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re: ATL - Toddler Left in Car
Posted on 6/25/14 at 11:56 pm to East Coast Band
Posted on 6/25/14 at 11:56 pm to East Coast Band
i don't understand why you would be allowed to take a life insurance policy out on a child like that.
Obviously the insurance company wants to make money, but what are the policy holders saying they will need that money for if something happens to the kid?
Obviously the insurance company wants to make money, but what are the policy holders saying they will need that money for if something happens to the kid?
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Posted on 6/25/14 at 11:59 pm to SneakySally
The child should only have a burial policy if any insurance is involved.
It's not like someone would issue a 2 million dollar policy on a 22 month old.
It's not like someone would issue a 2 million dollar policy on a 22 month old.
Posted on 6/26/14 at 12:02 am to NbamaTiger90
i don't know how it works, but they shouldn't be allowed to. I take it the big insurance payout theory depends on more than a 20,000 burial policy or something like that.
Posted on 6/26/14 at 12:03 am to SneakySally
That's why I suggest that the only motive would be is for some type of fricked up preemptive strike in an impending divorce case.
I really think the state will have a difficult time showing motive.
I really think the state will have a difficult time showing motive.
Posted on 6/26/14 at 12:56 am to East Coast Band
Once the cops turn his life inside out, they'll find a motive, if there's one there. The things that immediately come to my mind are, in no particular order:
He was planning a divorce and didn't want to pay 16+ years of child support.
He has a girlfriend who didn't want anything to do with the child.
His wife is also a nut, and wanted some kind of "do-over" in life.
There was a financial motive - not necessarily life insurance.
The possibility also has to be considered that this guy is just a knucklehead who actually left his kid in the car by accident and then, although innocent of murder, acted very oddly in the aftermath. The smart money probably won't bet on this possibility.
He was planning a divorce and didn't want to pay 16+ years of child support.
He has a girlfriend who didn't want anything to do with the child.
His wife is also a nut, and wanted some kind of "do-over" in life.
There was a financial motive - not necessarily life insurance.
The possibility also has to be considered that this guy is just a knucklehead who actually left his kid in the car by accident and then, although innocent of murder, acted very oddly in the aftermath. The smart money probably won't bet on this possibility.
Posted on 6/26/14 at 1:36 am to CorkSoaker
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Shame on any lawyer that represents this piece of shite.
He'll likely get a public defender who will have to take the case or be fired.
Posted on 6/26/14 at 5:53 am to PuntBamaPunt
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The # of incidents notably increased when they required car seats to be moved from the passenger seat to the back and that infant car seats be turned around facing the rear.
That's when I realized that it isn't about our or our infants' safety. It is clearly just a demonstration of authority and ability to fine/tax/shoot our dogs.
Posted on 6/26/14 at 7:33 am to White Roach
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I'm not a lawyer, but I think a Public Defender can get theirself recused from a case, if there is some type of conflict of interest involved
This is more along the lines of what I was asking. I could have worded it better.
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It's sort of counterintuitive, but you want these kind of people to have a competent legal defense. Proper representation cuts down on their appellate options after conviction.
I see.
I've never been arrested or been to court. Hell, I've only had 1 speeding ticket and I'm 35.
I'm extremely unaware with how the legal system works. Posted on 6/26/14 at 7:52 am to GRITS79
the worst part of this aside from the poor child that was killed is the fact that if this guy is found to be guilty of murdering his child we wont be able to kill him on site.
The SOB will sit on death row for the next 20-25 years on the tax payers dime.
The SOB will sit on death row for the next 20-25 years on the tax payers dime.
Posted on 6/26/14 at 8:03 am to East Coast Band
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I really think the state will have a difficult time showing motive.
The state doesn't have to show motive.
All they have to show is that he did it intentionally. It is always helpful to have a clear cut why he did it too, but that is not an element of the crime and convictions are obtained without showing motive all the time.
Posted on 6/26/14 at 8:09 am to JustGetItRight
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All they have to show is that he did it intentionally. It is always helpful to have a clear cut why he did it too, but that is not an element of the crime and convictions are obtained without showing motive all the time.
Agreed, but showing intent in a case like this, where there is an obvious counter for several key inferences of intent, is far more difficult without motive. This is a case where motive will help a whole hell of a lot, I think.
Posted on 6/26/14 at 8:10 am to PepaSpray
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That's when I realized that it isn't about our or our infants' safety. It is clearly just a demonstration of authority and ability to fine/tax/shoot our dogs.
Can't let this one go.
You're just plain out wrong. There are numerous studies that have shown that rear facing seats are VASTLY safer for infants.
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As far as the front, the quickest way to kill your kid in an otherwise survivable crash is to have them in the front seat of an air bag equipped vehicle.
Posted on 6/26/14 at 8:24 am to beatbammer
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Cobb law enforcement source: Ross Harris claims he forgot about son in backseat during the .02 miles it took to get from restaurant to work.
This post was edited on 6/26/14 at 8:25 am
Posted on 6/26/14 at 8:33 am to Pettifogger
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This is a case where motive will help a whole hell of a lot
It ALWAYS helps. We always want to know why somebody did a terrible act - but the simple fact is that we don't always know.
In this case, if the reported facts are correct (internet search, Chick-fil-A, lunchtime visit) the evidence is probably going to be overwhelming and the why will get overshadowed by the horror of the what.
Posted on 6/26/14 at 8:39 am to JustGetItRight
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In this case, if the reported facts are correct (internet search, Chick-fil-A, lunchtime visit) the evidence is probably going to be overwhelming and the why will get overshadowed by the horror of the what.
I think it depends on how the evidence actually looks. Obviously that internet search from 2 months ago (and if he has a pet, for example) doesn't look as bad as if it was at 2PM the day of. If the security video shows him walking to his car, opening the door and tossing in a coffee cup, that's a lot different than lingering by the car, etc.
At minimum he looks like an absolutely clueless moron bordering on defying even extremely low expectations for adult awareness. Another couple pieces of evidence, or a motive, would obviously push it over the top.
Posted on 6/28/14 at 4:21 am to Pettifogger
Y'all see this update yet? Apparently the guy was searching on his computer for how long it would take an animal to die in a hot car.
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Guys in trouble now
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Guys in trouble now
Posted on 6/28/14 at 6:06 am to TheIndulger
That came out a few days ago
Posted on 6/28/14 at 6:36 am to TheIndulger
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Apparently the guy was searching on his computer for how long it would take an animal to die in a hot car.
If true, he's a sick individual.
Posted on 6/28/14 at 8:13 am to White Roach
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He has a girlfriend who didn't want anything to do with the child.
You must not have seen his picture. I think you can scratch the girlfriend theory off the list.
Besides he'll be a girlfriend after he gets in prison.
Posted on 6/28/14 at 8:52 am to Tempratt
COBB COUNTY, Ga. —
The Cobb man accused of leaving his toddler son in an SUV for seven hours researched child deaths inside vehicles, according to new documents obtained by the Atlanta Journal-Constitution.
Justin Harris has been held without bond at the Cobb County jail since the night of June 18, hours after 22-month-old Cooper Harris was declared dead in a shopping center parking lot. In addition to murder, Justin Harris has also been charged with second degree child cruelty, also a felony.
“During an interview with Justin, He stated that he recently researched, through the internet, child deaths inside vehicles and what temperature it needs to be for that to occur,” according to search warrants.“Justin stated that he was fearful that this could happen.”
The toddler's funeral is scheduled Saturday afternoon. Stay with Channel 2 Action News for updates on this developing story.
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution contributed to this report.
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The Cobb man accused of leaving his toddler son in an SUV for seven hours researched child deaths inside vehicles, according to new documents obtained by the Atlanta Journal-Constitution.
Justin Harris has been held without bond at the Cobb County jail since the night of June 18, hours after 22-month-old Cooper Harris was declared dead in a shopping center parking lot. In addition to murder, Justin Harris has also been charged with second degree child cruelty, also a felony.
“During an interview with Justin, He stated that he recently researched, through the internet, child deaths inside vehicles and what temperature it needs to be for that to occur,” according to search warrants.“Justin stated that he was fearful that this could happen.”
The toddler's funeral is scheduled Saturday afternoon. Stay with Channel 2 Action News for updates on this developing story.
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution contributed to this report.
LINK /
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