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re: ATL - Toddler Left in Car

Posted on 6/25/14 at 10:50 pm to
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
70010 posts
Posted on 6/25/14 at 10:50 pm to
quote:

Are public defenders required to take a case?


Seriously?

They defend murderers all the time.
Posted by GRITS79
Tiger Stadium
Member since Feb 2014
1396 posts
Posted on 6/25/14 at 10:52 pm to
I wasn't sure if it was required or if they did it by choice.


My bad.

And you still didn't answer my question.


Easier to be a smartass though.

This post was edited on 6/25/14 at 10:53 pm
Posted by Isabelle
Member since Jul 2012
2726 posts
Posted on 6/25/14 at 10:52 pm to
I agree.
Posted by Kcoyote
Member since Jan 2012
12050 posts
Posted on 6/25/14 at 11:00 pm to
Management Information Systems. I honestly think he wasn't thinking anyone wouldn't believe his story. Most of the internet actually did believe it until more news broke.
Posted by White Roach
Member since Apr 2009
9666 posts
Posted on 6/25/14 at 11:07 pm to
Supposedly, he googled "how long does it take to kill an animal in a car" (or something similar. He didn't search "killing a 22 month old.) on his work computer. I don't know when this search allegedly took place.
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
70010 posts
Posted on 6/25/14 at 11:14 pm to
I wasn't being a smartass I was really asking if you were being serious

If I knew the Miranda rights I would quote them but it goes something like this...if you can't afford counsel, counsel will be provided...
Posted by White Roach
Member since Apr 2009
9666 posts
Posted on 6/25/14 at 11:16 pm to
GRITS:
I'm not a lawyer, but I think a Public Defender can get theirself recused from a case, if there is some type of conflict of interest involved. But, generally speaking, i think they deal with a lot of people who've done some pretty heinous shite. He won't have a problem getting competent legal representation. If he doesn't, that's grounds for appeal...

It's sort of counterintuitive, but you want these kind of people to have a competent legal defense. Proper representation cuts down on their appellate options after conviction.
Posted by TigerNAtux
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2007
18622 posts
Posted on 6/25/14 at 11:19 pm to
I was just curious. Trying to give the guy benefit of the doubt.

If he googled it after he went to his car at lunch, maybe he realized at that point the child was dead, panicked, and was trying to cover it up from there.

I don't know. It's just so unconceivable that a father could do that to his own child. I'm grasping at straws.
Posted by NbamaTiger90
Member since Sep 2012
1752 posts
Posted on 6/25/14 at 11:32 pm to
quote:

I'm grasping at straws.


I can't feel any ill will towards any view point at this time. It seems that nothing seems to register right now. good, bad or indifferent. Did he do it, I don't know. If he did, nothing I can fathom is harsh enough for him to suffer.

I think about my babies and what I would do if someone did this to them. NO ONE could stop me from killing this guy if he did this to my babies. He would beg for days upon days for me to kill him. It's just too much to even think about.
Posted by LSUMJ
BR
Member since Sep 2004
20767 posts
Posted on 6/25/14 at 11:33 pm to
does his mugshot look like a guy whose baby died in a horrible way? how would you not be in tears the entire booking process?


Posted by White Roach
Member since Apr 2009
9666 posts
Posted on 6/25/14 at 11:33 pm to
Your explanation is plausible. Especially when you consider that the couple of posters who know this guy are completely befuddled that the person they knew could possibly murder his son.

I honestly hope that this guy has mega-ADD, walks around in a half-conscious and perpetually oblivious state, and also has a history of never doing well in a crisis situation. Because the logical explanation is that he murdered his young son for some type of personal gain.
Posted by White Roach
Member since Apr 2009
9666 posts
Posted on 6/25/14 at 11:38 pm to
After looking at that mugshot, I'm taking the "another woman" motive off of the table. I can't believe this guy got one woman to frick him, much less two.
Posted by NbamaTiger90
Member since Sep 2012
1752 posts
Posted on 6/25/14 at 11:39 pm to
I should go to bed. That picture alone makes me want to make him suffer a horrible death. He is a piece of shite mother f ucker. They should broadcast him getting fricked up every day in prison as a reminder to not be a piece of shite like he is.
Posted by QJenk
Atl, Ga
Member since Jan 2013
17567 posts
Posted on 6/25/14 at 11:43 pm to
This whole situation sucks,really bad. It can happen to anyone. But it will not happen to 99% of people. I just wonder what could have been distracting this mans mind for so long that he let 8 hours go by before remembering

I can sort of relate. I don't have kids, but I have 4 nieces and nephews who I babysit from time to time. So I was taking my nephew to stay the night with me. He is in the backseat sleep. All I can think about is how bad I need to use the bathroom. And how sleepy I was. So when I got home, I hurried into the bathroom, took a shower. And I was about to cozy into my bed when HOLY shite WHAT HAVE I DONE?!!?

Luckily the car was not too hot or anything so he was fine. And he slept the whole time. But the fact that I left my baby nephew in the car for a full 20 minutes still gets to me. I know now that I have to be that much careful for now on. Live and you learn.
Posted by ornagestorm
Oregon
Member since Jun 2008
5105 posts
Posted on 6/25/14 at 11:49 pm to
Has the toxicology report came back?
Posted by SneakySally
Member since Oct 2013
328 posts
Posted on 6/25/14 at 11:49 pm to
I don't know the guy but from previous description I am pretty sure he majored in MIS at Alabama, had a friend that finished it up a few years ago
Posted by lsunurse
Member since Dec 2005
129146 posts
Posted on 6/25/14 at 11:51 pm to
quote:

This whole situation sucks,really bad. It can happen to anyone. But it will not happen to 99% of people. I just wonder what could have been distracting this mans mind for so long that he let 8 hours go by before remembering



Ummm, have you not read the updates? It's very possible the dad murdered his child and used the "oh I forgot him in the car" as a coverup.
Posted by IonaTiger
The Commonwealth Of Virginia
Member since Mar 2006
33303 posts
Posted on 6/25/14 at 11:53 pm to
When I first heard this story I thought, "how can he possibly live with himself after making such a mistake?"

If he did it on purpose, he should be executed.
Posted by East Coast Band
Member since Nov 2010
66950 posts
Posted on 6/25/14 at 11:54 pm to
Kids are forgotten way more than you ever hear. What about winter time? You only hear these stories due to the heat in the summer.
Plus all the near misses.

But, with that, it sure is a near perfect alibi to off a child.
I can accept the previously posted theory about him driving around some, etc. and dramaticizing it.
But what motive can the state come up with other than some big time life insurance policy, though no one does that much for a child, or an impending divorce?
Posted by NbamaTiger90
Member since Sep 2012
1752 posts
Posted on 6/25/14 at 11:54 pm to
His Holy shite moment was at lunch, when his child was not dead like he had intended. If you can't remember that you have a dependent human being in your back seat then you don't need to have a dependent human being in your back seat.

This is not some goddamned punchline that "I forgot my kid when it was 72 deg outside" This mother f ucker cooked his 22 month old child for some reason. I hope he spends the next 50 years getting the f uck kicked out of him on a daily basis.
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