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re: Another shooting rampage, this one in Virginia Beach

Posted on 5/31/19 at 9:10 pm to
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
45979 posts
Posted on 5/31/19 at 9:10 pm to
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NEED MOAR GUNZ!!!!



Yep a good guy or gal with a conceal carry and problem solved.
Posted by PiscesTiger
Concrete, WA
Member since Feb 2004
53696 posts
Posted on 5/31/19 at 9:15 pm to
Virginia seems to have a lot more of this lately -- dating back to the whole VT fiasco.
Posted by PrivatePublic
Member since Nov 2012
17848 posts
Posted on 5/31/19 at 9:17 pm to
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Having a law that stopped this guy from getting a gun would have stopped it.


what law would have let us know he was going to be the next mass shooter?

A pre-crime law maybe?
Posted by nola000
Lacombe, LA
Member since Dec 2014
13139 posts
Posted on 5/31/19 at 9:18 pm to
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most people just skim over a post like that. Your random caps make me think it’s crazy which it’s prob is


Good way to miss great information and a wonderful post because you're too immature to overlook some random capitalization.

Yay ignorance!
Posted by LaBR4
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
53963 posts
Posted on 5/31/19 at 9:21 pm to
Posted by TexasTiger08
Member since Oct 2006
30565 posts
Posted on 5/31/19 at 9:24 pm to
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Having a law that stopped this guy from getting a gun would have stopped it.


This is fricking stupid.

A friend of mine was killed in a car accident. The other driver had a suspended license. I’m so glad the laws worked and he was kept off the streets...
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
53814 posts
Posted on 5/31/19 at 9:30 pm to
Sad situation.

Haven't read this whole thread but I expect it's the usual knee jerk mass shooting reactions.

More gun control!

frick you commie!
This post was edited on 5/31/19 at 9:30 pm
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
53509 posts
Posted on 5/31/19 at 9:31 pm to
If a bunch of children getting murdered in their elementary school won't lead to any laws changing, I can't imagine any other type of mass shooting actually leading to any type of change.
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
53814 posts
Posted on 5/31/19 at 9:36 pm to
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If a bunch of children getting murdered in their elementary school won't lead to any laws changing, I can't imagine any other type of mass shooting actually leading to any type of change

I'm not advocating for any. I just hate the knee jerk reactions before we know all of the details.

Most of the people that have committed these crimes showed some pretty telling signs of being mentally unstable.
Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
37935 posts
Posted on 5/31/19 at 9:39 pm to
Will the gun controlls care since he was black and didn't use an "assault" rifle?
Posted by Capt ST
High Plains
Member since Aug 2011
13717 posts
Posted on 5/31/19 at 9:40 pm to
Hey we didn’t ban postal workers back in the day. They just started more stringent hiring practices
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
53509 posts
Posted on 5/31/19 at 9:42 pm to
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Having a law that stopped this guy from getting a gun would have stopped it.


Not sure how.

I read that there are over 390 million civilian-owned guns in the US (population ~325 million).

There are simply too many guns for any law to really work. There's nothing the government can do aside from confiscation, and we know that'll never happen. There will always be a gun available.
This post was edited on 5/31/19 at 9:45 pm
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91871 posts
Posted on 5/31/19 at 9:46 pm to
Yeah I think any logical person understands there are too many guns in the US for any gun control approach to truly have an impact.

Doesn't mean we should just mail it in, but we'll have to be creative and comprehensive.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
74688 posts
Posted on 5/31/19 at 9:47 pm to
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There's nothing the government can do aside from confiscation, and we know that'll never happen.
This.

The first president to try to outright ban handguns would see huge losses in the midterm elections.

The prospect of gun control turns out voters in huge numbers, mostly for the pro-gun side.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
74688 posts
Posted on 5/31/19 at 9:49 pm to
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Doesn't mean we should just mail it in, but we'll have to be creative and comprehensive.
It wouln't stop most shootings, but something I have long advocated is the gun violence restraining order (GVRO)

LINK

Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
53814 posts
Posted on 5/31/19 at 9:50 pm to
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Doesn't mean we should just mail it in, but we'll have to be creative and comprehensive.

Like what? Private sales and inheritance aren't tracked so they don't really know who owns what. That's by design.

The government isn't supposed to even keep the database of serial numbers matched to the purchaser for more than 24 hrs (or something like that) but I doubt they follow their own laws.
Posted by TigersHuskers
Nebraska
Member since Oct 2014
15523 posts
Posted on 5/31/19 at 9:56 pm to
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Doesn't mean we should just mail it in, but we'll have to be creative and comprehensive.


Registration is one step away from confiscation
Posted by jcaz
Laffy
Member since Aug 2014
19450 posts
Posted on 5/31/19 at 9:57 pm to
So by that logic then cars and pipes should be banned..... Just because a gun can be used in a crime like a car is breaking the law and speeding.

Cars and pipes aren’t constitutional rights though.....
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
Member since Apr 2010
41814 posts
Posted on 5/31/19 at 9:58 pm to
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10 years ago this would have been a huge story. Today it's just another shooting rampage.


And yet there's been private ownership of firearms since the beginning of this country. It's almost as if other factors than private ownership of firearms is responsible...
Posted by tankyank13
NOLA
Member since Nov 2012
8345 posts
Posted on 5/31/19 at 10:04 pm to
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Having a law that stopped this guy from getting a gun would have stopped it.


Uhh yeah, except we have that thing called the constitution.
This post was edited on 5/31/19 at 10:05 pm
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