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re: Anyone else read the “AI 2027” Scenario?

Posted on 8/14/25 at 3:51 am to
Posted by Free888
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Posted on 8/14/25 at 3:51 am to
The disruption in the coding world may be accurate. The guys on the All In podcast are already using the models for coding at their companies, with the employees focused on the testing of the code.
Posted by Breesus
House of the Rising Sun
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Posted on 8/14/25 at 4:46 am to
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The computer is not "reasoning" the same way we do, it is just better at parsing large data sets better than what we are accustomed to


I use ChatGPT as a personal assistant and it is amazing. It took me a few months to code and trouble shoot it the way I want. It is definitely not “intelligent.”

I think between people ascribing humanity to it and just ignorance they are too quick to claim AI is actually intelligent. It’s not.

That being said it is absolutely an economic and social disruption.

AI can and will replace a ton of jobs especially menial jobs like data entry and analytics and marketing, etc.

You’ll still ultimately need a human to review the data but even right now in my industry what used to take a person days in data review now takes hours and I can see that getting down to minutes in the near future.

The much much bigger problem is the evil class of power hungry lunatics trying to use learning models for their own goals like authoritarian fascism and social revolution and to that end “AIs” ability to algorithmically manipulate society is absolutely terrifying.
Posted by Upperdecker
St. George, LA
Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 8/14/25 at 5:04 am to
I do believe AI is an existential threat to humanity, but these timelines are getting out of hand. They’re all becoming more extreme based on a perfect exponential growth curve that becomes more rapid every day. We are not achieving ASI in two years. This won’t follow a true exponential growth curve.

We’re going to see a plateau in advancement sometime in the near future most likely, since progress is human driven and innately creative and that usually results in plateaus prior to breakthroughs, and the reaction to that will determine whether we survive ASI
Posted by Breesus
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Posted on 8/14/25 at 5:08 am to
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We’re going to see a plateau in advancement sometime in the near future most likely


They’ll use AI to perfect nuclear power plants and then build them next to the data centers.

The problem is the absolutely absurd amounts of power and water these data centers demand.
Posted by Odysseus32
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 8/14/25 at 5:10 am to
All the shite I get for being auditor.

Seems like my job will be just fine.

The issue will be the hordes of unemployed tech people who understand systems and control processes better than myself gunning for my job.

Guess I still better learn to code.
Posted by Upperdecker
St. George, LA
Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 8/14/25 at 5:11 am to
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dont think anyone really understands that LLMs are not really true AI in the way normal people use term (science fiction movies). The computer is not "reasoning" the same way we do, it is just better at parsing large data sets better than what we are accustomed to.

Absolutely. It’s still a mathematical model at this point. But we have people thinking they are dating the LLM they talk to, so we are already seeing peak hysteria.

I don’t understand the experts theorizing a relatively instant breakthrough from the AI we currently have to AGI or theorized ASI. All the extremes jump out to us rapidly developing AI with no hiccups and a smooth exponential growth curve, including the leaps and bounds to go from a mathematical model to a thinking and reasoning ASI. There will be a large plateau in development where we hit a wall, potentially based on power like you suggested, or based on hitting a temporary human creative wall
Posted by Upperdecker
St. George, LA
Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 8/14/25 at 5:14 am to
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They’ll use AI to perfect nuclear power plants and then build them next to the data centers. The problem is the absolutely absurd amounts of power and water these data centers demand.

It’s a huge problem in the US, absolutely. We have a massive power grid limitation. China on the other hand has tons of power and it’s growing its grid massively with a big nuclear expansion push.

In the US, we have a chance to catch up if Trump continues to push forward on nuclear regulatory reform. There are a number of nuclear companies with extremely good, inherently safe designs that are starting to work through the regulatory entanglement
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 8/14/25 at 5:31 am to
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The disruption in the coding world may be accurate.


IF "AI" continues to develop as predicted, not this AGI sentient bullshite, but as simply a technological advancement, all white collar jobs are on the table in phase 1.

Phase 1:
The soft stage

Lawyers
Insurance Underwriters
IT Support
Coders
Project Managers
Business Analysts
Data Analysts
Financial Analysts
Tax Consultants
Accountants
Alot of Engineers
Architects
Systems Analysts
Data Scientists
Most Cybersecurity Analysts
Alot of mid level diagnostic medical positions
etc, etc

And ironically, the ones easiest to replace - all the suits in the c-suites

Phase 2:
The medical device, digital currency, UBI, simple robotics stage: once the AI companies consolidate billions/trillions based on their absurd subscription models from replacing the above and crashing the economy lowering the costs of everything while healthcare dwindles, the next wave of advances will revolve around giving those who have lost the jobs above a new place to work in robotics. Assuming governments aren't bought and paid off by these companies, they will try to gain control of the AI industry as a "public service" to maintain order. Either way, cheap robotic labor/tech will be developed that will replace:

Almost all mid-level medical providers
Almost all diagnostic medical providers
Almost all claims clearing-houses
Almost all insurance processing
Almost all billing and tax processing across the board
Police forces will shrink on the patrol side

At this point, some idiots will have successfully pushed for a digital currency because that was always the goal.

We will then be pushed towards UBI with social credit scores used to maintain order

Phase 3:
The advanced robotics, international cyber-warfare stage

Assuming society doesn't completely collapse by this point, this is the advanced robotics wave

Most Wielders
Most Surgeons
etc etc

This will come with advanced warfare we won't be prepared for.

The limiting factors will be metals, energy, the knowledge bootstrap problem, and the human capacity to push forward with this bullshite

This post was edited on 8/14/25 at 6:09 am
Posted by TigerFanatic99
South Bend, Indiana
Member since Jan 2007
34416 posts
Posted on 8/14/25 at 5:53 am to
Im sticking with my prediction that I will retire before we see a legitimate, mainstream AGI. I'm in my 40s, for reference.
Posted by FLObserver
Jacksonville
Member since Nov 2005
15699 posts
Posted on 8/14/25 at 5:58 am to
I mean if Hollywood writers,dock workers , autoworker unions etc... all want to unplug A.I. to save jobs then why not everyone else?
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 8/14/25 at 6:06 am to
So... Skynet
Posted by TulsaSooner78
Member since Aug 2025
705 posts
Posted on 8/14/25 at 6:06 am to
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How so? I haven’t heard anything of it solving the world’s pest problems.


Not sure what he means by "irrelevant", but AI makes it easier to detect and react to infestations, leading to more efficient pesticide usage.

Link to story about how AI helps with pest management.

Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
59946 posts
Posted on 8/14/25 at 6:13 am to
LLMs are just highly sophistical language prediction systems. They don't understand anything. Think "google search autocomplete" on steroids. LLMs have to incorporate with multiple agents and other more complex reasoning systems (like code interpreters, calculators, etc) in hybrid architectures to advance further, as of today.

Ultimately, the limit of any "AI" system is going to be the human knowledge that feeds it, making it difficult for AI surpass human knowledge.There would be no verification process other than a self-referential, possibly incoherent, one for the AI system.
This post was edited on 8/14/25 at 6:14 am
Posted by TigersnJeeps
FL Panhandle
Member since Jan 2021
2606 posts
Posted on 8/14/25 at 6:35 am to
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...while research agents scour the internet for answers


Does this mean that the less we put on the internet, the harder it will be for AI to advance?

Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
59946 posts
Posted on 8/14/25 at 6:36 am to
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Does this mean that the less we put on the internet, the harder it will be for AI to advance?


Pretty much
Posted by MAXtheTIGER
Title town
Member since Dec 2006
1102 posts
Posted on 8/14/25 at 7:03 am to
Can Asimov’s Three Laws of Robotics save us?
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
59946 posts
Posted on 8/14/25 at 7:08 am to
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Can Asimov’s Three Laws of Robotics save us?


They don't apply

Current LLM systems can’t meaningfully understand what harm is, they don’t actually obey in any intentional sense because they just generate responses based on statistical patterns, and have no concept of self-preservation or existence because they’re stateless text generators
This post was edited on 8/14/25 at 7:10 am
Posted by PhiTiger1764
Lurker since Aug 2003
Member since Oct 2009
14413 posts
Posted on 8/14/25 at 7:39 am to
I watched that whole video and I gotta say the idea of AGI and what it will be capable of is pretty terrifying. The timeline predictions (2030ish) seem outrageous.

With that said, I’m in my 30s. I plan to be around another 50+ years and I don’t want to ever see this shite come to fruition. But 50 years is a long time for advancement…
Posted by lowhound
Effie
Member since Aug 2014
9487 posts
Posted on 8/14/25 at 7:42 am to
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• Job Disruption: By 2027, AI automates coding and research, reducing demand for programmers and researchers. Industries like customer service and data analysis face upheaval.

Too bad for all those "learn to code" a-holes
This post was edited on 8/14/25 at 7:43 am
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
119977 posts
Posted on 8/14/25 at 8:27 am to
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How so? I haven’t heard anything of it solving the world’s pest problems.


There is some AI that you can add to your equipment that can instantly tell in deficiencies in the crop whether it be a bad batch or if an animal or blight is going after it. So you no longer have to mass poison your crops to the same degree. Now some pesticides are still relevant, but hopefully it will make extreme toxic chemicals on our food like Glyphosate a thing of the past.
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