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re: Another day, another murderous cop let off the hook

Posted on 12/8/17 at 7:59 am to
Posted by Breesus
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Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 12/8/17 at 7:59 am to
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the entire police force and all the union members could be deemed incompetent


The officers in this video are very clearly are grossly incompetent.

All the way from the start.

Aiming the gun with your finger on the trigger at the elevator door.

Switching trigger hands a few times.

Taking the elevator to a situation with guns drawn and pointing out the elevator.

Failing to secure the hallway.

Screaming from down the hallway at a closed out of view hotel door in a hotel hallway.

Having a suspect immobile and on the ground and not cuffing him

Telling a drunk and complying suspect to lock his ankles together put his hands straight in the air and wobble towards you without falling or bracing himself or he'll be shot.

After that shooting they just ran past him. No further orders to the room. No further yelling at anyone in the room. No instructions to anyone in the hallway or the room.

Then they failed to open the door 3 times.

That entire video is evidence of gross police misconduct and incompetent training.
This post was edited on 12/8/17 at 8:02 am
Posted by lsuhunt555
Teakwood Village Breh
Member since Nov 2008
39002 posts
Posted on 12/8/17 at 8:01 am to
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...until it deescalates, people should lay flat, don't move a twitch, hands on head...


Well, watch the video. You'll change your mind.

Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

Exactly. The cases of Sterling and Brown were cases of cultural inability to comply with police. This guy was making every effort to comply to the point where he was in tears. If you can watch that video and not say that this guy was murdered im not sure what to tell you. And I am the kind of person who gives police the benefit of the doubt in these cases, this was fricking murder.
Posted by lsuhunt555
Teakwood Village Breh
Member since Nov 2008
39002 posts
Posted on 12/8/17 at 8:04 am to
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That entire video is evidence of gross police misconduct and incompetent training.


Absolutely, which is why the fricking union president shouldnt be allowed to testify. He isn't going to indict his union members and their department. The fact that people don't think in a situation like this, that guy is willing to perjure is ridiculous.
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
53509 posts
Posted on 12/8/17 at 8:06 am to
Just watched the video.

That was like some sick, twisted version of Simon Says.

Put your palms out on the floor, put your hands on your head, cross your legs, pull yourself into the kneeling positions while keeping your legs crossed and hands on your head, put your hands in the air, crawl towards me while in this kneeling position with legs crossed and hands in the air.

If you mess up, you will be shot.

Wtf kind of crap is that?
Posted by Mie2cents
the round part of earth
Member since Dec 2012
3462 posts
Posted on 12/8/17 at 8:08 am to
At 3:46 the kid was reaching behind his back. Pause it if you don't believe that. End of story. Why don't these fools who keep getting shot LISTEN TO THE OFFICER! Just dumb, uneducated people who don't respect authority.
Posted by Packer
IE, California
Member since May 2017
8699 posts
Posted on 12/8/17 at 8:10 am to
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Mesa, AZ


Not a big surprise. Hasn't the DOJ investigated the Maricopa County police dept twice?
Posted by Willie Stroker
Member since Sep 2008
16569 posts
Posted on 12/8/17 at 8:11 am to
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At 3:46 the kid was reaching behind his back. Pause it if you don't believe that. End of story. Why don't these fools who keep getting shot LISTEN TO THE OFFICER! Just dumb, uneducated people who don't respect authority.

That’s not how it works. Cops are only protected if it is a lawful command.
Posted by Breesus
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Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 12/8/17 at 8:11 am to
It blows my mind that some of you will defend these Officers
Posted by SCLibertarian
Conway, South Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
42014 posts
Posted on 12/8/17 at 8:15 am to
Sickening. How those jurors sleep at night is beyond me. If I were the victim's family, you better believe that some of the money from the civil suit would go straight into the hands of an old Vegas mobster for certain extracurricular activities.
Posted by mmonro3
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2013
4227 posts
Posted on 12/8/17 at 8:17 am to
Years of brainwashing will do that
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
53509 posts
Posted on 12/8/17 at 8:19 am to
Another thing that gets me....shooting an AR-15 in a hotel hallway, surrounded by hotel rooms and innocent bystanders doesn't seem very wise.
Posted by hogminer
Bella Vista, AR.
Member since Apr 2010
10367 posts
Posted on 12/8/17 at 8:19 am to
I am on the cops side the majority of the time. This was hard to watch and that officer should be in jail.
Posted by lsuguy13
RIP MATT
Member since Mar 2004
9509 posts
Posted on 12/8/17 at 8:20 am to
That was very hard to watch.

So did he have drugs in the room, gun anything?

Regardless that was murder and he should be put away for that.
Posted by Mr. Hangover
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2003
34925 posts
Posted on 12/8/17 at 8:21 am to
That’s a pretty stupid, racebaiting title considering a cop was just locked up this week




edit- just watched the video... that was uncomfortable

Cop is a POS


This post was edited on 12/8/17 at 8:47 am
Posted by Willie Stroker
Member since Sep 2008
16569 posts
Posted on 12/8/17 at 8:21 am to
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That entire video is evidence of gross police misconduct and incompetent training.

The cop was clearly trained to do what he did in my opinion. His commands were deliberate and precise, despite the illogic in the decision to shoot.

Without knowing any of the additional evidence and testimony, the only conclusion I can come up with is the officer was not convicted because he did what he was trained to do - that can remove criminal liability.

If there was testimony and other evidence that he was trained to shoot under those circumstances, that should serve up a very nice civil settlement, massive terminations/reassignments and a significant overhaul in the agency’s training curriculum. The family is going to get paid heavily in my opinion. The family won’t even need the best lawyer. The cheapest should do just fine.
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
74175 posts
Posted on 12/8/17 at 8:21 am to
That was murder and frick any of you bootlickers who say otherwise. Disagree? I hope this happens to someone you love.
fricker was down with hands on the ground and rather than subdue him they played a fricking game with his life. I mean frick This cop.
This post was edited on 12/8/17 at 8:25 am
Posted by Willie Stroker
Member since Sep 2008
16569 posts
Posted on 12/8/17 at 8:22 am to
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It blows my mind that some of you will defend these Officers

The only logic in defending the cop is if the agency training is the reason the cop shot.
Posted by TH03
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Member since Dec 2008
172004 posts
Posted on 12/8/17 at 8:24 am to
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White guy. Cop will go to trial. There will be no protests. No condos will be burned. The community will accept the judgment of the court.


quote:

Brailsford, who is no longer on the force, was on trial for 2nd degree murder and reckless manslaughter -- until the jury returned not guilty verdicts Thursday on both counts.


Did you even read before making your hilarious comment?
This post was edited on 12/8/17 at 8:24 am
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
74175 posts
Posted on 12/8/17 at 8:24 am to
The commands were confusing as hell. The guy was on the ground with a fricking ar15 on him. Why not approach him and cuff him?

The commands were confusing.
Posted by OLDBEACHCOMBER
Member since Jan 2004
7605 posts
Posted on 12/8/17 at 8:25 am to
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cubsfan5150


I'd call you a dickhead but that would be an insult to all the outer dickheads in the world.
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