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Posted on 1/11/23 at 10:49 pm to bad93ex
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If you drive less than <200 mi/day then you're golden with an EV.
The gas savings out weighs price increase?
Posted on 1/12/23 at 9:02 am to NOBigEZ
quote:Remember the OP asked, "Are people brainwashed with electric cars?"
The future negative health implications from prolonged extremely high electromagnetic frequency (EMF) exposure trumps any positive benefit of owning one.
I think you have your answer now OP, just not in the direction you were thinking.
Posted on 1/12/23 at 9:04 am to dgnx6
quote:You'd have a point if people just started hating on EVs recently, but they've been hating on them loooooong before the mandates, so this is definitely not "exactly it" as the reason for the hate of EVs.
Well this is exactly it isn’t it.
Posted on 1/12/23 at 9:13 am to bleedsgarnet
I think a lot of the green energy/EV movement will be shocked by at least three things:
1. When the environmental impact of the EV industry starts to kick in.
2. Energy shortages.
3. When nations start shooting at one another over the rare earth materials required to produce this "green transportation". 'No blood for oil'?? Get ready, folks....
1. When the environmental impact of the EV industry starts to kick in.
2. Energy shortages.
3. When nations start shooting at one another over the rare earth materials required to produce this "green transportation". 'No blood for oil'?? Get ready, folks....
Posted on 1/12/23 at 9:37 am to NOBigEZ
quote:From your link:
I know, many times you can learn a lot from this place.
quote:So you chose to believe one side and not the other.
Recent studies of the EMF emitted by these automobiles have claimed either that they pose a cancer risk for the vehicles' occupants or that they are safe.
Again OP, here's your perfect example about someone being brainwashed with EVs.
Posted on 1/12/23 at 9:37 am to LSUfourLife
quote:
I love that "Cajun" logo. What is that?
They were a boat manufacturer.

Posted on 1/12/23 at 9:38 am to Texas Ram
quote:I love how this is all of a sudden being posted in everyone of these threads as you bros play on your smartphones all day without a care in the world about the slave labor used to make those phones.
Keeps the African Cobalt miners employed
Posted on 1/12/23 at 9:40 am to NOBigEZ
quote:Can you explain why you posted something as fact then your link to where you gathered that fact didn't support what you stated in the factual way you claimed?
I agree, studies never give you the full picture. Sometime you need to research and test for yourself.
Posted on 1/12/23 at 9:42 am to thelawnwranglers
quote:Price increase of what?
The gas savings out weighs price increase?
Compare a Tesla Model 3 to a similarly priced BMW 3 series because they're in the same class. They cost around the same, so what price increase?
Not sure why people feel the need to compare EVs to cars that cost half as much to then say the gas savings won't make up for it in the long run.
Posted on 1/12/23 at 10:15 am to shel311
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Not sure why people feel the need to compare EVs to cars that cost half as much to then say the gas savings won't make up for it in the long run.
Camry =/= Model 3
Now using the F-150 Lightning compared to a King Ranch is a good comparison and they have a long ways to go on the electric truck front.
I am still waiting for the budget EV to be introduced on the market.
Posted on 1/12/23 at 10:22 am to bad93ex
quote:Exactly. The OP brought up a Tesla outselling a Camry, but that doesn't mean the 2 are comparable cars in totality. The only comparison there was units sold.
Camry =/= Model 3
quote:Don't the Chevy Volts start out under $30k?
I am still waiting for the budget EV to be introduced on the market.
Given the average price of a new car sold is now over $40k, I'm wondering when you say a new budget vehicle, what should that price be?
A Volt appears to be $28k. Without thinking, I wouldn't call $28 a budget vehicle but if it's THAT much cheaper than the average new car sold, maybe it is?
Posted on 1/12/23 at 11:03 am to Powerman
quote:
I have a feeling that won't sit well with the people that inhabit the state
People here get off on being told what to do.
I went to pick up a can of Copenhagen the other day, and they have banned any and all flavored tobacco products in the state, no menthol cigarettes, no mint or wintergreen smokeless tobacco.
shite is weird
Posted on 1/12/23 at 11:05 am to bleedsgarnet
quote:now plz do the mouthbreathers obsession with being triggered by EVs
Are people brainwashed with electric cars?
Posted on 1/12/23 at 11:12 am to bleedsgarnet
Get ready to see cars stopped on the side of the road…..Battery out of Juice
Battery cost almost the cost of the car
Be ready to wait to get power
Cannot get juice when the temp grts freezing
Posted on 1/12/23 at 11:13 am to bad93ex
quote:
If you drive less than <200 mi/day then you're golden with an EV.
This is the key. As a daily commuter where I drive maybe 40 miles a day, an EV would be great if they were not so expensive. Less maintenance and no gas cost. Plus never having to stop at a gas station is a huge plus.
I would not take a cross country or multi-state trip in one of those things.
Posted on 1/12/23 at 11:25 am to oleheat
I just don’t know what the future solution is for emergency situations. Like when a hurricane slams into the coast and we have power failures for days or weeks with nowhere to charge our vehicles. Could you imagine what the evacuation would look like? Also any other situation where you may have to take an emergency trip like to the hospital or something similar during prolonged power outages.
Posted on 1/12/23 at 11:32 am to namvet6566
quote:Good thing that never happens with those gas powered vehicles
Get ready to see cars stopped on the side of the road…..Battery out of Juice
quote:This is false.
Battery cost almost the cost of the car
quote:This is also false.
Cannot get juice when the temp grts freezing
Speaking of brainwashed...
This post was edited on 1/12/23 at 11:33 am
Posted on 1/12/23 at 11:58 am to FreddieMac
quote:I wanna preface this by stating I'm not arguing against this or that this is wrong, quite the opposite as time to charge clearly a valid point against EVs. But a couple of things...
I would not take a cross country or multi-state trip in one of those things.
Not to you directly, but I don't think charging on road trips takes nearly as long as a great many think. In these threads, posters reply and state you have to charge for 1 hour at least at each stop, which just isn't so.
Again, some people will never want to wait to charge compared to time to get gas, and that is totally understandable. In fact, when I was younger and single I made a 10 hour drive a couple of times per year, and I was that guy that would only stop for gas and have snacks when I first leave, so I would just make 2 stops for 5 minutes each for gas and nothing else. So I get those that do that.
But nowadays, I have a wife and kids. We've taken 3 10ish hour road trips in our Tesla, and we've also made the same exact road trip in our Grand Cherokee, and the Grand Cherokee trip was only 30 minutes quicker. Could some of that have been due to traffic? Sure, but the traffic in the non-EV didn't seem any better or worse. 95% or more of my stops are 15 minutes or less, with may being 5-10 minutes.
Point being, with a wife and young kids, you're usually having to make more stops than you want, plus a stop to eat. You can roll those into your charge trips, so while charging does take time, some of that is time you'd be taking to stop any way even if you didn't have an EV.
So in my example above, we were always going to stop for about 60 minutes in the non-EV, and we stopped for a total of 90 minutes in the EV on the 10 hour trip.
This post was edited on 1/12/23 at 12:07 pm
Posted on 1/12/23 at 12:59 pm to shel311
Buy a meter, test a couple and decide for yourself.
This post was edited on 1/12/23 at 1:28 pm
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