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re: At what point will we determine that people being out of work is worse than the virus?
Posted on 3/16/20 at 5:56 pm to ShamelessPel
Posted on 3/16/20 at 5:56 pm to ShamelessPel
Or at very low risk and not scared
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Posted on 3/16/20 at 6:02 pm to OKtiger
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recovering from a serious lung infection
What is the frequency of this complication from Covid 19? <5% of confirmed cases?
Pretty simply math suggests that shutting down the economy like we are will have a much larger impact then letting the disease run its course. This will not disappear in a month or two. Vaccines take years of clinical trials and no company is going to take a risk on a vaccine that hasn’t been through multiple trials. For healthy people, it could be a better approach to go ahead and fight the virus and get it over with vs living in fear of the what if’s that people like you suggest.
Also, having a moratorium on bills doesn’t negate what’s owed. eventually all money due needs to be paid, which puts people in an even worse position.
This post was edited on 3/16/20 at 6:04 pm
Posted on 3/16/20 at 6:04 pm to OKtiger
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There's also real data and examples of economic collapses causing major public health challenges.
And that's completely fair. It's why there are economic relief/stimulus packages in place for people to cover their expenses for a month out of work.
We're pretty quickly running out of levers to pull.
You also need to have some velocity throughout the economy to start raising the funds for that scale of relief. Deep recessions and depressions also bring a behemoth of human suffering with them on their own; higher UE, credit freezes, and so on beget their own problems, their own deaths, their own suffering.
The people asking these questions might be a bit crude about it, but they are completely fair questions to ask. At some point there is a trade off that's not worth it; it's the entire reason concepts like VSL and QALY exist. If this thing starts grinding past six weeks or so, the economic suffering is going to be bad enough to start thinking about these problems very differently.
Posted on 3/16/20 at 6:10 pm to OKtiger
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Those same people you mention probably don't have health insurance
No one is going to take you seriously if you keep making outrageously false statements like this.
Posted on 3/16/20 at 6:13 pm to Golfer
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That's what I love about this guy, he's forgetting the points he's making:
- Loose a month's pay. But you can take out a loan!
- Get admitted to the hospital. No way to pay it back.
He’s defeated his own argument so many times I’ve lost track.
Posted on 3/16/20 at 6:22 pm to AbuTheMonkey
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We're pretty quickly running out of levers to pull.
Realistically, we ran out this past weekend.
Posted on 3/16/20 at 6:22 pm to OKtiger
The overwhelming majority of cases, won’t require hospitalizations. You’re point is terribly bad.
Nearly 80% of people live paycheck to paycheck. I’ll be generous and say maybe 10% of that 80% would rack up a hospital bill.
If this thing was putting everyone out of commission for two weeks who got it, you may have a valid argument. Its simply not, nowhere close in fact
Nearly 80% of people live paycheck to paycheck. I’ll be generous and say maybe 10% of that 80% would rack up a hospital bill.
If this thing was putting everyone out of commission for two weeks who got it, you may have a valid argument. Its simply not, nowhere close in fact
Posted on 3/16/20 at 6:32 pm to OKtiger
the democrats are loving this. they don't care how much money they lose in the stock markets. as long as they can make Trump look bad. this virus was all planned.just as soon as the impeachment backfired it was set in motion.
Posted on 3/16/20 at 6:39 pm to OKtiger
quote:this.
If that is not the answer, just wait to see what will happen when you let the virus spread out of control
Posted on 3/16/20 at 6:44 pm to OKtiger
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Being out of a job for a month with medical debt and recovering from a serious lung infection >>> Being out of a job for a month and healthy
I think What he is actually saying is
Guaranteed to be out of a job for a month and healthy<<<<<< Having about a 1% chance of being out of a job for a month with medical debt and recovering from a serious lung infection
Posted on 3/16/20 at 6:53 pm to otowntiger
0.006% of China’s population got the virus. It obviously doesn’t spread as easily as some of you want it to
82,000 out of 1.4 Billion
82,000 out of 1.4 Billion
Posted on 3/16/20 at 6:55 pm to WaydownSouth
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0.006% of China’s population got the virus. It obviously doesn’t spread as easily as some of you want it to
82,000 out of 1.4 Billion
Shhhh
Dont bring facts and shite in here.
Posted on 3/16/20 at 7:00 pm to OKtiger
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You have seen from any economic disaster ever, that when a large amount of people are jobless/ruined, people die, people don't show up to work.If we wait until it's bad, our economy will be ruined and people will be out of work for years
It works this way too.
Posted on 3/16/20 at 7:01 pm to SidewalkTiger
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Shhhh
Dont bring facts and shite in here.
RELEASE THE DOOMCASTERS!
*BAROOOO BAROOOOOO*
Posted on 3/16/20 at 7:12 pm to countrytiger60
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this virus was all planned.just as soon as the impeachment backfired it was set in motion.
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