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re: Apache gunship takes out a whole Hadji platoon
Posted on 3/7/16 at 10:16 am to OleWarSkuleAlum
Posted on 3/7/16 at 10:16 am to OleWarSkuleAlum
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OleWarSkuleAlum
Thanks for the insight
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Posted on 3/7/16 at 10:25 am to White Roach
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Those Hellfires were designed to defeat tanks. They cost about $100,000 a copy and were zinging them after one guy with a backpack.
If this is true it's horseshite that they are using those to kill 1 person.
Posted on 3/7/16 at 10:25 am to Darth_Vader
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Wherever that reticle was when you hit the laze button is where the round would go. As long as you had properly bore sighed your gun, it was virtually impossible to miss.
We have a similar system.
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I may be thinking wrong here but didn't the Apache use to have the same 25mm that's mounted on the M2 Bradley?
As far as I know the AH-64D always had the M230E1.
Posted on 3/7/16 at 10:28 am to Epic Cajun
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If this is true it's horse shite that they are using those to kill 1 person.
I dunno about you partner but I'd rather spend $100,000 wasting one haji than see that POS take a shot at one of our guys.
eta: quick google search says hellfire costs $70k/missile
This post was edited on 3/7/16 at 10:29 am
Posted on 3/7/16 at 10:28 am to NWarty
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Dumb question OleSkule, but I take it that it that there's a alternate/tertiary system backing up the main ballistic computer that computes for drop/crosswind/etc. at ranges exceeding X-amount of km?
We have backups to backups for everything. However the systems do have a limitation for example the weapons processor (WP) only provides a ballistic solution for 30mm out to 4200m. Can we shoot further than that with the 30mm? Well yes, but then you start into the Kentucky windage type stuff. As far as auto range. The Apache was very advanced sensors and can sense range through the FLIR and engage without the use of the LRFD.
Posted on 3/7/16 at 10:30 am to Epic Cajun
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If this is true it's horseshite that they are using those to kill 1 person.
If your worried about collateral damage it's the most effective weapon. It's the only point target weapons system (PTWS) the Apache has.
Posted on 3/7/16 at 10:30 am to Epic Cajun
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If this is true it's horseshite that they are using those to kill 1 person
until that 1 person walks into a crowded market place and blows himself up.
Posted on 3/7/16 at 10:31 am to Tigeralum2008
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I dunno about you partner but I'd rather spend $100,000 wasting one haji than see that POS take a shot at one of our guys.
Yeah you go ahead and tell that SFOD-D guy on the radio it costs too much money.
Posted on 3/7/16 at 10:35 am to OleWarSkuleAlum
Many thanks OWSA. Neat information I never had a chance to go through the Joint Fires Observer course so my knowledge in Whirlybird and Pointy nose capabilities is limited.
Hey, but an artillery round and fuse combo costs less than a hundred bucks. Then again we tend to shoot a lot of them
I never had a chance to go through the Joint Fires Observer course so my knowledge in Whirlybird and Pointy nose capabilities is limited. Hey, but an artillery round and fuse combo costs less than a hundred bucks. Then again we tend to shoot a lot of them
Posted on 3/7/16 at 10:38 am to Da Sheik
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Apache gunship takes out a whole Hadji platoon
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There's another good one on the home page of Mudji being hunted by a cobra gunship
Posted on 3/7/16 at 10:43 am to NWarty
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Many thanks OWSA. Neat information I never had a chance to go through the Joint Fires Observer course so my knowledge in Whirlybird and Pointy nose capabilities is limited.
Hey, but an artillery round and fuse combo costs less than a hundred bucks. Then again we tend to shoot a lot of them
Yeah I was actually lucky enough to go to both the Joint Firepower Course in Las Vegas and the Joint Fires Observer Course at Fort Sill. That knowledge gained me alot of credibility with the JTACs because it's rare for a pilot to be a JFO in the Army.
This post was edited on 3/7/16 at 10:44 am
Posted on 3/7/16 at 10:46 am to Da Sheik
30 mm HE on a goddamn helicopter is terrifying. The Apache is amazing
Here's what it feels like being at the receiving end of a gunship. Filmed by guys on the ground shooting at attack helicopters with a DshK, then running for their lives as rounds land all around them:
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You can hear that the rounds land before the sound from the cannon reaches the cameraman. At one point you can even hear shrapnel zipping by. Unfortunately, I can't see any casualties in this video, but it ends at a suspiciously convenient time.
I don't think this is an Apache, though. Someone in the comments said it was a Cobra. Does the US still fly those? I know Pakistan has them (AH-1F), so it could be theirs, since the Taliban is also in Pakistan.
If it is a Cobra, then I don't think that's a 30 mm. Should be a 20 mm cannon.
edit: I'm 100% civilian so anyone who actually knows what they're talking about, please correct me
Here's what it feels like being at the receiving end of a gunship. Filmed by guys on the ground shooting at attack helicopters with a DshK, then running for their lives as rounds land all around them:
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You can hear that the rounds land before the sound from the cannon reaches the cameraman. At one point you can even hear shrapnel zipping by. Unfortunately, I can't see any casualties in this video, but it ends at a suspiciously convenient time.
I don't think this is an Apache, though. Someone in the comments said it was a Cobra. Does the US still fly those? I know Pakistan has them (AH-1F), so it could be theirs, since the Taliban is also in Pakistan.
If it is a Cobra, then I don't think that's a 30 mm. Should be a 20 mm cannon.
edit: I'm 100% civilian so anyone who actually knows what they're talking about, please correct me
This post was edited on 3/7/16 at 10:51 am
Posted on 3/7/16 at 10:46 am to slackster
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I get it, but this is a pretty ruthless way to word things:
I think it's an accurate description.
Posted on 3/7/16 at 10:52 am to slackster
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I mean I get it, but this is a pretty ruthless way to word things:
And 100% on target. Enough with your PC bullshite. Call it like it is or keep you damn mouth shut
Posted on 3/7/16 at 10:54 am to Hog on the Hill
The Marines still fly Cobras/Super Cobras. Navy does too, I believe.
Posted on 3/7/16 at 10:55 am to White Roach
quote:Awesome, thanks!
The Marines still fly Cobras/Super Cobras. Navy does too, I believe.
Posted on 3/7/16 at 10:55 am to Hog on the Hill
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I don't think this is an Apache, though. Someone in the comments said it was a Cobra. Does the US still fly those?
It was a Cobra and yes the USMC still uses Cobras as their rotary wing attack platform.
Posted on 3/7/16 at 10:56 am to TheCaterpillar
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I mean, the dead folk aren't getting cold right away. The bodies still give heat signature.
In cold weather, with even civilian grade thermal, you can see a drop in body temp pretty quickly. Given the uh... Dispersal... Of tissue from the cannon, it should go from steaming to not pretty quick.
Posted on 3/7/16 at 11:28 am to MorbidTheClown
Wouldn't a 30mm round do the trick?
All I'm saying is that there are more cost effective ways to eliminate enemies.
The people that advocate for using 70k missiles to eliminate one person are the same people who wonder why our country is in debt.
All I'm saying is that there are more cost effective ways to eliminate enemies.
The people that advocate for using 70k missiles to eliminate one person are the same people who wonder why our country is in debt.
Posted on 3/7/16 at 11:29 am to Epic Cajun
did you miss the part where he said the were out of ammo?
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