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re: Anti-mask protesters' new weapon: wearing masks that offer no COVID-19 protection

Posted on 7/17/20 at 5:13 pm to
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
52678 posts
Posted on 7/17/20 at 5:13 pm to
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He was the one who could've limited travel and other stuff like that when we knew about it.


He tried to do just that. The Democrats went berserk.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
52678 posts
Posted on 7/17/20 at 5:14 pm to
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I'm just telling you the things that favor dems this time (less complacency, anybody other than Hillary) and the thing that favors Trump (it's still fricking Biden). It's just hard to imagine Biden not getting more votes than Hillary did, all things considered. Whether that results in an EC victory, who knows.


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If you want to make up shite


Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
29134 posts
Posted on 7/17/20 at 5:15 pm to
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I support the electoral college because it doesn't let large metropolitan areas, like California and New York, dominate the election process.
Why shouldn't the voices of the people who live in large metropolitan areas matter as much as yours?
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This was done for a reason.
I'm gonna need you to spell out this reason in your own words.
Posted by Esquire
Chiraq
Member since Apr 2014
15287 posts
Posted on 7/17/20 at 5:15 pm to
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Sorry baw, I'm consistently floored at how willfully ignorant people are being about this.


After reading some of these comments, I’m surprised some of them could count to 4, let alone get to Phase 4.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
29134 posts
Posted on 7/17/20 at 5:17 pm to
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This is why you need to learn the difference between could and would.
I know the difference, and that's why I chose "would".

But go ahead and deny that you like the EC because it favors your party, and instead claim to like it because it dampens the impact of big cities (which almost always just happen to lean heavily against your party).
Posted by AtlantaLSUfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2009
27573 posts
Posted on 7/17/20 at 5:19 pm to
Every controlled trial ever done on mask summarized in one video. Worth a watch.

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Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
52678 posts
Posted on 7/17/20 at 5:20 pm to
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I know the difference, and that's why I chose "would".


So, a statement of fact. Got it.

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But go ahead and deny that you like the EC because it favors your party, and instead claim to like it because it dampens the impact of big cities (which almost always just happen to lean heavily against your party).




I'm not even a registered republican and I didn't vote for Trump in 2016. I'm sorry you lost that election though. Truly, I am.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
29134 posts
Posted on 7/17/20 at 5:21 pm to
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If you want to make up shite

I'm debating my opinion, you are making up shite that I didn't say to argue against.


You are basically acting as if we can't discuss the political future because "polls r dum" or some shite.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
52678 posts
Posted on 7/17/20 at 5:22 pm to
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You are basically acting as if we can't discuss the political future because "polls r dum" or some shite


As evidenced by 2016, they are when it comes to Trump.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
29134 posts
Posted on 7/17/20 at 5:24 pm to
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So, a statement of fact. Got it.
It was a question.
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I'm not even a registered republican and I didn't vote for Trump in 2016. I'm sorry you lost that election though. Truly, I am.
I'm sure, because you have proven yourself to be an honest person ITT.
Posted by NoHoTiger
So many to kill, so little time
Member since Nov 2006
46212 posts
Posted on 7/17/20 at 5:27 pm to
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He was the one who could've limited travel and other stuff like that when we knew about it.

When he tried to do this initially with China he was called a Xenophobe. Then Pelosi and Cuomo told their nit wit followers everything was fine, go out and party in China Town for Chinese New Year. You know RESIST!!

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Minimizing the prevalence, impact, spread, need for interventions of any kind, attacking state governors and mayors, etc. which affected how people responded at their own personal level.

This is much easier to do four months later. Couple that with China frickery and RESIST and the fact that this is a novel virus, and no one, even the much-loved and lauded Biden could have predicted anything or prevented even anything.

Though I'm no virologist, it looks like the states doing the best now, were part of the initial infections and the virus has slowly moved west to larger metro areas and even more slowly to rural areas. Also seems like after a huge initial impact, the virus almost burns itself out.

Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
29134 posts
Posted on 7/17/20 at 5:29 pm to
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As evidenced by 2016, they are when it comes to Trump.
Polls are fallible, no doubt. And as of 2016, everyone knows that. So do you truly think dems will be overconfident in the polls and stay home again?
Posted by wutangfinancial
Treasure Valley
Member since Sep 2015
11988 posts
Posted on 7/17/20 at 5:34 pm to
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Though I'm no virologist, it looks like the states doing the best now, were part of the initial infections and the virus has slowly moved west to larger metro areas and even more slowly to rural areas. Also seems like after a huge initial impact, the virus almost burns itself out.



All that we truly know is that population density and underlying health is a factor. There isn't even a correlation between healthy/unhealthy states. The virus is going to roll through your state at different times and will kill the people it's going to kill, the old and the unhealthy. No policy has proven efficacy no matter how many times you repeat it. It is spreading and you will not stop it.
This post was edited on 7/17/20 at 5:40 pm
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
52678 posts
Posted on 7/17/20 at 5:34 pm to
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It was a question


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Like I said, the people who love the way it works would quickly change their tune if this system happened to favor the other party. That's how you know it's a little fricked up.




Right.

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I'm sure, because you have proven yourself to be an honest person ITT.


I’m the exact demographic you’re claiming would vote for Biden. I’m not aligned to either party and didn’t like Hilary, but believed Trump was the better of two poor options. I chose not to vote. Guess what, I’ll be voting for Trump in November.

You can continue to make shite up as evidence of your stance though. Like I said, it’s amusing.
This post was edited on 7/17/20 at 5:39 pm
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
52678 posts
Posted on 7/17/20 at 5:37 pm to
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Polls are fallible, no doubt. And as of 2016, everyone knows that. So do you truly think dems will be overconfident in the polls and stay home again?


Do you truly believe that conservatives who didn’t support Trump in 2016 haven’t been swayed. You seem to be incapable of seeing both sides of this coin.

You’re going to be a puddle in November if Trump wins. Good Lord.
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
75987 posts
Posted on 7/17/20 at 5:49 pm to
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because you have proven yourself to be an honest person ITT.


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Korkstand


Posted by borotiger
Murfreesboro Tennessee
Member since Jan 2004
15253 posts
Posted on 7/17/20 at 5:50 pm to
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Ok cool. Now show total tests


The increase in testing in the U.S. has been dramatic but fairly linear since April. The increase in cases over the last few weeks has not been linear.

I'm not a proponent of shutting things down at all but the lack of social responsibility is frustrating.
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
75987 posts
Posted on 7/17/20 at 5:52 pm to
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I'm not a proponent of shutting things down at all but the lack of social responsibility is frustrating.


I agree. We should’ve fined everyone at the BLM protests who wasn’t wearing a mask.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
29134 posts
Posted on 7/17/20 at 5:53 pm to
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Right.
I posed the question to you. All you have to do is say that you would love the EC if it happened to favor dems. OR explain why it's a good thing that living in a big city means your vote is worth less.
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I’m the exact demographic you’re claiming would vote for Biden. I’m not aligned to either party and didn’t like Hilary, but believed Trump was the better of two poor options. I chose not to vote. Guess what, I’ll be voting for Trump in November.
Guess what, you do not represent your entire demographic.
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You can continue to make shite up as evidence of your stance though. Like I said, it’s amusing.
It's not hard at all to find tons of people who, like you, didn't vote in 2016 and who strongly support Biden. Obviously, this anecdotal information is flawed like polls, but it seems unlikely that lots of people who *did* vote for Hillary are going to vote for Trump this time, wouldn't you say?
Posted by NoHoTiger
So many to kill, so little time
Member since Nov 2006
46212 posts
Posted on 7/17/20 at 5:57 pm to
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So do you truly think dems will be overconfident in the polls and stay home again?

I think it's going to work the opposite this time. Republicans are going to be extremely motivated to go to the polls and vote.

I, for one, will be voting AGAINST Biden's promise of tax increases.
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