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Posted on 10/29/20 at 3:36 pm to NPComb
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Mr Miyagi was a prick but the other dude was the only person threatening. The arrest is completely unconstitutional.
Ng's speech fits within the Arizona DC statute the reaction of the black man actually strengthens the case. If someone wants to contest it on constitutional grounds they could but would likely lose.
Posted on 10/29/20 at 3:54 pm to OweO
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Also, I don't like the way he operates. He knows exactly how to get the reaction he wants out of his followers, which are millions of people. That's a lot of power, which I think he weaponizes to used in his best interest.
Sorta like Democrats & welfare?
Posted on 10/29/20 at 4:14 pm to whoisnickdoobs
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Except this happened during Trump's presidency. People who say this sound so stupid.
A Biden America is a shot across the bow at people who vote for Democrats, specifically Joe in this election. True!
What do I mean?
Democrats' mindset = Throw white supremacy groups in jail
"because there is no longer room for that in our country"
versus
A Trump country, or his supporters are the voices who believe:
"I don't agree with the racial slurs, but they have they right to believe and say what they want in our free country"
Thus the consequences shouldn't be jail...for free speech.
Have you heard some hard core rap music before? Good lord it's nasty...
meanwhile we have white punks in Seattle and Portland spitting and calling police the N word, (even black police men and women) pig, die, racist and the rest of their BS...and nothing happens to them.
But a whitey tosses a few N words towards common black people and they arrest him?
when this happens, I say that's Democrat ideologue pushing that stupidity...
Thus a Biden Country...if he is elected, expect a great deal more of it in our future
Posted on 10/29/20 at 4:23 pm to Obtuse1
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Someone is following an 87yo little lady down the road and screaming at her she is a whore. They do it every time she leaves her home.
I think most people would agree there should be a legal limit to this. Now if you do agree this is beyond the scope of the protection of FOS when there is a line between what NG did and this hypo.
I do think there should be a limit to harassment like that described in the hypo, and I do think there is a line somewhere between that hypo and what Ng did.
Posted on 10/29/20 at 4:23 pm to lsuwontonwrap
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so, you're cool with racial slurs? ...k
so, you're cool with Stalinist/Maoist totalitarianism, murdering innocent children and killing baby seals with a club to the head?...k
Posted on 10/29/20 at 4:24 pm to Jcorye1
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They will argue he was threatening.
It was the other guy who threatened physical violence and, actually, both said the n-word.
Ng may be an awful person, but that's not against the law. He should not have been arrested.
Posted on 10/29/20 at 4:40 pm to SpotCheckBilly
I was in a local store recently where there was rap music playing. Every other word was Effin N. No joke. I made my kid go back to the car while I purchased what I needed.
Should the guy running the store be arrested? No.
What should I do as a citizen? Answer: Not go back there. Period. Simple as that.
Then again, I'm not a Progressive.
Should the guy running the store be arrested? No.
What should I do as a citizen? Answer: Not go back there. Period. Simple as that.
Then again, I'm not a Progressive.
Posted on 10/29/20 at 5:45 pm to OweO
Asians are of color, they cannot be racists.
Black people made the rules, they must follow them
Now Asian guy is a bigot, but he cannot be racist
Black people made the rules, they must follow them
Now Asian guy is a bigot, but he cannot be racist
Posted on 10/29/20 at 6:05 pm to jchamil
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I do think there should be a limit to harassment like that described in the hypo, and I do think there is a line somewhere between that hypo and what Ng did.
That was the point. Most people will think there is a line. The DC statutes in most jurisdictions would allow him to be charged without even a sniff of a 1983 action as some have postulated. My point is there is a legitimate reason (in at least many people's minds) for the AZ and LA DC laws to be written as they are. If the prosecutor doesn't use his description and goes forward and Ng is found guilty he could appeal.
Posted on 10/29/20 at 6:06 pm to SpotCheckBilly
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It was the other guy who threatened physical violence and, actually, both said the n-word.
The way the AZ law is written the black guy's threats strengthen the case against Ng not weaken it.
Posted on 10/29/20 at 6:07 pm to EZE Tiger Fan
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I was in a local store recently where there was rap music playing. Every other word was Effin N. No joke. I made my kid go back to the car while I purchased what I needed.
Should the guy running the store be arrested? No
That hypo has very little is anything to do with the current case. It isn't the use of the word it is the circumstances surrounding the use of the word. Read the AZ statute I posted earlier.
Posted on 10/29/20 at 6:33 pm to East Coast Band
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Will millions of blacks get arrested for using the "N- word" in public?
No.. They will just it in their music to be cool and garner sales.
Posted on 10/29/20 at 6:41 pm to WWII Collector
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I was in a local store recently where there was rap music playing. Every other word was Effin N. No joke. I made my kid go back to the car while I purchased what I needed.
But Biden is gonna stop racism...
Imagine being a white DJ... That doesn't say it but has to play it.
Posted on 10/30/20 at 12:19 am to Obtuse1
quote:This is absolute bullshite.
3. Uses abusive or offensive language or gestures to any person present in a manner likely to provoke immediate physical retaliation by such person; or
So insulting someone who may physically retaliate is a crime? fricking bullshite.
This post was edited on 10/30/20 at 12:32 am
Posted on 10/30/20 at 12:37 am to bhtigerfan
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This is absolute bullshite.
So insulting someone who may physically retaliate is a crime? fricking bullshite.
If a stranger walks up to your kids or wife and starts hurling insults at them (without physically touching them), that's not protected speech. You would reasonably want to kick his arse.
Posted on 10/30/20 at 12:40 am to ApexTiger
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Arrest whites who openly don't want blacks in their communities...
The guy is Asian
quote:
Blacks are pretty open about not wanting whites around in certain areas...
Some blacks feel this way. Some don't.
Posted on 10/30/20 at 12:50 am to OweO
The black guy needs a lesson in deescalating situations.
"Why did you come over here?"
"Why is it your business?"
That kind of talk just adds to the tinder box
"Why did you come over here?"
"Why is it your business?"
That kind of talk just adds to the tinder box
Posted on 10/30/20 at 7:19 am to OweO
Not condoning his actions. People have the right to be an a-hole. But this is not a crime.
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