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re: Another Loss for OneBR/TogetherBR - St. George GAINS Over 70 New Signatures By Deadline

Posted on 10/24/18 at 10:10 am to
Posted by Ed Osteen
Member since Oct 2007
57519 posts
Posted on 10/24/18 at 10:10 am to
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St George is mostly a lower middle class area other than CCL.



Posted by mofungoo
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2012
4583 posts
Posted on 10/24/18 at 10:11 am to
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2. Everyone in the County that st.g is in.

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County

Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
30658 posts
Posted on 10/24/18 at 10:20 am to
This meme seems to incorporate the sentiment toward OneBR/TogetherBR/Better Together

Posted by Mudminnow
Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2004
34150 posts
Posted on 10/24/18 at 10:36 am to
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EBR spends $10,755.00 per student
Zachary $9,780.00 per student

Katy ISD $8,596.00 per student.
Cy_Fair spends $7,967.00 per student.


There are a couple different reasons why the Houston suburb ISDs get rave reviews with having to spend less. You have higher concentration of people thus spending less money on bussing. Houston is also constantly building new schools. The city of Tomball is building 3 totaling 218 M. These new schools are quite large and impressive. They build the large schools with some being 4 stories high. You have a larger concentration of students and spend less per student. Operating costs of electric, water, etc.. are less as a result. Therefore, you can spend more on hiring the best teachers and pay them more money than Louisiana. Anything to help with learning will be purchased and teaching material constantly upgraded.

If you want to add a huge expansion to the school or build a new one. The population growth is much more rapid than Louisiana thus can easily get bonds to build a new school no problem. Thus they are constantly building new.

This post was edited on 10/24/18 at 10:39 am
Posted by sec13rowBBseat28
St George, LA
Member since Aug 2006
15391 posts
Posted on 10/24/18 at 10:52 am to
So whats the next step in this process?
Posted by TigerstuckinMS
Member since Nov 2005
33687 posts
Posted on 10/24/18 at 11:12 am to
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EBR spends $10,755.00 per student
Zachary $9,780.00 per student

Katy ISD $8,596.00 per student.
Cy_Fair spends $7,967.00 per student.

I can tell you that Cy-Fair is building 4-5 new schools every year and constantly upgrading.

Starting teacher salary in Cy-Fair ISD is $53K with BS. EBR $44,500.00 with a BA degree,$48,400.00 with a PHD.

One has to wonder what EBR is spending their money on.


Well, you're talking about school systems, so I imagine they're spending the money on studies.
This post was edited on 10/24/18 at 11:13 am
Posted by AA77
Member since Jan 2016
3797 posts
Posted on 10/24/18 at 11:22 am to
Huge win for Texas.
Posted by Mudminnow
Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2004
34150 posts
Posted on 10/24/18 at 11:28 am to
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Huge win for Texas.


It will be if the folks keep protesting Exxon in Baton Rouge. Exxon might just say to hell with it and invest more money in TX instead.
This post was edited on 10/24/18 at 2:00 pm
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
36165 posts
Posted on 10/24/18 at 11:30 am to
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Huge win for Texas.

Out civics leaders went to Texas to see why Austin was do successful.

They came back and told us that we needed to be more like them; however, when you try and mimic Texas and develop ISDs they tell you that it can't happen here.

Posted by Mudminnow
Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2004
34150 posts
Posted on 10/24/18 at 11:35 am to
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They came back and told us that we needed to be more like them; however, when you try and mimic Texas and develop ISDs they tell you that it can't happen here.


If only Baton Rouge would do a study and the findings show it all starts with education. Invest in education, you attract more businesses to the area, better educated people to elect better politicians (maybe just maybe better candidates will run).

Now folks are just getting their education at LSU through TOPS then moving to Houston to work and raise a family. The T in TOPS stands for TX.
Posted by Antonio Moss
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2006
48329 posts
Posted on 10/24/18 at 11:49 am to
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They build the large schools with some being 4 stories high. You have a larger concentration of students and spend less per student. Operating costs of electric, water, etc.. are less as a result. Therefore, you can spend more on hiring the best teachers and pay them more money than Louisiana. Anything to help with learning will be purchased and teaching material constantly upgraded.


Yes.

If St. George and the ISD become a reality, there is no need to have more than one high school and two middle schools. They shouldn't even think of building a second HS until the HS student population starts to breach 5,000-6,000
Posted by Mudminnow
Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2004
34150 posts
Posted on 10/24/18 at 12:12 pm to
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If St. George and the ISD become a reality, there is no need to have more than one high school and two middle schools. They shouldn't even think of building a second HS until the HS student population starts to breach 5,000-6,000


I haven't heard of anyone from St. George movement checking things out in Houston but there have been several groups from Baton Rouge checking out the ISDs. I did hear they were very impressed the Berry Center which is a few miles down the road from me.

BERRY CENTER
Posted by Mudminnow
Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2004
34150 posts
Posted on 10/24/18 at 12:44 pm to
Here is more info regardlng the Bridgeland highschool in Cypress, TX I mentioned earlier. Its in the Cy-Fair school district that has been mentioned on here a lot.

Bridgeland Highschool 140.8 Million

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The $140.8 million campus is the 12th high school in the district. Cy-Fair ISD is keeping up with the area's growth by building new schools. CFISD is the third largest school district in the state of Texas and the 23rd largest in America. Since 2000, the Cy-Fair area has seen 273,000 new residents. The number of new residents reflects more residential growth than 21 states around the nation.


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The 573,460-square-foot campus will serve approximately 3,300 students and feature a new floor plan, four-story academic wing, collaboration spaces, community building for fine arts and indoor athletics, dining facility, and central utility plant building. School colors are navy blue and orange.

"We want to make sure students and staff are safe and of course want to come to school every day," Smith said. "Students want to come to school when they feel like we are adding value to them, they are a part of the school, what they are learning will benefit them in the future, and they are cared about. We want create an environment that kids want to come to school."


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CFISD now has 91 campuses and 42 new schools have been built since 2000
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Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
36165 posts
Posted on 10/24/18 at 12:49 pm to
Why is the area booming?
La. folks would tell you that the property taxes are too high!!!

Seriously, we should adopt the Texas tax code.
Posted by c on z
Zamunda
Member since Mar 2009
127452 posts
Posted on 10/24/18 at 12:51 pm to
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however, when you try and mimic Texas and develop ISDs they tell you that it can't happen here.

Texas did not form ISDs because of prior failing school systems. It was a method of controlling populations.
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
25395 posts
Posted on 10/24/18 at 12:55 pm to
Collierville and Germantown in Tennessee outside Memphis separated from the Shelby County School District in 2013 to set up their own individual municipal districts.

Both towns were already incorporated when this occurred.

My property values in Collierville went up a lot once the district was established. They've actually upgraded their high school since then with an entirely new campus.

LINK

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Printed on the maroon walls of the entrance to the new, 450,000 square-foot, multi-million dollar Collierville High School are its core values: scholarship, integrity and service.

The school's seal is emblazoned on the floor, with a tradition proposed that no one step on the inscription of "truth" and "honor."

"I'm looking forward to the community seeing it, opening it up to the community," Superintendent John Aitken said Saturday inside the new school ahead of a weekend ribbon-cutting ceremony. "Really watching the kids go 'wow' when they see this. My hope — we'll be preaching this to them — is they appreciate the commitment the town and their parents have made, paying extra taxes for the construction of this facility. It was a leap of faith for the town."


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Features of the school include a 1,000-seat auditorium, 107 regular classrooms, eight science labs, four music classrooms, 18 vocational classrooms, four computer labs, a STEM lab, an auto mechanics shop, a commercial kitchen classroom, a welding studio and space for advance manufacturing and agricultural education.

Sports facilities include a soccer field and fieldhouse, a 3,000-seat varsity gymnasium, a 750-seat auxiliary gymnasium, a 150-seat auxiliary gymnasium, a 5,000-seat baseball stadium along with a baseball field and fieldhouse, a softball field and fieldhouse and a lacrosse field. There is also an outdoor track and a marching band field.


They are actually drawing students from some of the private schools in the area now.

Those towns control their own destiny now. If they want a new gold plated school, they can tax themselves for it. If they want to reduce costs, they can. They aren't at the mercy of politicians in a neighboring city anymore.
This post was edited on 10/24/18 at 12:57 pm
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
25395 posts
Posted on 10/24/18 at 12:59 pm to
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St George is mostly a lower middle class area other than CCL.



Average household income is in the mid 70s (or at least it was a few years ago). It's firmly middle class for Louisiana.
Posted by Mudminnow
Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2004
34150 posts
Posted on 10/24/18 at 1:01 pm to
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Why is the area booming?
La. folks would tell you that the property taxes are too high!!!

Seriously, we should adopt the Texas tax code.


Jobs! Better quality of life! More bang for your buck!

10% of all people born in Louisiana move to Houston. That's a staggering number.

Property taxes are high, but many on here forget there is no state income tax. So it's basically a wash but then you have the added benefit of amazing schools and not forking out 10K a year in private school tuition. For the burbs of Houston this applies: car insurance is 1/2 price compared to Louisiana, electric is cheaper thanks to Energy deregulation. Housing related cost is cheaper, etc..
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
67003 posts
Posted on 10/24/18 at 1:14 pm to
not to mention the majority of job markets pay drastically more in Houston than compared to South Louisiana.
In IT, I would take $30k+ pay cut to live back home. My wife, a teacher, would take a $10-15k pay cut. Nope Nope Nope.
This post was edited on 10/24/18 at 1:15 pm
Posted by tigbob
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2009
204 posts
Posted on 10/24/18 at 1:19 pm to
Sent two sons to Catholic schools while in BR and spent somewhere around $100,000 when all said and done. Waited till they where on their own and got the hell out an moved to Houston. We drive around on good roads and can't believe the schools we see in the Katy area! Everybody sends their kids to Public schools and why not! That Bridgeland School posted above is near us and it UNREAL!!

Yes the above post is correct. You pay higher property taxes but it is a wash when all cost are considered. Also not mentioned when you go to the grocery store to buy your $100 plus weekly food for the week NO TAX on unprepared food!

Only sorry I did not get out sooner with my family and raise my family here!
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