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re: As JPMorgan Chase enforces a 5-day RTO, staffers complain about too few desks, spotty Wi-F
Posted on 3/10/25 at 4:26 pm to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 3/10/25 at 4:26 pm to SlowFlowPro
Answering some of the open questions posed in this thread. I don't work for Chase:
-Their hybrid schedule article quoted doesn't detail that Chase shrunk their office footprint since COVID. Closing and consolidating office space post-COVID while having mostly similar staff numbers means desk competition. There are enough desks overall but people may have to sit with other teams, or even different buildings, thus losing a major part of in-office collaboration opportunities. Some members are in-office and on online meetings with people in a different office.
-Their hybrid schedule worked before because teams in large centers alternated when they would come into the office. Example: some teams came Monday & Thursday. Others may have been Tuesday & Friday.
All said, if staff isn't wanting to make it work they will find reasons why it cannot.
-Their hybrid schedule article quoted doesn't detail that Chase shrunk their office footprint since COVID. Closing and consolidating office space post-COVID while having mostly similar staff numbers means desk competition. There are enough desks overall but people may have to sit with other teams, or even different buildings, thus losing a major part of in-office collaboration opportunities. Some members are in-office and on online meetings with people in a different office.
-Their hybrid schedule worked before because teams in large centers alternated when they would come into the office. Example: some teams came Monday & Thursday. Others may have been Tuesday & Friday.
All said, if staff isn't wanting to make it work they will find reasons why it cannot.
This post was edited on 3/10/25 at 4:38 pm
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Posted on 3/10/25 at 4:29 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
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Mingo Was His NameO
Posted on 3/10/25 at 4:32 pm to NIH
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Aren’t you a cpa?
Senior VP but engineer by trade.
Posted on 3/10/25 at 4:33 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
I support a business’ right to mandate rto but it’s pretty bad if there truly aren’t enough desks because they downsized
Posted on 3/10/25 at 4:38 pm to Big Scrub TX
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And then ALSO on days when I have a medical appointment or a worker coming to the house or whatever, as I am seamlessly integrating that into a solid WFH day where I avoided the worst commute day of the week, I think "How could we have gone so many years without doing it this way?".
It's kinda funny thinking about how I used to work for companies that required paperwork and PTO for a freakin end-of-day doctor's appointment.
Our person in charge of HR-type tasks (we don't have actual HR) would be absolutely miserable if they had to deal with that much paperwork. It's easier to just staff good folks and let them manage their workday as they see fit.
We have mostly been very lucky with the people we hire.
Posted on 3/10/25 at 4:40 pm to LouisianaLady
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God, I miss the days of simple phone calls. Whyyyyyy have we normalized being on video with every single person we take a call with?
I can stay better focused on what’s being said when it’s audio only for one on one or group calls, and if something visual is needed then just add the ability to share desktop screens to everyone else on call.
This post was edited on 3/10/25 at 8:17 pm
Posted on 3/10/25 at 4:46 pm to el Gaucho
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It really makes you what work from homers are doing on their computers all day if they’re so afraid to go to work
Making the revenue that allows blue collars project further on how driving a forklift makes them a master of the construction arts.
Posted on 3/10/25 at 4:48 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
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“Come to work, but we offloaded office space during covid, so you may not have a place to sit. Don’t like it, get here by 7am, but remember, no leaving early, we’re back in the office full time.”
Holy shite, the HORRRRROR!!!!
I support private companies doing whatever they want in regards to WFH and letting the free market sort out winners and losers, but man the melt from WFH people being told to RTO is so funny to me. Must be horrible for you guys...you know getting to work at a standard start time and like....staying there all day.
Reading further in the thread, I didn't even think about how horrible it is for people to like.....see you when youre working. So fked up amirite.
This post was edited on 3/10/25 at 4:55 pm
Posted on 3/10/25 at 4:56 pm to Pendulum
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you know getting to work at a standard start time and like....staying there all day.
That’s fine, but don’t be upset when I clock out at 5 and leave my computer at my desk
Posted on 3/10/25 at 5:01 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
Bro, you're an expendable worker bee making 100k/year. Stop pretending like you're an asset to your F500 company. Your company doesn't give two damns about you.
Now get back to the office and stop complaining.
Now get back to the office and stop complaining.
Posted on 3/10/25 at 5:01 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
That's fine, unless of course it isn't fine with your employer, in which case they can either deal with it if they cant replace you, stop promoting you if you arent providing what they want, or fire you and hire someone else. Pretty simple.
This post was edited on 3/10/25 at 5:02 pm
Posted on 3/10/25 at 5:03 pm to Pendulum
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That's fine, unless of course it isn't fine with your employer, in which case they can either deal with it if they cant replace you, stop promoting you if you arent providing what they want, or fire you and hire someone else. Pretty simple.
Being a corporate shill isn’t how I prefer to go through life, but do whatever makes you feel good
Posted on 3/10/25 at 5:06 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
To each their own, you have your options as well:
Keep working within your employers parameters, keep working outside parameters and wait to be fired, or quit.
It's not all that complicated. No need to get worked up about it, you don't have to be a shill.
Good news is we live in a capitalistic society, so all this arguing really doesn't matter, you don't have to convince anyone of anything. WFH is either something that is beneficial to some employee-employer relationships that stays around in our market and is available as an option, or it isn't. It's not like it will disappear simply because the Man is mean. If it's the wrong move to RTO, those companies will pay for it.
Keep working within your employers parameters, keep working outside parameters and wait to be fired, or quit.
It's not all that complicated. No need to get worked up about it, you don't have to be a shill.
Good news is we live in a capitalistic society, so all this arguing really doesn't matter, you don't have to convince anyone of anything. WFH is either something that is beneficial to some employee-employer relationships that stays around in our market and is available as an option, or it isn't. It's not like it will disappear simply because the Man is mean. If it's the wrong move to RTO, those companies will pay for it.
This post was edited on 3/10/25 at 5:11 pm
Posted on 3/10/25 at 5:10 pm to BabyTac
I do both.
I told them I'm not going back to the office there is literally zero reason to go in. And you know what they let me stay work from home when you provide your worth you get rewarded.
I dont have to spend 1h20min commuting I don't have to loose 1h and 20 min of my life not doing what I want, I don't have to spend money on gas and wear on my truck.
Just because you are a miserable slob and want everyone else to be like you so you can frick off.
I told them I'm not going back to the office there is literally zero reason to go in. And you know what they let me stay work from home when you provide your worth you get rewarded.
I dont have to spend 1h20min commuting I don't have to loose 1h and 20 min of my life not doing what I want, I don't have to spend money on gas and wear on my truck.
Just because you are a miserable slob and want everyone else to be like you so you can frick off.
This post was edited on 3/11/25 at 5:47 am
Posted on 3/10/25 at 5:13 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
I give it 90 days until they come out and say less work is getting done now than in the past.
Posted on 3/10/25 at 5:15 pm to POTUS2024
The workers bitching about this don't realize that a lot of these companies are using this as a silent layoff. They want employees to either quit or become less productive so they can fire them
Posted on 3/10/25 at 5:19 pm to TheOcean
quote:this right here
They want employees to either quit or become less productive so they can fire them
Posted on 3/10/25 at 5:30 pm to TheOcean
quote:or maybe they just want a desk if they have to go back to the office
The workers bitching about this don't realize that a lot of these companies are using this as a silent layoff. They want employees to either quit or become less productive so they can fire them
Posted on 3/10/25 at 5:39 pm to LouisianaLady
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Like, someone getting their hair done at a salon. Someone aggressively eating a popsicle. Someone's entire living room area.
Part of the reason
Posted on 3/10/25 at 5:42 pm to LouisianaLady
quote:Nothing in any endeavor of life at all can replace quality people acting in good faith.
It's easier to just staff good folks and let them manage their workday as they see fit.
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