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re: Another dismal jobs report for December

Posted on 1/7/22 at 11:36 am to
Posted by Zappas Stache
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Posted on 1/7/22 at 11:36 am to
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I mean....sure, if you believe that spin you have a brain about like potato head.


Tell me what the real numbers are ol' wise one
Posted by Bard
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Posted on 1/7/22 at 11:38 am to
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Unemployment at 3.9% and more jobs added in 2021 then since 1939. The Biden boom continues!


Boom? No. It's more like a series of small farts.

The Labor Force Participation Rate hasn't been this low since Feb. 1977. As such, it's still FAR lower than pre-pandemic levels.

While new jobless claims seem to have levelled out, it's at a level higher than pre-pandemic numbers AND this was during the time of year when part-time work should have been abundant.

The drop in Unemployment numbers, therefore, is largely due to people simply no longer looking for work while living off of Continued Claims which is, of course, still a little higher than pre-pandemic numbers and/or else simply not making new claims.
This post was edited on 1/7/22 at 11:39 am
Posted by Centinel
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Posted on 1/7/22 at 11:39 am to
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Unemployment at 3.9% and more jobs added in 2021 then since 1939. The Biden boom continues!



no.

Posted by Abstract Queso Dip
Member since Mar 2021
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Posted on 1/7/22 at 11:40 am to
Who needs jobs when you can be crypto millionaire.
Posted by Abstract Queso Dip
Member since Mar 2021
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Posted on 1/7/22 at 11:43 am to
Yeah it is. Sorry you don't know what the unemployment rate is when the media talks about. There are actually 6 different unemployment rates the BLS uses
Posted by LegendInMyMind
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Posted on 1/7/22 at 11:44 am to
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Tell me what the real numbers are ol' wise one

Nah, you've got it figured out there, Zapps. Carry on.
Posted by Nguyener
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Posted on 1/7/22 at 11:44 am to
Everyone that wants a job has one and there is not a single business I know that has enough people to work.

It’s time to end our welfare state
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 1/7/22 at 11:46 am to
Honestly I have no patience for anyone who defends this administration after the Afghanistan shite show. Everyone who continues to defend this administration can go frick themselves at this point. I can’t wait for the Ukraine and Taiwan shite storm that is likely to happen this year.
Posted by MardiGrasCajun
Dirty Coast, MS
Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 1/7/22 at 11:52 am to
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The Biden boom continues!


Oh, he's bombing for sure.
Posted by keakar
Member since Jan 2017
30152 posts
Posted on 1/7/22 at 12:03 pm to
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Another dismal jobs report for December


only 3 more years of this

and its only going to get worse


thanks brandon


Posted by Crowknowsbest
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Posted on 1/7/22 at 12:17 pm to
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Job participation rate is 61%

That is horrid
Posted by Bard
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Posted on 1/7/22 at 12:23 pm to
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Yeah it is. Sorry you don't know what the unemployment rate is when the media talks about. There are actually 6 different unemployment rates the BLS uses


He's referring to the "boom".

Continued Claims, Labor Force Participation Rate, SNAP enrollment, etc... adding those in provides a far greater context to tell the full picture than just looking at U3 (which is the most commonly used one, which denotes only those actively looking for jobs).

This post was edited on 1/7/22 at 12:24 pm
Posted by deltaland
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Posted on 1/7/22 at 12:31 pm to
Notice under trump the numbers always exceeded expectations but under Biden they always under perform
Posted by Bard
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Posted on 1/7/22 at 12:35 pm to
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Everyone that wants a job has one and there is not a single business I know that has enough people to work.

It’s time to end our welfare state


This is why UBI cannot create a successful economy.
Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
16340 posts
Posted on 1/7/22 at 12:39 pm to
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How do you add 50% less jobs than anticipated but still have unemployment drop by 0.2%?

Maybe unemployment is a poor indicator.
Posted by fallguy_1978
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Posted on 1/7/22 at 12:41 pm to
The "Biden Boom"

Biden couldn't tell you what he ate for breakfast.
Posted by Abstract Queso Dip
Member since Mar 2021
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Posted on 1/7/22 at 12:46 pm to
It can be a good indicator of the direction of the economy but doesn't give a full picture. It is only new claims... So labor force participation should be factored in. The U-6 number is a current indicator it takes into account the unemployed rather than just new claims, under employed and discouraged workers. It is a better snapshot of the new versus the U-3 which tends to project where we are headed during normal economic times.
Posted by Abstract Queso Dip
Member since Mar 2021
5878 posts
Posted on 1/7/22 at 12:54 pm to
The u-6 number is 7.2 versus 11.6 of December 2020.

Just because your friends can't find workers means that he has a business in a shoddy labor market. Isn't paying enough, or has had rapid growth and can't keep up. The entire labor market has changed drastically. I have several friends that started their own businesses during the pandemic. Several that are full time work from home.

Local anecdotal evidence doesn't represent the United States as a whole. Louisiana and Mississippi are shitholes and people are leaving droves just like high tax states Cali, NY, and IL
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 1/7/22 at 12:58 pm to
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Local anecdotal evidence doesn't represent the United States as a whole.


reports across the country are similar.

Posted by danilo
Member since Nov 2008
24674 posts
Posted on 1/7/22 at 1:01 pm to
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Biden Boom

Out of control Government spending and increases to welfare? Never going to stop with this guy in office
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