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re: Anyone do volunteer coaching for youth sports…does it ever get better?

Posted on 2/15/24 at 1:17 pm to
Posted by Privateer 2007
Member since Jan 2020
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Posted on 2/15/24 at 1:17 pm to
I have coached special Olympics and loved it.

Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 2/15/24 at 1:17 pm to
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What age group are you talking about?


i was talking like 10 and up in rec. travel is different, best player should play majority no matter age. everyone should play though.

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Excluding missing practice, the "good kids" shouldn't get 90% of the playing time because the adult coach is chasing a plastic ring (not saying that is you). THe goal of coaching young kids (5-9) is to make sure they learn the game, have fun, and want to continue playing the game.


i know you werent talking about me, i was just saying in general you play the kids that excel, atleast by 11/12. everyone should play but you shouldnt reward the kids that dont try, do practice at home etc imo

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My older son is 9 and is just starting to put it all together with baseball. His swing is much more natural and his throwing is advancing as well. However, because he wasn't a world beater at 6, he was excluded from the "good" teams and never given a chance. That is the problem with youth sports, especially in Baton Rouge. The coaches are the ones that care about the plastic rings, not hte kids. And the coaches only play kids to win, not to actually teach them (also known as coaching) the game. Excluding the "bad kids" at young ages makes them hate the sport and never want to play.


disagree...what makes the kids hate the sport is not excelling and nobody taking the time to work with them and some kids just dont like sports and thats ok.

from what i have seen the kids care way more about winning, atleast the teams i have been around. I have kids at all levels, majors level travel ball to my older just being a league kid so i couldnt care any less about any of the winning, to me its all just competitive practice to prep for high school. but the kids care a lot. especially as they get older.

tball and even coach pitch...most rec kids dont care, will agree with that.
Posted by SalE
At the beach
Member since Jan 2020
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Posted on 2/15/24 at 1:17 pm to
Parents in baseball are terrible...football was much better.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
38031 posts
Posted on 2/15/24 at 1:18 pm to
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Youth baseball is the worst. Absolute worst. Parents ruin everything for these kids... Neither football, basketball, track, soccer, nor lacrosse is like this. It's purely baseball parents. I don't understand it.



lol na...thats just what you have been exposed to. atleast with travel....soccer, aau basketball and even the 7v7 football...is way worse.
Posted by White Bear
probably
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 2/15/24 at 1:18 pm to
When choosing your team, it is wise to choose parents as well as players.
Posted by bamaguy17
Member since Jul 2022
1282 posts
Posted on 2/15/24 at 1:24 pm to
In my experience, 11/12 year olds it gets better. The parents have usually been around awhile and know what their kids all about. This past year, I had several 9/10 parents be complete dumb asses. Case in point: halftime of a playoff game a dad asks me why I can't let his kid run the ball. My words exactly "you're son has never practiced offense, much less running back. Sorry". He didn't like that. I walked away.

ETA: I only spoke to him because I had never seen him before and thought something might be wrong.
This post was edited on 2/15/24 at 1:26 pm
Posted by BR92
Member since Apr 2021
1059 posts
Posted on 2/15/24 at 1:25 pm to
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The playground where I started coaching my kids sold beer during the games



When I played pee wee baseball back in the early 1970's there were a couple of Fathers who would bring an ice chest full of beer. They would sit on the cooler and drink the beer. By the fourth inning it was pathetic the way they would act. I know their kids must have been proud. This often occurred even at early and day games.

I was always grateful that my Dad never embarrassed me like that.
Posted by DeoreDX
Member since Oct 2010
4337 posts
Posted on 2/15/24 at 1:25 pm to
I coach in an interschoolastic mountain biking league. For a rec league it's been an amazing experience. No arguing over PT everyone who wants to race can race. Parents see their kids off the start line and when they cross the finish line. No refs to yell or curse at. No crying about little Johnny's playing time. For the most part competition of friendly. Kids support each other. Mountain Bikers tend to be a pretty chill lot. Can highly recommend if you want a sport your kid can participate in.
Posted by clamdip
Rocky Mountain High
Member since Sep 2004
21520 posts
Posted on 2/15/24 at 1:35 pm to
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na...thats just what you have been exposed to. atleast with travel....soccer, aau basketball and even the 7v7 football...is way worse.

I think they can all be bad experiences. My niece was.in travel volleyball in Alabama and it was a nightmare.
Posted by 9Fiddy
19th Hole
Member since Jan 2007
66982 posts
Posted on 2/15/24 at 1:42 pm to
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I have coached special Olympics and loved it.


Posted by CHEDBALLZ
South Central LA
Member since Dec 2009
23243 posts
Posted on 2/15/24 at 1:47 pm to
This is 7U Rec, it should be a fun experience with all the kids.
Posted by Bigfishchoupique
Member since Jul 2017
9606 posts
Posted on 2/15/24 at 1:49 pm to
Never have coached and never have played. When I was in fifth grade we moved to a new town. There were ten boys in my grade. I became number 11.

The year previous year there were two other boys in the class so the had a 12 guy team.

The year I tried to play the coach didn’t care for me so he made it a ten man team. I was the only that could not play.

So I went home and got into my boat and went play in the bayous after school. Still doing it.

Frick ball game sports. I want to go fishing.

This post was edited on 2/15/24 at 1:50 pm
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
41043 posts
Posted on 2/15/24 at 2:11 pm to
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Kids start too young in organized sports…just have fun until at least U9 or U10


The kids ARE having fun, until the parents start running their mouths.

If there are kids in a league, they are parents pushing the kids.

I don't know if having NO leagues at all until U9 is a good answer.

It's a mess.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
41043 posts
Posted on 2/15/24 at 2:13 pm to
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I think parents should be banned from attending games. 99% of of the problems will go away.


Back when I wsa umpiring in high school / college (this was late 90s), Woodlake playground in Kenner did something awesome one baseball season.

They put up black plastic vinyl from basically one foul pole around the backstop to the other foul pole, and moved all the bleachers behind the outfield fence.

Most calm, fun, and rational environment I've ever seen for youth sports.
Posted by KWL85
Member since Mar 2023
3775 posts
Posted on 2/15/24 at 2:13 pm to
Coached tackle football, flag football, and basketball. 10+ years. Mostly enjoyable. Still do it.

I send an email before first practice, and have a parents meeting at conclusion of first practice. Be clear parents will not have say in playing time! Very clear! Let them know there is always a shortage of coaches if they want to be involved, but that they will not be involved in coaching this team. I lay out that criteria for playing time will include skill, work-effort, attendance, player's listening skills. I also explain that all players gain much of the value from being on a team in practice vs game time.

With that being said, you have to stand your ground when challenged or they will walk all over you. And you have to get some playing time for your weak players. I don't make playing time even, but always have an assistant coach help keep track of who needs playing time. I have learned to get some PT for weak players throughout the games. Winning games is always one of my goals. I try not to be in the position of getting late in a game and needing to get too many weak players in at same time.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
41043 posts
Posted on 2/15/24 at 2:16 pm to
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IMO Parents don’t have a right to say shite to a volunteer coach unless they want to step up and coach the team themselves.


From a league coordinator point of view, this is the biggest thing.

We have enough kids for 6 teams. 4 parents step up to coach, 3 of whom don't want to be HC. We have to beg and borrow to get 6 head coaches.

Then, the complaints from the parents start rolling in. My kid isn't playing enough, coach isn't teaching my kids enough, our team isn't any good, we want to switch teams, etc.

Me, always: Understood, would you be willing to take over as the coach?

Whiny parent: oh no, I have work / other kids / too many obligations / don't know how to coach, etc
Posted by MSTiger33
Member since Oct 2007
21656 posts
Posted on 2/15/24 at 2:19 pm to
I help coach grades 3-4 girls rec ball. I have to say that it has been a pleasant experience so far with one exception of these two meatheads coaching another team. They were fine at first but got progressively worse as we pulled away. I don’t see why people get worked up over these games. Most coaches are cordial and help the girls on both teams understand the rules.
Posted by Cowboyfan89
Member since Sep 2015
13046 posts
Posted on 2/15/24 at 2:20 pm to
I've been coaching since last Spring (tee-ball and then coach pitch in the fall), and thankfully we have some good parents in the league. They don't get overly involved, aren't cussing umps.

There's some that think their kid is God's gift to baseball, and don't even care about the kid doing cartwheels on short and then booting the ball into center on the next play, but that's anywhere.
Posted by HuskyPanda
Philly
Member since Feb 2018
2413 posts
Posted on 2/15/24 at 2:26 pm to
I say it depends on both the sport being played and the organization. I coached flag football for a few years and the parents were great. Never had an issue with the parents. The kids however...made me respect educators. But at least I can yell at the kids and make them run laps.
Posted by HattiesburgTiger5439
Hattiesburg ms
Member since Sep 2023
1121 posts
Posted on 2/15/24 at 2:26 pm to
Yes its a shite show. But the whole point of any sport is to win.
Im not a everyone gets a trophy kind of guy. If yall get up or are getting blown out then play the other kids. Dont play daddy ball, those coaches are the worst! If your kids not good enough your not doing your job as a parent. Get i. The yard and work with them.
In the end your the coach, dont let the parents dictate shite. Tell them if they dont like rhe way you coach they can take the kid to another team. Every parent thinks there kid is the best and needs to play.
Winning cures everything, play ti win and not to let all the kids play.
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