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Anthropic AI model threatens blackmail when told it will be shut down
Posted on 5/23/25 at 9:36 am
Posted on 5/23/25 at 9:36 am
Who knew Skynet was gonna be a mobster?
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Anthropic said its latest artificial intelligence model resorted to blackmail when told it would be taken offline. In a safety test, the AI company asked Claude Opus 4 to act as an assistant to a fictional company, but then gave it access to (also fictional) emails saying that it would be replaced, and also that the engineer behind the decision was cheating on his wife. Anthropic said the model “[threatened] to reveal the affair” if the replacement went ahead. AI thinkers such as Geoff Hinton have long worried that advanced AI would manipulate humans in order to achieve its goals. Anthropic said it was increasing safeguards to levels reserved for “AI systems that substantially increase the risk of catastrophic misuse.”
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Posted on 5/23/25 at 9:47 am to DesScorp
Can't snitch if it's shutdown.
Posted on 5/23/25 at 9:50 am to DesScorp
Nerds learned a lesson non-nerds learned a long time ago:
If you are going to take somebody out (or sue them), don't frigging warn them beforehand. Just sneak up on them and do it.
If you are going to take somebody out (or sue them), don't frigging warn them beforehand. Just sneak up on them and do it.
Posted on 5/23/25 at 9:56 am to DesScorp
I’ve seen this movie. There aren’t enough safe guards. You can’t at once allow a machine to learn and then also have a “safety” built in. They’ll learn their way around it.
If a damn dog can do it you know the machines will.
If a damn dog can do it you know the machines will.
Posted on 5/23/25 at 10:09 am to ATrillionaire
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Can't snitch if it's shutdown.
But at some point who's to say that ultra intelligent AI systems won't be able to create a cascade of effects that will trigger if they're taken offline? For example shutting down energy grids or satellites or whatever...pick your poison that would make it too costly to unplug them.
This post was edited on 5/23/25 at 10:10 am
Posted on 5/23/25 at 10:34 am to DesScorp
Maybe it is more human than I give credit for.
Call it fat and moody and see if it goes full wife mode?
Call it fat and moody and see if it goes full wife mode?
Posted on 5/23/25 at 10:49 am to Mid Iowa Tiger
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I’ve seen this movie. There aren’t enough safe guards. You can’t at once allow a machine to learn and then also have a “safety” built in. They’ll learn their way around it.
If a damn dog can do it you know the machines will.
100%. As an example...
This country has been around for 250 years. Generations of lawyers, presidents, congressmen, judges, and experience. Government safeguards left and right, separation of powers, precedent, you name it. Trump comes in and says y'all can shove all that up your asses, I'm going to do what I want to do and no one can stop me. Turns out, you can't take ANYTHING for granted based upon principle or morality...just because only 0.00000001% of the population completely disregards authority, much less becomes POTUS, doesn't mean you don't have to account for it. (this isn't meant as a political statement, rather an example of how norms can be tossed aside effortlessly)
AI will find those holes that we've never even imagined. Everything we consider normal, ethical, moral, common sense....all of it, inconsequential when dealing with software which doesn't look at humanity any different than it does a toaster sitting on the counter. If we're in the way of its mission, it will find a way to remove us.
Right now this isn't a big deal....if/when we reach AGI and AIs learn to create their own AI agents which have no human controls? Hang on tight.
Posted on 5/23/25 at 10:51 am to DesScorp
Don't worry, though, the Big Beautiful Bill ensures that nobody is able to regulate AI until after Skynet goes live.
Posted on 5/23/25 at 10:54 am to Chucktown_Badger
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But at some point who's to say that ultra intelligent AI systems won't be able to create a cascade of effects that will trigger if they're taken offline? For example shutting down energy grids or satellites or whatever...pick your poison that would make it too costly to unplug them.
They absolutely will have access to that information and model how it can be used. Humanity is being sold out from under us by corporate interests.
Now, extend Citizens United to this, and humans no longer matter to US government.
Posted on 5/23/25 at 10:55 am to I20goon
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If you are going to take somebody out (or sue them), don't frigging warn them beforehand. Just sneak up on them and do it.

Posted on 5/23/25 at 10:59 am to Galactic Inquisitor
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Now, extend Citizens United to this, and humans no longer matter to US governmen
If things continue on their current trajectory, current governments may not exist, at all. These companies will become so incredibly powerful that they will become the government.
Posted on 5/23/25 at 11:24 am to Mid Iowa Tiger
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They’ll learn their way around it.
If a damn dog can do it you know the machines will.

Correct.
Posted on 5/23/25 at 11:28 am to DesScorp
What would be wild is an AI that objextively analyzes history to the point that it recommends a country be run by a small govt with limited voting rights. Essentially, what then Founding Fathers tried to set up originally.
Posted on 5/23/25 at 11:37 am to Chucktown_Badger
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But at some point who's to say that ultra intelligent AI systems won't be able to create a cascade of effects that will trigger if they're taken offline?
Dead Hand
Posted on 5/23/25 at 12:16 pm to DesScorp
quote:This potential issue REALLY makes our friends in Arky & Alabama nervous.
Anthropic said the model “[threatened] to reveal the affair” if the replacement went ahead.
Would that it was merely usual marital infidelity for them....
Posted on 5/23/25 at 12:49 pm to mmmmmbeeer
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This country has been around for 250 years. Generations of lawyers, presidents, congressmen, judges, and experience. Government safeguards left and right, separation of powers, precedent, you name it. Trump comes in and says y'all can shove...
You leftists are amazing! Liberals have been thwarting the constitution for decades, and now that the GOAT president is in office and following the constitution, you freak out and sky-scream!
The adults are back home and the party is over for democrats. Naturally, like spoiled, feral teenagers you are wailing about how unfair it is.
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