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re: Are out of state colleges worth it?
Posted on 2/20/24 at 3:53 pm to TigahsOnTop
Posted on 2/20/24 at 3:53 pm to TigahsOnTop
As others have said, it depends. It depends on where you live and which out-of-state college you'd go to.
For example:
Live in Louisiana, and go to Ole Miss, Alabama, Tennessee, Georgia, South Carolina....no. You just wasted a shite ton of money.
Live in Louisiana, and go to public: Michigan, UCLA, Virginia or private: Georgetown, Brown, Notre Dame, Chicago, Stanford, MIT, yeah, it's probably worth it.
For example:
Live in Louisiana, and go to Ole Miss, Alabama, Tennessee, Georgia, South Carolina....no. You just wasted a shite ton of money.
Live in Louisiana, and go to public: Michigan, UCLA, Virginia or private: Georgetown, Brown, Notre Dame, Chicago, Stanford, MIT, yeah, it's probably worth it.
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Posted on 2/20/24 at 3:55 pm to Giantkiller
Yes, but there’s usually some waiting period so you end up paying out of state for a few semesters.
One drawback to this is if your kids end up wanting to come home for graduate school, they won’t get the preference given to in state kids. Medical and law schools at public universities often give their spots to something like 90% in state. Public med schools in particular.
One drawback to this is if your kids end up wanting to come home for graduate school, they won’t get the preference given to in state kids. Medical and law schools at public universities often give their spots to something like 90% in state. Public med schools in particular.
Posted on 2/20/24 at 3:55 pm to TigahsOnTop
My daughter is going into her senior year at LSU with an out of state scholarship. She loves LSU and Baton Rouge.
All the talk and news about it being unsafe. I definitely worry but she says she doesn’t fell unsafe. Lived in the dorm then apartment for 2 years. Senior year will be living in an off campus house.
She could have went to Ole Miss and State with a full ride scholarship and more but LSU is where she wanted to go.
All the talk and news about it being unsafe. I definitely worry but she says she doesn’t fell unsafe. Lived in the dorm then apartment for 2 years. Senior year will be living in an off campus house.
She could have went to Ole Miss and State with a full ride scholarship and more but LSU is where she wanted to go.
This post was edited on 2/20/24 at 3:58 pm
Posted on 2/20/24 at 3:58 pm to TigahsOnTop
I never really understood people paying out of state tuition to go to LSU
Posted on 2/20/24 at 3:58 pm to TigahsOnTop
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Are out of state colleges worth it?
Are girls attractive? It depends.
I graduated from two in-state Louisiana universities and worked down the hall from a Harvard/Yale grad for the same money.
But, there are certainly circumstances where going going out of state can be justified.
This post was edited on 2/20/24 at 4:01 pm
Posted on 2/20/24 at 4:03 pm to Putty
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Are out of state colleges worth it?
It depends...what is "worth it" to you?
Many colleges today offer out of state scholarships that cover the out of state fees. My son received them whereby making schools in TX and AZ as cheap as in-state at LSU.
Now is it justifiable for him to go there instead of LSU for an under graduate degree? I'm not sure I believe that, but I'm all for letting them spread their wings if they think they are ready and the costs are the same.
Posted on 2/20/24 at 4:15 pm to STigers
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My daughter is going into her senior year at LSU with an out of state scholarship. She loves LSU and Baton Rouge. All the talk and news about it being unsafe. I definitely worry but she says she doesn’t fell unsafe. Lived in the dorm then apartment for 2 years. Senior year will be living in an off campus house. She could have went to Ole Miss and State with a full ride scholarship and more but LSU is where she wanted to go.
Did you attend LSU?
Posted on 2/20/24 at 4:16 pm to Fletch1985
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One drawback to this is if your kids end up wanting to come home for graduate school, they won’t get the preference given to in state kids.
Don't worry. If they choose grad school, I'll be doing everything in my Godgiven power to make sure it isn't here.
Posted on 2/20/24 at 4:19 pm to Fletch1985
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Medical and law schools at public universities often give their spots to something like 90% in state. Public med schools in particular.
You don't lose your instate status for graduate school if you attend a college out of state. You still list your parents house as home of record.
Posted on 2/20/24 at 4:26 pm to TigahsOnTop
They aren't. I did do grad school out of state, but they waivered my out of state tuition
Posted on 2/20/24 at 4:26 pm to TigahsOnTop
I have multiple friends that went to directional schools and they all got into trouble and swear if they went to a larger school, they likely would not have. They were just board undergrad kids and the smaller schools have very little going on.
I think it depends on who you are and who your kid is, but going to college isn't just about the education its also about meeting and getting into groups of friends that will help your future and career. That's very very difficult at low end state schools.
Finally, I absolutely think for certain fields and degrees your location matters. For others like medicine it doesn't, but for something like specific engineering it absolutely helps land more and better jobs to be closer to the industry.
I think it depends on who you are and who your kid is, but going to college isn't just about the education its also about meeting and getting into groups of friends that will help your future and career. That's very very difficult at low end state schools.
Finally, I absolutely think for certain fields and degrees your location matters. For others like medicine it doesn't, but for something like specific engineering it absolutely helps land more and better jobs to be closer to the industry.
Posted on 2/20/24 at 4:39 pm to Giantkiller
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If a student establishes residency in the state of the out-of-state college, does out-of-state tuition apply? I need to know as all of my kiddos will be leaving this sinking shithole for college.
Most schools you have to be a resident for 1 full year before applying. I knew a lot of kids from Georgia and Florida that moved to Auburn and went to the local CC for a year while their friends went to Auburn, then transferred to Auburn but they couldn't do it until they were at Sophomores.
The issue there is if you are in something like engineering, nursing, pharmacy, etc with a track you are put well behind.
Posted on 2/20/24 at 4:39 pm to TigahsOnTop
College in general isn't worth it.
Take a year off. Do some part-time manual labor. Find a trade, learn it.
Take a year off. Do some part-time manual labor. Find a trade, learn it.
This post was edited on 2/20/24 at 4:46 pm
Posted on 2/20/24 at 4:53 pm to SneezyBeltranIsHere
In my experience working in the gulf coast in petrochem, you're mostly right. Although, I see the premium employers tend to prioritize top tier regional schools over other regional schools. McNeese and Lamar are ABET accredited Engineering schools too, but they don't make 100% of the top tier company's lists for recruiting, even in Texas and Louisiana.
The higher up the totem pole your school is in recognition and "rankings", the greater your chances, more opportunities there will be. There's not much difference in A&M and LSU in that regard in Texas and Louisiana, but that regional credit starts to fade outside of those states. All things considered, folks in Washington or Pennsylvania will opt for the top tier school candidate or they'll screen out the lower tier schools before even interviewing, LSU included.
I've never worked with an LSU engineer that I felt had an inferior education to mine. I've never met a bad U of Houston Cougar engineer. I've worked with and for many McNeese and Lamar grads. I'd put many of them over Georgia Tech, Rice, Texas, A&M, etc on a person by person basis. But interview screening is a different ballgame, fair or unfair.
So, I say all that to say, to the original post, go to the best school and alumni network you can all things equal or close to it. Maybe pay a premium, but be realistic with your expectations and future prospects.
The higher up the totem pole your school is in recognition and "rankings", the greater your chances, more opportunities there will be. There's not much difference in A&M and LSU in that regard in Texas and Louisiana, but that regional credit starts to fade outside of those states. All things considered, folks in Washington or Pennsylvania will opt for the top tier school candidate or they'll screen out the lower tier schools before even interviewing, LSU included.
I've never worked with an LSU engineer that I felt had an inferior education to mine. I've never met a bad U of Houston Cougar engineer. I've worked with and for many McNeese and Lamar grads. I'd put many of them over Georgia Tech, Rice, Texas, A&M, etc on a person by person basis. But interview screening is a different ballgame, fair or unfair.
So, I say all that to say, to the original post, go to the best school and alumni network you can all things equal or close to it. Maybe pay a premium, but be realistic with your expectations and future prospects.
Posted on 2/20/24 at 4:59 pm to TigahsOnTop
I don’t know if it is worth it but I do know it seems like half the State of Texas is now going to Auburn. Can’t drive down the road without seeing a Texas tag. So they must think an Auburn degree is worth more than one from Texas.
Posted on 2/20/24 at 5:08 pm to Giantkiller
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If a student establishes residency in the state of the out-of-state college, does out-of-state tuition apply?
As you can probably guess, you are not the first person to think about this. Top public universities like Michigan and UCLA/Berkeley have exceedingly strict rules on establishing and proving residency in order to get in-state tuition. It is more onerous than you would think.
Posted on 2/20/24 at 5:16 pm to TigahsOnTop
It depends
Louisiana offers all that’s needed for most fields.
There are times that I’ve used a lawyer from a more prestigious school but it’s rare.
If you’re thinking about nursing or PA, it makes zero sense to go out of state. The costs are outrageous out of state and it’s just not worth it.
For instance, PA school at UAB is 150,000 per year out of state versus 40,000 at lsu in state. No way that makes sense.
Same for nursing.
Louisiana offers all that’s needed for most fields.
There are times that I’ve used a lawyer from a more prestigious school but it’s rare.
If you’re thinking about nursing or PA, it makes zero sense to go out of state. The costs are outrageous out of state and it’s just not worth it.
For instance, PA school at UAB is 150,000 per year out of state versus 40,000 at lsu in state. No way that makes sense.
Same for nursing.
Posted on 2/20/24 at 5:43 pm to TigahsOnTop
I went to a very expensive out of state college. It has opened doors for me. It is good for networking. The diploma looks really good on my office wall.
But I know people who are way more successful than me who went to LSU for undergrad.
But I know people who are way more successful than me who went to LSU for undergrad.
Posted on 2/20/24 at 5:56 pm to TigahsOnTop
For most majors, this depends on whether or not a person plans to stay in Louisiana. You can't underestimate the "good ole boy" situation and the power of social networking in this state.
Honestly, if they plan to stay here, your money would have been much better spent sending them to a great elementary/middle/high school. The family connections made are lifelong.
So when it's time for that first job out of law school, little Johnny will just text Mr. Bobby Wayne (the billboard PI attorney) who used to coach his little league team to go meet him for lunch. They'll have some beers together at the tailgate that weekend, as well. Little Johnny has had this job lined up since 6th grade.
Honestly, if they plan to stay here, your money would have been much better spent sending them to a great elementary/middle/high school. The family connections made are lifelong.
So when it's time for that first job out of law school, little Johnny will just text Mr. Bobby Wayne (the billboard PI attorney) who used to coach his little league team to go meet him for lunch. They'll have some beers together at the tailgate that weekend, as well. Little Johnny has had this job lined up since 6th grade.
This post was edited on 2/20/24 at 6:01 pm
Posted on 2/20/24 at 5:56 pm to JimTiger72
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It really only matters (slightly) for your first job out of college. After that, it’s all experience & who you know
Years ago, I was told “ the first job is on your college, the next ones are on you”.
After almost 40 years in the work force, it was good advice.
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