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re: AP Admits Alex Jones Trial Was Just For ‘Show’ And Will Soon Be Thrown Out
Posted on 12/13/22 at 12:25 pm to East Coast Band
Posted on 12/13/22 at 12:25 pm to East Coast Band
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I think at one time the AP was not as bad as their partisan hack selves are now.
At one time, they were the backbone of an independent press with local newspapers generally being partisan. But even then, those papers generally segregated hard news from opinion and editorializing.
We have no non-partisan independent press now from what I can tell.
Posted on 12/13/22 at 12:25 pm to WDE24
Thanks for the correction, it looks like this is true.
As a meta-point apropos of nothing, if we end up posting something false, we should try to correct it.
As a meta-point apropos of nothing, if we end up posting something false, we should try to correct it.
Posted on 12/13/22 at 12:30 pm to crazy4lsu
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as with everything you wrote about immunology
This is not the first time you have said this to to me so something I wrote must be sticking in your craw. I wish you would have brought up (maybe you did and I just missed it) because I do not remember writing a comment about immunology beyond well established basics.
Posted on 12/13/22 at 12:32 pm to GumboPot
Is there a link to the AP actually admitting this? I don't think the AP said that.
The only reference in the article you linked is a link to an InfoWars article with a video of some random attorney saying there is a possibility of the ruling being thrown out.
The only reference in the article you linked is a link to an InfoWars article with a video of some random attorney saying there is a possibility of the ruling being thrown out.
Posted on 12/13/22 at 12:33 pm to GumboPot
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This is not the first time you have said this to to me so something I wrote must be sticking in your craw. I wish you would have brought up (maybe you did and I just missed it) because I do not remember writing a comment about immunology beyond well established basics.
Nah, I just remember it was stupid, like pretty much everything people wrote about immunology.
Posted on 12/13/22 at 12:34 pm to tigercross
Go ahead and answer him, Gumbo. You should edit your thread title if you can't support it.
Posted on 12/13/22 at 12:35 pm to JohnnyKilroy
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Gumbopot and OML consistently post misleading or outright fake articles and try to pass them off as real. shite is hilarious.
Hey man, don't forget Strannix. He'd be insulted.
Posted on 12/13/22 at 12:38 pm to TigerDoc
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Go ahead and answer him, Gumbo. You should edit your thread title if you can't support it.
The thread title is the titled of the article. I'm just going to leave it alone. If the admins want to anchor or whack the thread, have at it.
This post was edited on 12/13/22 at 12:40 pm
Posted on 12/13/22 at 12:41 pm to GumboPot
Confirmed troll. You knew it was inaccurate, but enjoy the attention from posting fake info. But also gets really mad at others posting fake info that goes against your preferred narrative. jjdoc jr
Posted on 12/13/22 at 12:43 pm to WDE24
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You knew it was inaccurate
I really didn't albeit I looked for the AP link when I read the article. I posted it anyway because I know there is a lot of interest in Alex Jones and Sandy Hook.
Posted on 12/13/22 at 12:54 pm to GumboPot
quote:That’s worse, tbh.
I really didn't
Posted on 12/13/22 at 1:04 pm to Liberator
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For clarification...Who again was "defamed"? And to what damaging degree? By what claim? (was the claim ever proven either way?)
1. Jones was sued by the families for defamation. These are the plaintiffs and they claimed they were defamed.
2. Jones did not answer the lawsuit, meaning he ignored it.
3. A default judgment was entered against him.
4. That means it was established without the need for proof that he did in fact defame the people as alleged by them.
5. The trial was to establish damages.
6. The jury awarded damages, meaning that they believed the plaintiffs were in fact damaged meaning yes, they proved damages.
7. The jury verdict was reduced to a judgment, that is collectible
8. Plaintiffs can now seek to collect on the judgment barring any suspensive type appeals
Posted on 12/13/22 at 1:27 pm to GumboPot
Not sure what I'm missing here but 1 random attorney posting what Jones' legal team strategy likely will be with regards to an appeal equals the AP admitting the trial was just for show and will soon be thrown out?
Posted on 12/13/22 at 1:31 pm to shel311
When I take my male enhancements I love to read infowars. I'm so manly now! Grrrr!
Posted on 12/13/22 at 1:45 pm to Demshoes
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The jury verdict was reduced to a judgment, that is collectible
Once final start attaching the judgment to everything the man owns or touches.
Put a full time investigator on Jones, if he takes a shite the creditors need to know about.
Jones is scum so he will try and make money off the books and not report it. Follow, gather evidence of his contempt and report to the Court and ask for a Contempt Ruling, maybe 60 or 90 days in jail will help him comply with the Courts Orders.
Set up a Deposition schedule (every 90 days or so) to ask under oath if he is genuinely seeking employment to satisfy the judgment, if not Rule him in for Contempt.
Posted on 12/13/22 at 1:49 pm to Demshoes
I get the impression some posters think Jones was defaulted as a result of some inadvertence (honest mistake) or his part or that of his attorneys. It was not,
As I understand it, Jones and his lawyers refused to answer and more tellingly, refused to answer discovery.
Seems to me that was a deliberate strategy and one which may have had some credible wisdom for a defendant who was going to get deserved, expensive justice from nearly any jury.
Discovery would have only underscored his callousness and maliciousness and revealed information about his sources, methods, and quackery that could have forever damaged him as a celebrity. He was in a no win situation he richly deserved.
As I understand it, Jones and his lawyers refused to answer and more tellingly, refused to answer discovery.
Seems to me that was a deliberate strategy and one which may have had some credible wisdom for a defendant who was going to get deserved, expensive justice from nearly any jury.
Discovery would have only underscored his callousness and maliciousness and revealed information about his sources, methods, and quackery that could have forever damaged him as a celebrity. He was in a no win situation he richly deserved.
Posted on 12/13/22 at 1:58 pm to GumboPot
AP didn't admit anything. That's an attorney saying that. Also can you give us a heads up if you link some sketchy site?
Although I'm guessing if you're standing on the side of Alex Jones you don't care about sketchy websites or the truth.
Although I'm guessing if you're standing on the side of Alex Jones you don't care about sketchy websites or the truth.
Posted on 12/13/22 at 2:26 pm to Demshoes
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Except you generally cannot discharge debts for intentional torts. And defamation is an intentional tort
Where is the defamation?
Did Jones accuse the parents or the kids of staging the shooting?
Posted on 12/13/22 at 3:02 pm to Demshoes
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Except you generally cannot discharge debts for intentional torts. And defamation is an intentional tort. So there's that.
The problem with this is it was a default judgment after sanctions related to his non-cooperation with discovery. The Court chose the most serious sanctions by striking his pleadings and entering a default judgment. There was never findings made that his actions were willful and malicious after hearing any proof. That's going to be a problem in the COA as they don't like when cases aren't heard on the merits, and it's also going to create shades of grey whether the debts are dischargeable or not.
This post was edited on 12/13/22 at 3:22 pm
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