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re: AP: FBI concludes investigation into Vegas shooting, finds no motive

Posted on 1/29/19 at 12:17 pm to
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112944 posts
Posted on 1/29/19 at 12:17 pm to
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Even crazy people have "motives," however far-fetched they may seem to normal people.

Sure, doesn't mean 100% of the time we'll find that motive.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91871 posts
Posted on 1/29/19 at 12:19 pm to
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However, all of this is just speculation.


Thanks for clearing that up.
Posted by Clyde Tipton
Planet Earth
Member since Dec 2007
40903 posts
Posted on 1/29/19 at 12:19 pm to
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FBI concludes investigation into Vegas shooting, finds no motive


The motive was by the government to gin up support to outlaw bump stocks. It worked.
Posted by Salmon
I helped draft the email
Member since Feb 2008
86677 posts
Posted on 1/29/19 at 12:19 pm to
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The motive was by the government to gin up support to outlaw bump stocks. It worked.



Thanks Trump
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
63722 posts
Posted on 1/29/19 at 12:20 pm to
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The only conspiracy theory I’ve heard that makes sense is that it was a CIA job and this guy was just the patsy. They killed him before any shots were fired and left him to take the blame.


Lol
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
61773 posts
Posted on 1/29/19 at 12:22 pm to
Arms deal gone bad
Attempted Saudi hit gone bad.
Drug running CIA/DEA event
I saw the child porn ring thing mentioned a few times around here with this one.

Guy lost a bunch of money and was mad a the world.

False flag put on by gun control nuts.

Take your pick. They all make as much sense.
Posted by keakar
Member since Jan 2017
30152 posts
Posted on 1/29/19 at 12:22 pm to
sure, thuis explains why all his electronic shite along with note explaining his motives and intent vanished like a fart in the wind

most likely a CIA or NSA assassination disguised as a random crazy shooter? maybe another democrat run fast and furious BS deal gone awry? we will never know because they dont want anyone to know.

the only thing for sure was it wasnt in any way connected to republicans or conservatives or we would have known the whole story in a matter of days.
Posted by Spock's Eyebrow
Member since May 2012
12300 posts
Posted on 1/29/19 at 12:23 pm to
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Thanks for clearing that up.


Working the Clintons into it increased its credibility 10-fold.
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Member since Feb 2011
57015 posts
Posted on 1/29/19 at 12:25 pm to
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Even crazy people have "motives," however far-fetched they may seem to normal people.


Sometimes, the motive is just notoriety for killing a lot of people in suicidal rampages .
Posted by SCLibertarian
Conway, South Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
42652 posts
Posted on 1/29/19 at 12:26 pm to
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But don’t let that thought stop you conspiracy guys

The media coverage on this vanished. And there were likely more FBI agents arresting Roger Stone at gunpoint than there were investigating the deadliest shooting in American history.

I don't get people who mock conspiracy theorists. There will always be crazy people, but your average conspiracy theorist exists because we have such a dishonest and corrupt government that many don't believe a word they're told.
Posted by Dead End
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2013
21237 posts
Posted on 1/29/19 at 12:27 pm to
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We learned more about a teenager in a red hat in a few days than we’ve learned about this guy in months.




Our MSM is trash, pure propaganda.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91871 posts
Posted on 1/29/19 at 12:29 pm to
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we will never know because they dont want anyone to know.


Which begs the question - if you're orchestrating a cover-up, wouldn't you establish a clear motive (even if it's false) in order to satisfy the masses?

Posted by biggsc
Member since Mar 2009
34777 posts
Posted on 1/29/19 at 12:29 pm to
Posted by castorinho
13623 posts
Member since Nov 2010
88334 posts
Posted on 1/29/19 at 12:29 pm to
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The only conspiracy theory I’ve heard that makes sense is that it was a CIA job and this guy was just the patsy. They killed him before any shots were fired and left him to take the blame.
Hmmm...
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91871 posts
Posted on 1/29/19 at 12:31 pm to
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I don't get people who mock conspiracy theorists.


Because the holes in their theories are FAR bigger than the holes in most of the official records.

quote:

There will always be crazy people, but your average conspiracy theorist exists because we have such a dishonest and corrupt government that many don't believe a word they're told.


It's impossible to reason with a conspiracy theorist. They're hard wired to ignore anything that challenges their view.
Posted by cokebottleag
I’m a Santos Republican
Member since Aug 2011
24080 posts
Posted on 1/29/19 at 12:32 pm to
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The most reasonable explanation was that the “shooter” didn’t shoot anyone, but was a patsy. The leading theory is that there was an attempt on the life of the Saudi Arabian crown prince, Muhammed Bin Salmon that same night. He was also allegedly videoed on the strip that same evening. The “shooter” was an arms smuggler who used the casino to launder money. After providing the arms for the attack, he was killed and staged to look like the shooter.
The shooting up of the concert was meant to do two things: 1. as a diversion to keep emergency response vehicles from being able to arrive in time to rescue the prince should he only be wounded, and 2. To blow up fuel tanks at the nearby airport to ground flights and cover their escape.

The upper floors of the Mandalay Bay Casino were owned by rival Saudi Prince, who was a huge Clinton Foundation doner and a massive stakeowner in twitter and several american major tv networks. The assassination attempt was meant to trigger a coup that would put him on the thrown in Saudi Arabia, but it backfired completely. The crown prince was unharmed, and the rival prince was arrested, imprisoned, and had much of his wealth confiscated.

The FBI is trying to keep the whole thing quiet because the arms smuggler was one used routinely by the FBI and CIA for all kinds of clandestine operations, and was allegedly involved in a lot more than just smuggling weapons. He was supposedly tied to sex trafficking and a pedophile ranch out in the Philippines.

However, all of this is just speculation.


More believable than "No motive" tbh
Posted by SCLibertarian
Conway, South Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
42652 posts
Posted on 1/29/19 at 12:33 pm to
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Which begs the question - if you're orchestrating a cover-up, wouldn't you establish a clear motive (even if it's false) in order to satisfy the masses?

The average American has the attention span of a gnat. When you combine that with the fact that mainstream media outlets have essentially been absent in providing any critical analysis about the investigation, the majority of the public doesn't care.
Posted by X123F45
Member since Apr 2015
29994 posts
Posted on 1/29/19 at 12:38 pm to
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91871 posts
Posted on 1/29/19 at 12:39 pm to
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The average American has the attention span of a gnat. When you combine that with the fact that mainstream media outlets have essentially been absent in providing any critical analysis about the investigation, the majority of the public doesn't care.


So they went through all of that to cover up some CIA operation, but they didn't think providing a clear motive was a worthwhile endeavor?

I'm just trying to get a handle on what you and others are suggesting.
Posted by Ed Osteen
Member since Oct 2007
59341 posts
Posted on 1/29/19 at 12:40 pm to
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Even crazy people have "motives," however far-fetched they may seem to normal people.


I get what you are saying but that doesn't mean his motive wasn't just that he's crazy and wanted to shoot a bunch of people. The article even said he just wanted to be infamous.
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