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Are Young Men Truly Lost?

Posted on 10/1/23 at 9:41 am
Posted by OceanTiger83
Member since Jul 2023
192 posts
Posted on 10/1/23 at 9:41 am
Men are "Lost"

Warning this does link to a CNN youtube video but surprisingly it's done without any real political rhetoric which is nice for a change.

As someone who has struggled with dating myself I am both relieved and sad. Relieved that I'm not the only man struggling in this new dating world but really sad that we are probably going to lose entire generations of men because of militant feminism.

To me both the man and woman guest speakers bring up points most women don't want to bring up. But more than anything the problem I see is that the roles and rules have changed but no one has told men what the new rules are. As women are now working and no longer need men to be the breadwinner that role has been taken away. As the U.S. loses more and more manufacturing and there is a switch more to services, health care and technology that means less jobs that men would traditionally take and more jobs women would traditionally take.

Education stats are of course well established now and revealing. Women are earning more degrees and in general outpacing men at all levels of higher education. But unlike men these same women refuse to date non college educated men.

You also have the results of the #MeToo movement where the rules of the dating game have changed. Meeting a woman in the workplace, even if they don't work in your direct area and you have no managerial control over them, is now out of the question. Meeting women at bars/clubs could result in you getting kicked out, laughed at or even having the woman do a YouTube video on you to destroy you for the world to see. In most social settings now there's way too much risk for the man to approach, but women still want to have their cake and eat it too and still largely refuse to approach themselves.

When it comes to the dating game the rules have been changed but no one has told men what the new rules are and really have any new rules really been established? It's no different than if the refs at a football game told the teams at halftime that the rules for the second half will be completely different but you won't know what those rules are. It's resulted now in 50% of new relationships being formed with online dating and online dating being the default for dating.

The problem is online dating really only works for the top 20% of men and if you aren't in that top 20% you are essentially invisible.

I also like how they talk about where this will go. We all know that history teaches us what happens to countries where a lot of young men can't date and/or get sex. Those are countries where governments are toppled, violence soars, extremist groups take hold and the economy suffers. The old saying applies, if you have nothing you have nothing to lose.

Think about it this way. We're giving young men (including myself though I'm not really young anymore) nothing to lose. Nothing to fight for. If something really did pop off with China or Iran does the U.S. really think young men are going to fight for a country that does nothing for them? I think it's a big reason military recruitment is down so much. What is there for these men to truly fight for? In many ways they would be fighting for a country that openly hates them.

I don't know if I see any realistic way out of this. Does any of this match what you all are seeing in your lives? If so what solutions are there that could be realistically implemented?
Posted by genuineLSUtiger
Nashville
Member since Sep 2005
72929 posts
Posted on 10/1/23 at 9:42 am to
Society as a whole is lost. Blind leading the blind.
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Member since Apr 2013
62514 posts
Posted on 10/1/23 at 9:43 am to
Feminism is the worst thing to ever happen to western civilization. The patriarchy was better for everyone and it’s a shame we let it slip away in the name of some ridiculous ideal like equality.
Posted by OceanTiger83
Member since Jul 2023
192 posts
Posted on 10/1/23 at 9:44 am to
Another really good discussion on the topic as well:

Single Men No Longer Looking For Dates Or Having Sex

Scary to think that up to 50% of young men haven't had sex in the last year. There are probably a lot of men who haven't had sex in the last several years and an increasing amount of young men who are virgins. I know for me I haven't had sex in just over 3 years and have no prospects on the horizon for ending that.

As this board now trends older I think most of the posters here are married and are somewhat insulated from what's happening. That is true for general society as well and I think it's why more and more people are just now waking up to what's happening with Xenials, Millennials and Gen Z. We all know that emotional and physical benefits that men have when they are in a health relationship and having sex. It's truly a crisis that people like me saw a good 5 years ago but most people are just now starting to see.
This post was edited on 10/1/23 at 9:48 am
Posted by cable
Member since Oct 2018
9639 posts
Posted on 10/1/23 at 9:45 am to
quote:

Society as a whole is lost. Blind leading the blind.


In the land of the blind,the oned-man is king
Posted by Gaston
Dirty Coast
Member since Aug 2008
38954 posts
Posted on 10/1/23 at 9:45 am to
I think you’re thinking too much. Just say hi and smile…after a few meetings kick it up a notch and ask what she’s up to…want to get a coffee? Chill man, they’re humans and aren’t going to bite.
Posted by msutiger
Shreveport
Member since Jul 2008
69604 posts
Posted on 10/1/23 at 9:46 am to
Of course they are. People like Andrew Tate shouldn't be role models, but young people have had the feminist version of masculinity beaten into their heads for most of their life. For most it sets in that the feminist version of masculinity that something isn't right and this cant be the way. However after being told that feminist masculinity is the true way, and they know that isn't true, they go to the other extreme which is the Andrew Tate's of the world.

Sad state of affairs.
Posted by BabyTac
Austin, TX
Member since Jun 2008
12093 posts
Posted on 10/1/23 at 9:47 am to
Porn will ruin the younger generations of men. Something needs to be done. Unlimited, easy access is the root of a lot of problems. Combine that with the work from home era and we are doomed as a society.
Posted by soccerfüt
Location: A Series of Tubes
Member since May 2013
65593 posts
Posted on 10/1/23 at 9:48 am to
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I know for me I haven't had sex in just over 3 years and have no prospects on the horizon for ending that.
Mercy.

I would move Heaven & Earth to resolve this, if it were me.

That includes moving to another continent and learning a new language.

I would however not resort to Plan Aggie.

Even I have limits.
This post was edited on 10/1/23 at 9:49 am
Posted by elprez00
Hammond, LA
Member since Sep 2011
29377 posts
Posted on 10/1/23 at 9:50 am to
quote:

The patriarchy was better for everyone and it’s a shame we let it slip away in the name of some ridiculous ideal like equality

Stop. It’s not about equality. They don’t want equality. They want equity.

Women think they deserve to be paid the same as men and have to do less work and have more accommodations. And we have taken the bait hook line and sinker.
Posted by LordSaintly
Member since Dec 2005
38875 posts
Posted on 10/1/23 at 9:50 am to
quote:

I know for me I haven't had sex in just over 3 years and have no prospects on the horizon for ending that


I get it sucks, but there's literally nothing that can be done about this. Sex requires two willing participants.
Posted by Pendulum
Member since Jan 2009
7046 posts
Posted on 10/1/23 at 9:50 am to
Interesting what happens when a generation of boys have access to free, unrestricted porn before puberty even occurs. It's unnatural and harmful even if it does sound like I'm a sky screaming boomer.
Posted by OceanTiger83
Member since Jul 2023
192 posts
Posted on 10/1/23 at 9:50 am to
quote:

I think you’re thinking too much. Just say hi and smile…after a few meetings kick it up a notch and ask what she’s up to…want to get a coffee? Chill man, they’re humans and aren’t going to bite.


But now where do you even interact with women outside your social circle nowadays? People aren't going to bars and clubs as much anymore and while those places are okay for one night stands they really aren't the best for real relationships.

More people are working from home than ever before. Plus the workplace due to #MeToo is now off the table. Inflation and COVID have caused people to stay home more and more. Our society is built around getting everywhere by car and not by walking around. There really aren't that many places to meet the other sex organically anymore. Again statistics now show 50% of relationships start online which is a huge disadvantage for men.

Never mind that in the #MeToo age if you're attractive sure the woman won't mind if you approach. If you're even average though not only are you likely to get a no but you're risking public humiliation, getting kicked out of whatever establishment you're in and possibly even being accused of harassment. The risks of blindly approaches are far higher now.
This post was edited on 10/1/23 at 9:54 am
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
TeamBunt General Manager
Member since Apr 2013
62514 posts
Posted on 10/1/23 at 9:51 am to
Equity equality bla bla bla. They’re both ridiculous notions.
Posted by OceanTiger83
Member since Jul 2023
192 posts
Posted on 10/1/23 at 9:52 am to
quote:

Mercy.

I would move Heaven & Earth to resolve this, if it were me.

That includes moving to another continent and learning a new language.

I would however not resort to Plan Aggie.

Even I have limits.


I don't really have the money currently to go overseas. Right now the only option for me would be to go the prostitute/escort route which I have considered. Sad that's most likely what it will come to, having to pay for it.
Posted by Hetfield
Dallas
Member since Jun 2013
7010 posts
Posted on 10/1/23 at 9:54 am to
The internet, dating apps, & 3rd wave feminism have completely destroyed relationships between men & women. The above average & average female wants absolutely NOTHING to do with the average male. If you are a high value top 10 percent male you are killing it with women. If you are the other 90% good luck & prayers.

This post was edited on 10/1/23 at 9:55 am
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
68111 posts
Posted on 10/1/23 at 9:55 am to
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I know for me I haven't had sex in just over 3 years and have no prospects on the horizon for ending that
This is somehow women's fault? Describe yourself, please. Where do you live? How do you attempt to meet women? Do you have guy friends to go out with?
Posted by DeltaTigerDelta
Member since Jan 2017
11282 posts
Posted on 10/1/23 at 9:55 am to
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Sex requires two willing participants.


Those willing to pay for it and those willing to be paid for it.
Posted by Warfox
B.R. Native (now in MA)
Member since Apr 2017
3139 posts
Posted on 10/1/23 at 9:56 am to
quote:

Porn will ruin the younger generations of men. Something needs to be done. Unlimited, easy access is the root of a lot of problems. Combine that with the work from home era and we are doomed as a society.




I had virtually unlimited access to pROn growing up, and I and my friends turned out just fine.

What we were NOT exposed to is the current day (and ironically anti-social) social media cancer.

I blame social media way more than porn.
Posted by The Third Leg
Idiot Out Wandering Around
Member since May 2014
10044 posts
Posted on 10/1/23 at 9:56 am to
quote:

Porn will ruin the younger generations of men. Something needs to be done. Unlimited, easy access is the root of a lot of problems.

Lulz. Yep, it’s porn’s fault. Look away from the vast quantity of large forces moving through western civilization, leslienielsen-nothingtoseehere.gif, it is time to curtail pornography to save us.
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