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re: Astronauts are travelling at 17,500 mph (5mi/sec) when they do space walks outside the ISS

Posted on 9/28/24 at 8:39 am to
Posted by Mr Breeze
The Lunatic Fringe
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 9/28/24 at 8:39 am to
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Imagine being the first astronaut jumping out of a space craft untethered and leaving your fate to Newton's First Law of motion

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Didn't read anything after this

Space isn't moving

Newton's law isn't working in space

Keep believing that govt education

To be fair, there's no practical reason for the average high school or college student to understand how Newton improved Kepler's laws of planetary motion (amazingly accurate at solar system scales and beyond), why the ISS is moving at 17,500 mph, the importance of Lagrange Points and why the James Webb scope is orbiting at L2, and reasons for GPS satellite cesium beam clock time corrections per Einstein's relativistic theories, mainly related to time dilation.

Physics and some engineering students yes, for students outside those disciplines that knowledge is interesting but unnecessary. Practically, IMO trig by itself is sufficient and useful for life long use. Classical mechanics, calculus or quantum theory, not so much.

The OP's statements are correct; yours are not.

If you disagree, then your thoughts to reconcile Einsteinian space-time gravity with quantum theory would be very interesting, the Holy Grail "Theory of Everything" in physics.

Or, a simpler problem is why it would be so difficult to establish a GPS system orbiting our moon, a NASA thought experiment for many years.



Good luck.
Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
55994 posts
Posted on 9/28/24 at 8:47 am to
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Could the ISS fly a drone outside?


Not a drone with propellers.

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Propellers create thrust by changing the air pressure between the front and back of the propeller blade. Since space is a vacuum, there is no air to create this pressure difference, so the propeller can't move the plane forward.
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21402 posts
Posted on 9/28/24 at 8:57 am to
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Interestingly, despite traveling at about 17,500 mph (28,000 km/h), astronauts don't feel this speed during spacewalks.


The same thing happens on earth as we orbit the sun. I like to think this isn't news to most people with a brain, with the current rate of decline that's optimistic.
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21402 posts
Posted on 9/28/24 at 8:59 am to
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Newton's law isn't working in space




Alright Einstein, which set of your physics do work in space?
Posted by Yewkindewit
Near Birmingham, Alabama
Member since Apr 2012
21051 posts
Posted on 9/28/24 at 9:00 am to
Tell that to Flat Earthers…….. Pffffttt!
Posted by AUCom96
Alabama
Member since May 2020
6104 posts
Posted on 9/28/24 at 9:04 am to
Posted by Chucktown_Badger
The banks of the Ashley River
Member since May 2013
33843 posts
Posted on 9/28/24 at 9:26 am to
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if earth is moving at 67000 mph, how are they moving that much slower without being left behind forever? relativity?


Gravity
Posted by FreezingBitches
Member since Sep 2024
588 posts
Posted on 9/28/24 at 9:39 am to
Ummm

Are there equal reactions in space?

Newtons law is applied to gravity


Does "what goes up must come down" apply outside if gravity?

Now let's talk about G force outside of gravity, professor.

Oh, what's that G stand for?
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
65899 posts
Posted on 9/28/24 at 9:44 am to
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outside of gravity


What does outside of gravity mean?
Posted by MidWestGuy
Illinois
Member since Nov 2018
1450 posts
Posted on 9/28/24 at 9:45 am to
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Imagine being the first astronaut jumping out of a space craft untethered and leaving your fate to Newton's First Law of motion (Law of Inertia):


I can guarantee you that the very LAST thing on these educated astronauts mind as they stepped out was that they were "leaving their fate to the laws of physics".

That's like you saying you were worried that when you lifted the sheets off your bed this AM, you were afraid you might fly up to the ceiling and get stuck there, 'cause maybe gravity would fail.
Posted by Grievous Angel
Tuscaloosa, AL
Member since Dec 2008
10292 posts
Posted on 9/28/24 at 9:46 am to
I'm watching gameday and I'm traveling 66,627 mph.
Posted by MidWestGuy
Illinois
Member since Nov 2018
1450 posts
Posted on 9/28/24 at 9:48 am to
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What does outside of gravity mean?


You know, like Groucho Marx explained: "Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside of a dog it's too dark to read."

Posted by FreezingBitches
Member since Sep 2024
588 posts
Posted on 9/28/24 at 9:50 am to
What does outside of sunlight mean?
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
65899 posts
Posted on 9/28/24 at 9:59 am to
Where in the universe are you not being impacted by a gravitational field?
Posted by Mr Breeze
The Lunatic Fringe
Member since Dec 2010
6502 posts
Posted on 9/28/24 at 10:00 am to
Posted by Wraytex
San Antonio - Gonzales
Member since Jun 2020
2886 posts
Posted on 9/28/24 at 10:06 am to
Dark Star covered this 40 years ago.

Space Surfing
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
19062 posts
Posted on 9/28/24 at 10:10 am to
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You forget about that force called gravity?


Yeah, somehow the astronauts are caught up in the whole earth/sun gravitational thing but they have enough velocity to have escaped the whole earth/astronaut gravitational thing. Dunno.
Posted by wallowinit
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2006
15957 posts
Posted on 9/28/24 at 10:11 am to
So you believe that the forces on an object in a weightless environment (or in “space”) act differently than the forces on an object otherwise.

Is that what I’m reading?

If so you failed physics.

Sadly most people believe an object orbiting the earth is actually massless somehow.
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
19062 posts
Posted on 9/28/24 at 10:13 am to
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Sadly most people believe an object orbiting the earth is actually massless somehow.


No, it is just traveling fast enough to escape the force pulling it back down to earth.
Posted by Mr Breeze
The Lunatic Fringe
Member since Dec 2010
6502 posts
Posted on 9/28/24 at 10:13 am to
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