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re: Are people brainwashed with electric cars?

Posted on 1/11/23 at 10:34 pm to
Posted by LSUfourLife
Member since Apr 2018
133 posts
Posted on 1/11/23 at 10:34 pm to
I love that "Cajun" logo. What is that?
Posted by thelawnwranglers
Member since Sep 2007
42331 posts
Posted on 1/11/23 at 10:49 pm to
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If you drive less than <200 mi/day then you're golden with an EV.


The gas savings out weighs price increase?
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112856 posts
Posted on 1/12/23 at 9:02 am to
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The future negative health implications from prolonged extremely high electromagnetic frequency (EMF) exposure trumps any positive benefit of owning one.

Remember the OP asked, "Are people brainwashed with electric cars?"


I think you have your answer now OP, just not in the direction you were thinking.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112856 posts
Posted on 1/12/23 at 9:04 am to
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Well this is exactly it isn’t it.
You'd have a point if people just started hating on EVs recently, but they've been hating on them loooooong before the mandates, so this is definitely not "exactly it" as the reason for the hate of EVs.
Posted by oleheat
Sportsman's Paradise
Member since Mar 2007
14786 posts
Posted on 1/12/23 at 9:13 am to
I think a lot of the green energy/EV movement will be shocked by at least three things:

1. When the environmental impact of the EV industry starts to kick in.

2. Energy shortages.

3. When nations start shooting at one another over the rare earth materials required to produce this "green transportation". 'No blood for oil'?? Get ready, folks....
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112856 posts
Posted on 1/12/23 at 9:37 am to
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I know, many times you can learn a lot from this place.

From your link:
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Recent studies of the EMF emitted by these automobiles have claimed either that they pose a cancer risk for the vehicles' occupants or that they are safe.
So you chose to believe one side and not the other.

Again OP, here's your perfect example about someone being brainwashed with EVs.
Posted by bad93ex
Walnut Cove
Member since Sep 2018
36097 posts
Posted on 1/12/23 at 9:37 am to
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I love that "Cajun" logo. What is that?



They were a boat manufacturer.

Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112856 posts
Posted on 1/12/23 at 9:38 am to
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Keeps the African Cobalt miners employed

I love how this is all of a sudden being posted in everyone of these threads as you bros play on your smartphones all day without a care in the world about the slave labor used to make those phones.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112856 posts
Posted on 1/12/23 at 9:40 am to
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I agree, studies never give you the full picture. Sometime you need to research and test for yourself.

Can you explain why you posted something as fact then your link to where you gathered that fact didn't support what you stated in the factual way you claimed?
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112856 posts
Posted on 1/12/23 at 9:42 am to
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The gas savings out weighs price increase?

Price increase of what?

Compare a Tesla Model 3 to a similarly priced BMW 3 series because they're in the same class. They cost around the same, so what price increase?


Not sure why people feel the need to compare EVs to cars that cost half as much to then say the gas savings won't make up for it in the long run.
Posted by bad93ex
Walnut Cove
Member since Sep 2018
36097 posts
Posted on 1/12/23 at 10:15 am to
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Not sure why people feel the need to compare EVs to cars that cost half as much to then say the gas savings won't make up for it in the long run.



Camry =/= Model 3

Now using the F-150 Lightning compared to a King Ranch is a good comparison and they have a long ways to go on the electric truck front.

I am still waiting for the budget EV to be introduced on the market.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112856 posts
Posted on 1/12/23 at 10:22 am to
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Camry =/= Model 3

Exactly. The OP brought up a Tesla outselling a Camry, but that doesn't mean the 2 are comparable cars in totality. The only comparison there was units sold.
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I am still waiting for the budget EV to be introduced on the market.

Don't the Chevy Volts start out under $30k?

Given the average price of a new car sold is now over $40k, I'm wondering when you say a new budget vehicle, what should that price be?

A Volt appears to be $28k. Without thinking, I wouldn't call $28 a budget vehicle but if it's THAT much cheaper than the average new car sold, maybe it is?

Posted by Mizzoufan26
Vacaville CA
Member since Sep 2012
18965 posts
Posted on 1/12/23 at 11:03 am to
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I have a feeling that won't sit well with the people that inhabit the state


People here get off on being told what to do.

I went to pick up a can of Copenhagen the other day, and they have banned any and all flavored tobacco products in the state, no menthol cigarettes, no mint or wintergreen smokeless tobacco.

shite is weird
Posted by SuperSaint
Sorting Out OT BS Since '2007'
Member since Sep 2007
150328 posts
Posted on 1/12/23 at 11:05 am to
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Are people brainwashed with electric cars?
now plz do the mouthbreathers obsession with being triggered by EVs
Posted by namvet6566
Member since Oct 2012
7846 posts
Posted on 1/12/23 at 11:12 am to


Get ready to see cars stopped on the side of the road…..Battery out of Juice

Battery cost almost the cost of the car

Be ready to wait to get power

Cannot get juice when the temp grts freezing
Posted by FreddieMac
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2010
24917 posts
Posted on 1/12/23 at 11:13 am to
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If you drive less than <200 mi/day then you're golden with an EV.


This is the key. As a daily commuter where I drive maybe 40 miles a day, an EV would be great if they were not so expensive. Less maintenance and no gas cost. Plus never having to stop at a gas station is a huge plus.

I would not take a cross country or multi-state trip in one of those things.
Posted by SlickRick55
Member since May 2016
2878 posts
Posted on 1/12/23 at 11:25 am to
I just don’t know what the future solution is for emergency situations. Like when a hurricane slams into the coast and we have power failures for days or weeks with nowhere to charge our vehicles. Could you imagine what the evacuation would look like? Also any other situation where you may have to take an emergency trip like to the hospital or something similar during prolonged power outages.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112856 posts
Posted on 1/12/23 at 11:32 am to
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Get ready to see cars stopped on the side of the road…..Battery out of Juice

Good thing that never happens with those gas powered vehicles
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Battery cost almost the cost of the car

This is false.
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Cannot get juice when the temp grts freezing
This is also false.



Speaking of brainwashed...
This post was edited on 1/12/23 at 11:33 am
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112856 posts
Posted on 1/12/23 at 11:58 am to
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I would not take a cross country or multi-state trip in one of those things.

I wanna preface this by stating I'm not arguing against this or that this is wrong, quite the opposite as time to charge clearly a valid point against EVs. But a couple of things...

Not to you directly, but I don't think charging on road trips takes nearly as long as a great many think. In these threads, posters reply and state you have to charge for 1 hour at least at each stop, which just isn't so.

Again, some people will never want to wait to charge compared to time to get gas, and that is totally understandable. In fact, when I was younger and single I made a 10 hour drive a couple of times per year, and I was that guy that would only stop for gas and have snacks when I first leave, so I would just make 2 stops for 5 minutes each for gas and nothing else. So I get those that do that.


But nowadays, I have a wife and kids. We've taken 3 10ish hour road trips in our Tesla, and we've also made the same exact road trip in our Grand Cherokee, and the Grand Cherokee trip was only 30 minutes quicker. Could some of that have been due to traffic? Sure, but the traffic in the non-EV didn't seem any better or worse. 95% or more of my stops are 15 minutes or less, with may being 5-10 minutes.

Point being, with a wife and young kids, you're usually having to make more stops than you want, plus a stop to eat. You can roll those into your charge trips, so while charging does take time, some of that is time you'd be taking to stop any way even if you didn't have an EV.

So in my example above, we were always going to stop for about 60 minutes in the non-EV, and we stopped for a total of 90 minutes in the EV on the 10 hour trip.
This post was edited on 1/12/23 at 12:07 pm
Posted by NOBigEZ
Raleigh, NC
Member since Aug 2020
535 posts
Posted on 1/12/23 at 12:59 pm to
Buy a meter, test a couple and decide for yourself.
This post was edited on 1/12/23 at 1:28 pm
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