual criminal in gun owning countries.



its pretty much shown by statistic that the gun bans dont really lessen murder rates. Harsher penalties and being tougher on crime deter at a far greater rate. A gun in a victims home at least gives them the ability to fight back.
Posted by X123F45
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Posted on 3/12/18 at 11:12 am to
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I would venture to say it is a very very very safe bet, that on average, a far higher percent of homeowners/people who are robbed/etc etc are the ones who end up dead vs the actual criminal in gun owning countries.



I'll take that action.

Allllllll day.
Posted by cwil177
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Posted on 3/12/18 at 11:14 am to
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its pretty much shown by statistic that the gun bans dont really lessen murder rates. Harsher penalties and being tougher on crime deter at a far greater rate. A gun in a victims home at least gives them the ability to fight back.

Citation needed
Posted by teke184
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Posted on 3/12/18 at 11:16 am to
Here is some advice for the gangs. Just walk away.

Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 3/12/18 at 11:18 am to
Posted by MrLSU
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Posted on 3/12/18 at 11:18 am to
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I mean yall are trying to poke fun at Australias gun ban, but this article kinda shows it is working These gangs would have caused far worse damage with guns........ ETA: I am not for banning guns here.


Gun violence in Australia has been proliferating.
LINK


NPR: Australia says Gun Amnesty netted 57,000 illegal guns
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 3/12/18 at 11:24 am to
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Citation needed


There are numerous studies and charts on the matter

In the early 90's the USA started handing out harsher penalties for violent crimes and drugs, plus the enactment of the 3 strikes laws. The murder trend in the US has decreased far more than any of the countries who enacted gun bans in the 90's
Posted by SabiDojo
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Posted on 3/12/18 at 11:30 am to
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If that is true, it seems amazing they kept those guns out of these gangs hands


Yeah I'd like to know more about it.

Comparing the US to Australia is plain silly though, imo. Even if you could, in practice, ban and confiscate all the guns, you can't do it here constitutionally.
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 3/12/18 at 11:32 am to
President Harris is gonna change that it 2021
Posted by MontyFranklyn
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Posted on 3/12/18 at 11:34 am to
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There are numerous studies and charts on the matter

In the early 90's the USA started handing out harsher penalties for violent crimes and drugs, plus the enactment of the 3 strikes laws. The murder trend in the US has decreased far more than any of the countries who enacted gun bans in the 90's

One alone doesn't have the affect desired. Several policies coinciding gets you to where you want to be. We just need to make a few slight adjustments and we'd be fine
Posted by SabiDojo
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Posted on 3/12/18 at 11:34 am to
She's going to turn AmeriKKKa into Wakanda.
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 3/12/18 at 11:34 am to
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We just need to make a few slight adjustments and we'd be fine

Go on...
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 3/12/18 at 11:38 am to
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She's going to turn AmeriKKKa into Wakanda.

we wuz gun free
Posted by biglego
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Posted on 3/12/18 at 12:15 pm to
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In the early 90's the USA started handing out harsher penalties for violent crimes and drugs, plus the enactment of the 3 strikes laws. The murder trend in the US has decreased far more than any of the countries who enacted gun bans in the 90's

Some say legalized abortions had the biggest effect
Posted by TheFonz
Somewhere in Louisiana
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Posted on 3/12/18 at 12:18 pm to
Muslim and Asian gangs were bad in western Sydney in the early 2000's...I don't think the situation has improved much there.
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