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re: Are people brainwashed with electric cars?
Posted on 1/12/23 at 1:31 pm to shel311
Posted on 1/12/23 at 1:31 pm to shel311
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Don't the Chevy Volts start out under $30k?
The Nissan Leaf starts out at $28k and there is a federal tax credit which can bring that down to a little over $20k. The range isn't absolutely ideal since they advertise 220 miles but still would work for traveling less than 200 miles per day as I stated previously but I am curious as to how long it would take for it to charge from <10% to a full charge plugging directly into the wall and not a special outlet.
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Posted on 1/12/23 at 1:41 pm to bad93ex
quote:Can't speak to a Nissan Leaf specifically, but with a Tesla, if charging at home into a regular outlet, you can expect a charge of around 4 miles per hour. Not good, terribly slow.
but I am curious as to how long it would take for it to charge from <10% to a full charge plugging directly into the wall and not a special outlet.
I don't know much about the outlet types, but I have a NEMA 1450 outlet(I think that's what it's called.) It cost $500 for an electrician to come out and set it up in my garage. That allows for a charge at 30 miles per hour which obviously isn't fast, but for at home/overnight that is more than I'll ever need.
This post was edited on 1/12/23 at 1:46 pm
Posted on 1/12/23 at 2:07 pm to shel311
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Can't speak to a Nissan Leaf specifically, but with a Tesla, if charging at home into a regular outlet, you can expect a charge of around 4 miles per hour. Not good, terribly slow.
That is no bueno, I recall seeing something similar in terms of slow charging when they drove from Michigan to Colorado with the F-150 Lightning and used a hotel's "EV charger." If you rented a home/apartment then you would be at the mercy of charging stations in your area be it a Wal-Mart, Mall or other retail store to get your vehicle back to a decent charge. Depending on your location it could be a minor inconvenience or major obstacle.
This post was edited on 1/12/23 at 2:09 pm
Posted on 1/12/23 at 2:19 pm to bad93ex
quote:Obviously, Tesla superchargers are lightning quick.
That is no bueno, I recall seeing something similar in terms of slow charging when they drove from Michigan to Colorado with the F-150 Lightning and used a hotel's "EV charger."
Again, I can only speak to Teslas so I may not be remotely helping but generally, destination chargers(which it sounds like what you described) charge at about 30 miles per hour as well, in my experience.
Posted on 1/12/23 at 2:26 pm to shel311
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I don't know much about the outlet types, but I have a NEMA 1450 outlet(I think that's what it's called.)
It's the same type outlet used by an electric range or dryer (or any 220V equipment such as a welding machine/large RV) requiring 50A service. It is not uncommon on newer homes. I have installed/roughed in the wiring on them in the garage/carport of the last few homes I have built.
If I were building my own home, I would run 300 amp service and have the panel easily accessible to my garage/carport. At the very least, I would have a 4/3 wire roughed in from main panel to a junction box in garage/carport.
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I should qualify, 300A is for service from the street to the home and is dependent on size of home. 300A service would be the minimum I would do.
This post was edited on 1/12/23 at 2:30 pm
Posted on 1/12/23 at 2:28 pm to shel311
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Again, I can only speak to Teslas so I may not be remotely helping but generally, destination chargers(which it sounds like what you described) charge at about 30 miles per hour as well, in my experience.
Has there been any movement as far as standardizing the charging ports for electric vehicles any where in the world? I would figure that Europe would be leading on this front but I haven't heard anything.
Posted on 1/12/23 at 2:50 pm to FreddieMac
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As a daily commuter where I drive maybe 40 miles a day, an EV would be great if they were not so expensive. Less maintenance and no gas cost. Plus never having to stop at a gas station is a huge plus.
My wife and I went the plug in hybrid route with the Chrysler Pacifica because as our family grew my single cab Ram 1500 and her Civic just didn't work anymore. Up until recently we had two young foster kids the last year so we had to take them to a ton of visitations, court hearings, appointments, etc. Needless to say the rise in gas prices was killing us. I still prefer my truck, but man the Pacifica makes for a nice ride if you are in the market for a minivan. The battery itself gets something like 36 miles but it also generates a lot of power as you drive, especially in hilly areas when going down hill. But once it runs out of power the gas engine kicks in and takes over but on average we get about 85 miles to the gallon. So far as long trips, we went from Missouri to my folks house in Virginia and in total I think it generated around 300 miles of electricity along the route. I don't understand why market didn't go more towards the hybrid route.
So far as pricing, it was not much more than the non hybrid version, actually a little cheaper with the tax rebate. And before anyone says anything, the environment played no part in us buying this vehicle. We just needed a cheaper way to get the kids everywhere.
Posted on 1/12/23 at 2:52 pm to AgSGT
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Up until recently we had two young foster kids the last year
Not to highjack the thread but I can not think of anything more selfless and badass than taking in foster kids. Very impressive!
Posted on 1/12/23 at 2:55 pm to bleedsgarnet
EV as a daily commuter is a great idea in a lot of situations. My wife has the big family car and I commute 36 miles (18 each way) every day. My next car is likely an EV in 2-3 years. Tech will be a lot better then too.
Posted on 1/12/23 at 2:57 pm to Basura Blanco
I appreciate that, it definitely isn't easy, especially when you have to give them up after having them a year. Right now we are waiting till February so that if the Mom screws up we have room to take them back in. If she doesn't then we will notify the case worker that we have room for more kids. It is little odd driving around in a minivan with no kids.
Posted on 1/12/23 at 3:01 pm to bad93ex
quote:Maybe not so much standardizing them, but my EV came with 2 or 3 adapters, so you can the same end result.
Has there been any movement as far as standardizing the charging ports for electric vehicles any where in the world? I would figure that Europe would be leading on this front but I haven't heard anything.
I would guess a Nissan or Chevy EV would provide similar adapters.
This post was edited on 1/12/23 at 3:51 pm
Posted on 1/12/23 at 3:02 pm to shel311
I believe Tesla was looking to a universal adapter but haven't heard much else on the topic
Posted on 1/12/23 at 3:07 pm to AgSGT
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I believe Tesla was looking to a universal adapter but haven't heard much else on the topic
They released the patent for their plug in how’s it will become the standard.
Posted on 1/12/23 at 3:18 pm to AgSGT
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It is little odd driving around in a minivan with no kids
Not for an Aggie
Seriously, good on you. I hope it works for you and your family..ALL of them!
Posted on 1/12/23 at 3:28 pm to bleedsgarnet
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Are people brainwashed with electric cars?
some are. others charge up their car once a week or two and never have to stop for gas.
Posted on 1/12/23 at 3:31 pm to bad93ex
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The Nissan Leaf
Replacement battery costs more than the vehicle used.
And what's with people saying you never have to stop at a gas station with an Ev? Where the frick are you charging it if you arent at home?
There is a shopping center by me with some fast-food places a gas station and charging spots. How is charging it there any diff than going to a gas station other than i would be in and out quicker than you?
This post was edited on 1/12/23 at 3:37 pm
Posted on 1/12/23 at 3:38 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
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If you want to buy an EV, get an EV. If you want an ICE, get an ICE.
If only the government was pro choice.
Posted on 1/12/23 at 3:39 pm to TrueTiger
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If only the government was pro choice.
What is stopping you from purchasing the vehicle of your choice right now?
Posted on 1/12/23 at 3:40 pm to Powerman
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What is stopping you from purchasing the vehicle of your choice right now?
It's not right now. It's 10 years from now that will be the problem.
Posted on 1/12/23 at 3:40 pm to bleedsgarnet
Burt Rutan wrote about having an electric car which he loved due it being efficient with energy. That was before there was a Tesla.
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