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re: Asking for prayers for my dad **UPDATE, want to thank TD nation**

Posted on 8/18/21 at 3:28 pm to
Posted by oleyeller
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Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 8/18/21 at 3:28 pm to
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I struggle


Well, it shows
Posted by Got Blaze
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Posted on 8/18/21 at 3:31 pm to
prayers being sent brother
Posted by Salmon
On the trails
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 8/18/21 at 3:31 pm to
All I ask, is that before you run around chanting PT talking points, is that you just do the very basic level of research yourself on what you are saying.

It's all I ask.
Posted by purpgoldblood
stick
Member since Oct 2005
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Posted on 8/18/21 at 3:32 pm to
Ochsner posts daily updated stats showing consistently close to 90% hospitalized are unvaccinated(today’s update had it at 88% actually)
I’m not seeing on the CDC’s site any severe Covid vaccine side effects that are of statistical significance
So let’s dive into it….. which numbers in VAERS demonstrate all these deaths and severe side effects?
Instead is just saying look at VAERS which numbers on VAERS are you referencing?
Posted by Cosmo
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Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 8/18/21 at 3:33 pm to
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I know 3 very well respected physicians who are not vaccinated. 2 of them are likely to be suspended by Oct 1 if they do not get vaccinated.


I know a few. Only 1 of them parrots the PT antivacc stuff. Hes an old surgeon

The others all previously had covid and natural immunity is a reasonable excuse to not get vaccine IMO

If it was me I would get the full broad antibody/T cell assay to see exactly where my natural immunity stood though.
This post was edited on 8/18/21 at 3:35 pm
Posted by tiger91
In my own little world
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Posted on 8/18/21 at 3:35 pm to
So how does one go about that and any idea on cost?? Seriously curious.
Posted by jchamil
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 8/18/21 at 3:35 pm to
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The others all previously had covid and natural immunity is a reasonable excuse to not get vaccine IMO



Which do you think provides the better immunity? The shot or having caught it and getting natural immunity? Just curious, I got the second pfizer shot Monday
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
33667 posts
Posted on 8/18/21 at 3:35 pm to
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For the following reason:

Flu vaccine is not politized.
Flu vaccine is shown to be safe and not under emergency use authorization.
Flu vaccine is not mandated or moving toward mandates.
I'm talking about the hospitalizations and deaths. That for sure would have shown up on the OT if it had been a reality.
Posted by calcotron
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 8/18/21 at 3:39 pm to
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So let’s dive into it….. which numbers in VAERS demonstrate all these deaths and severe side effects?
Instead is just saying look at VAERS which numbers on VAERS are you referencing?

Are you saying it's hard to filter for the covid vaccines? It's not. Are you saying the data is unverified? So if there are thousands of potential deaths, entered by doctors and likely vastly under reported, do you not think that should be deeply looked into before (more) people are forced to get it? I'm not even saying the vaccine doesn't work. I'm saying if there are deaths caused by any product you better damn well understand it and not make it mandatory that anyone risk death.
Posted by Cosmo
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Posted on 8/18/21 at 3:39 pm to
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Which do you think provides the better immunity? The shot or having caught it and getting natural immunity? Just curious, I got the second pfizer shot Monday


Natural immunity CAN be better but it is more unpredictable. Our ID guy says about 1/3 get a strong immune response providing immunity probably better than vaccine, 1/3 about the same as vaccine and 1/3 clear the virus with almost no immune response

The vaccine provides a more predictable and universal immune response
Posted by purpgoldblood
stick
Member since Oct 2005
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Posted on 8/18/21 at 3:43 pm to
Nope
I’m saying there are not 1000s of deaths caused by the vaccines reported by doctors
If there were, then yes darn straight we would pump the brakes on such treatment options.
But there aren’t
Vaccines are a type of immunotherapy and severe side effects, especially fatal ones, have always been extremely rare with vaccine therapy. This situation looks to be no different.
Posted by Cosmo
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Posted on 8/18/21 at 3:43 pm to
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So if there are thousands of potential deaths, entered by doctors


ANYBODY can put a report on VAERS

I suspect its getting flooded with bullshite and there should be a more legitimate resource for adverse events
This post was edited on 8/18/21 at 3:43 pm
Posted by purpgoldblood
stick
Member since Oct 2005
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Posted on 8/18/21 at 3:44 pm to
So many variables in natural response such as immune status, severity of illness, viral load of exposure and on and on
Posted by jchamil
Member since Nov 2009
16597 posts
Posted on 8/18/21 at 3:50 pm to
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ANYBODY can put a report on VAERS


I've made a report on VAERS, but I was actually told to by doctors at LeBonheur Children's. They gave me paperwork describing what it was and how to get online and make the report

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I suspect its getting flooded with bullshite and there should be a more legitimate resource for adverse events


All I got was a follow up email to clear up a couple of things I didn't know when I reported originally. I have no idea if anyone followed up with the pediatrician or how else they verified what I filed was true
Posted by ghost2most
Member since Mar 2012
6725 posts
Posted on 8/18/21 at 3:52 pm to
It looks like the tide is slowly turning on this board as more and more people start being infected and/or losing loved ones.

Pretty sad it had to come to this when there was easy, free, safe way to avoid serious illness.

Antivaxxers and the misinformation they share is downright criminal.

If anyone is on the fence, just look at this board - the most vocal antivaxxers are the same people who believed the Krakken was going to get broughten.

Hey you dumb fricks, even Trump got the vaccine.

Hmm, should I get the vax? The stupidest motherfricker on this forum, Chad504boi is against it. Decision made!
Posted by Cosmo
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Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 8/18/21 at 3:55 pm to
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Hmm, should I get the vax? The stupidest motherfricker on this forum, Chad504boi is against it. Decision made!


Sig quote material

I believe peeej is against it as well
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
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Posted on 8/18/21 at 3:59 pm to
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White and asian males with slightly above average resumes will struggle to get into a traditional US medical school
Would a 3.58 and a 30 on the MCAT get in these days?
This post was edited on 8/18/21 at 4:01 pm
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 8/18/21 at 4:01 pm to
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If anyone is on the fence, just look at this board - the most vocal antivaxxers are the same people who believed the Krakken was going to get broughten.

Hey you dumb fricks, even Trump got the vaccine.

Hmm, should I get the vax? The stupidest motherfricker on this forum, Chad504boi is against it. Decision made!




Pwning the libs by watching my parents die!
Posted by Cosmo
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Member since Oct 2003
120596 posts
Posted on 8/18/21 at 4:02 pm to
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Would a 3.58 and a 30 on the MCAT get in these days?


Very borderline. Unless your other application stuff is really strong probably not. Youd be headed DO or Caribbean

Though I think they recently changed the MCAT scale, im not sure what is good anymore
This post was edited on 8/18/21 at 4:03 pm
Posted by obdobd918
Member since Jun 2020
3228 posts
Posted on 8/18/21 at 4:05 pm to
Try to get Ivermectin for him. It has helped many people regardless of what the lying media says.
In his state it could be too late, but contact Americas frontline doctors and see what they recommend or ask some of his Dr friends to get it for him. IF they say it does not work, tell then "Nothing else has worked why not try it"

If one does not get the vax, they need Ivermectin.
A Dr in Chile claims that if a person gets Ivermectin within 5 days of getting covid, it has been 100% effective.
His hospital prescribes it and he recommends PCPs prescribe it.
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