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re: Annual 9/11 Thread - 18 Years Later

Posted on 9/11/19 at 1:44 pm to
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 9/11/19 at 1:44 pm to
I did the same after I got back from NYC in February. For a week or two, it was all I read about.
Posted by MrLarson
Member since Oct 2014
34984 posts
Posted on 9/11/19 at 1:46 pm to
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One guy I worked with told me as they left the building they went to the court yard between the two buildings As they looked up they just saw people jumping He will never forget that image


I think people wanting to watch those videos today don't understand that a lot of us watched it live and what an emotional day it was already. Then you see large objects falling and the news tells you that it's people jumping. I'm not downing people that want to watch it that didn't see it live because I'm sure it's like watching any movie or crazy YouTube video but I had to realize that day that my fellow countrymen were either going to burn alive or jump and they chose to jump. I don't care if I ever see it again.
Posted by go_tigres
Member since Sep 2013
5161 posts
Posted on 9/11/19 at 1:47 pm to
Sincerely, thank you for this and for putting forth the effort it took to share this with us.
Posted by tiger91
In my own little world
Member since Nov 2005
36723 posts
Posted on 9/11/19 at 1:49 pm to
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IonaTiger


Good God. I'm wondering how your sister is -- at one of the points in my running I had included her (with your permission) in running intentions/prayers. Want to say her name started with Sh... and I only remember as I'm 99% sure it's my mothers name.

Posted by IonaTiger
The Commonwealth Of Virginia
Member since Mar 2006
33053 posts
Posted on 9/11/19 at 1:53 pm to
Hi, 91. The sister you run for is Susan. Not because of 9/11, she suffers MS. And I thank you!
Posted by VetteGuy
Member since Feb 2008
28198 posts
Posted on 9/11/19 at 2:00 pm to
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I don't care if I ever see it again.



Agree.

I still wince/shudder from the sound. It was a terrible day.
Posted by Chicken
Jackassistan
Member since Aug 2003
22027 posts
Posted on 9/11/19 at 2:40 pm to
man, watching the video when second plane hits chokes me up...so awful...

Posted by bdevill
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Mar 2008
11807 posts
Posted on 9/11/19 at 3:23 pm to
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Anyone else here know anyone in the towers or in the area?


My friend, John Works. He didn't make it out. He was in the South Tower. Nothing was recovered. I just hope it was swift and painless. He left behind an amazing wife and his daughter is absolutely beautiful, today.
This post was edited on 9/11/19 at 3:38 pm
Posted by Tridentds
Sugar Land
Member since Aug 2011
20408 posts
Posted on 9/11/19 at 3:27 pm to
Wife and I were living in Aberdeen Scotland at the time. We had left town and were about 15 minutes outside of Aberdeen heading north to Royal Dornoch and I was going to play golf for a few days. I had a conference call with our Houston office and was listening and talking through the car hands free.

When I joined the call the meeting was just getting started and the president of our company asked me if I had heard any news about a plane hitting a building in NY. Not too long after the meeting got going I heard someone come into the room and say something and then they told me another plane had hit the world trade center and we seemed to be under some kind of attack. I turned the car around and we went back to our house. I flipped the TV onto CNN and saw both buildings on fire. By then they were replaying videos of the 2nd plane hitting the tower. After about 15-20 minutes the first building collapsed.

My normal flights to/from the U.S. out of Edinburgh had a stop in Newark. I came back to the U.S. about 2 weeks or so after 9-11 and when we came in to land the NY skyline was on the left side of the plane. Nobody on the plane was saying a word but everyone in the plane was looking out through the left side. The towers which had been there all my life were gone. There was a trail of smoke still coming up in NY from the building. Surreal to say the least.


This post was edited on 9/11/19 at 3:30 pm
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
73856 posts
Posted on 9/11/19 at 3:29 pm to
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watching the video when second plane hits chokes me up...so awful...


looking at a lot of this is dredging up some stuff that I'd sort of packed away
Posted by Dam Guide
Member since Sep 2005
15511 posts
Posted on 9/11/19 at 3:38 pm to
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I don't remember there being pictures of the ground impacts though.


It was 2001, iPhone didn't release til 2007. Camera phones weren't like what they are today, some people credit the first real one as coming on the market in late 2000. People had a little more sense about what they took pictures and video of back then because you were using a camera or camcorder. So not as many images of stuff like that exist or were taken because they started blocking off the area and people coming out of the towers/subway didn't all have smartphones in their pockets.
This post was edited on 9/11/19 at 3:42 pm
Posted by Junky
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2005
8382 posts
Posted on 9/11/19 at 4:25 pm to
In a way, I'm glad they didn't exist back then. Could you imagine the gut wrenching stories of live tweeting from above the impact zones? The calls to love ones?

Smart phones have changed the world for the good. But man, seeing the unedited would have been tough.
Posted by whoisnickdoobs
Lafayette
Member since Apr 2012
9352 posts
Posted on 9/11/19 at 4:26 pm to
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That was before politics got ruined by the media & social media. Can you imagine if 911 happened again and Trump went to throw the first pitch in New York. Stadium would be filled with boos.


No it wouldn’t


You do realize the majority of that crowd would be people who voted Alexandria Ocasio Cortez into congress. They hate Trump with a passion. No way he doesn't get booed. The politcal climate is wayyyyyyyy different now than what it was 18 years ago.
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
48606 posts
Posted on 9/11/19 at 4:27 pm to
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man, watching the video when second plane hits chokes me up...so awful...

I remember watching it live on TV with my dad. I was looking for a job and had an interview that morning that got canceled.
Posted by I Bleed Garnet
Cullman, AL
Member since Jul 2011
54846 posts
Posted on 9/11/19 at 4:28 pm to
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You do realize the majority of that crowd would be people who voted Alexandria Ocasio Cortez into congress. They hate Trump with a passion. No way he doesn't get booed. The politcal climate is wayyyyyyyy different now than what it was 18 years ago.

The majority of that crowd at a World Series game would not be the people who voted AOC into congress

Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
171037 posts
Posted on 9/11/19 at 4:29 pm to
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You do realize the majority of that crowd would be people who voted Alexandria Ocasio Cortez into congress. They hate Trump with a passion. No way he doesn't get booed. The politcal climate is wayyyyyyyy different now than what it was 18 years ago.


Everything has to be political with you losers.
Posted by Coach Buzzcut
Member since Feb 2016
1361 posts
Posted on 9/11/19 at 4:42 pm to
Gavrilo Princip killing Franz Ferdinand is basically the 21st century 9/11
Posted by MWP
Kingwood, TX via Monroe, LA
Member since Jul 2013
10445 posts
Posted on 9/11/19 at 4:52 pm to
I know a guy that was on a conference call with some customers in one of the towers right when the first plane hit. All he heard was a scream and the phone went dead. None of the people on that call in NY survived.
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
98200 posts
Posted on 9/11/19 at 5:25 pm to
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Salty and Roselle were two guide dogs who were with their owners in the World Trade Center during the September 11 attacks in New York City. They each successfully guided their owners out of the burning towers before they collapsed, feats which were later recognized when they were awarded the Dickin Medal by the British charity the People's Dispensary for Sick Animals.[1] Roselle went on to be posthumously named American Hero Dog of the Year 2011 by American Humane, and has a book written about her.
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Salty
SaltySpecies Dog
Breed Labrador Retriever
Sex Male
Born December 12, 1996
Died March 28, 2008 (aged 11)
Nation from United States
Occupation Guide dog
Years active 1998–2008
Owner Omar Rivera
Appearance Yellow coat
Awards Dickin Medal
Partners in Courage award

Salty (December 12, 1996 – March 28, 2008) was trained as a guide dog in early 1998 by Guiding Eyes for the Blind in Yorktown Heights, New York.[2] Part of his training included taking trips on the New York City Subway and getting used to traffic in the Bronx. Omar Rivera was introduced to Salty by Salty's instructor, Caroline McCabe-Sandler.[2]

When the attacks occurred on September 11, 2001, Salty and his owner, Omar Rivera, found themselves on the 71st floor.[3] Rivera was working at the headquarters of the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey, in Tower 1 of the World Trade Center. After refusing to leave Rivera's side, Salty and Rivera's supervisor, Donna Enright, led him to safety.[4] About halfway down, a co-worker, trying to help, tried to take Salty's lead but the dog refused to leave Omar.[2]

Roselle
Roselle Species Dog
Breed Labrador Retriever
Sex Female
Born March 12, 1998
San Rafael, California
Died 8:52 pm, June 26, 2011 (aged 13)
Nation from United States
Occupation Guide dog
Years active 1999–2007
Owner Michael Hingson
Appearance Yellow coat
Awards Dickin Medal
American Hero Dog of the Year 2011
https://www.rosellefoundation.org

Roselle (March 12, 1998 – June 26, 2011) was born in San Rafael, California, on March 12, 1998, at the Guide Dogs for the Blind. She was moved to Santa Barbara, California, to be raised by Kay and Ted Stern. After this she was returned to Guide Dogs for the Blind so that she could be trained as a guide dog.[5] Roselle and her owner, Michael Hingson, first met on November 22, 1999. She was Hingson's fifth guide dog.[6]

Roselle was asleep under her owner's desk on the 78th floor in Tower 1 of the World Trade Center when the attack commenced. She was awakened by the plane impacting some fifteen floors above them.[4] Roselle calmly helped Hingson to stairwell B, despite the smoke, confusion and noise surrounding her.[7]

She led her owner and 30 other people down 1,463 steps out of the tower. After descending over half the distance, they passed the firemen who were heading up, who Roselle stopped to greet.[8] The descent took just over an hour. Just after they exited the tower, Tower 2 collapsed, sending debris flying.[9] Hingson later said, "While everyone ran in panic, Roselle remained totally focused on her job, while debris fell around us, and even hit us, Roselle stayed calm."[10] Once clear, Roselle led her owner to the safety of a subway station,[10] where they helped a woman who had been blinded by falling debris. Once they arrived home, Roselle immediately began playing with her retired guide dog predecessor, Linnie, as if nothing important had happened.[11]

After the attacks, Hingson changed careers from a computer salesman to working for the Guide Dogs for the Blind as Public Affairs Director. Hingson and Roselle appeared on numerous television shows including Larry King Live, the CBS Morning Show and Regis and Kelly. They also appeared on a float during the 2002 Rose Parade in Pasadena, CA.[6]

In 2004, Roselle was diagnosed with immune-mediated thrombocytopenia, but medications were able to control the condition. In March 2007 she retired from guiding after it was discovered that the medication was beginning to damage her kidneys. She continued to live with Hingson, who was assigned a new guide dog, Africa.[5] On June 24, 2011, Hingson suspected that something was wrong with Roselle and took her to her local vet, who diagnosed her with a stomach ulcer. Roselle died two days later on June 26, at 8:52 pm. In her memory, Hingson wrote a book of their 9/11 experience entitled Thunder Dog: The True Story of a Blind Man, His Guide Dog, and the Triumph of Trust at Ground Zero and set up Roselle's Dream Foundation a 501c3 charitable foundation to raise money to help vision-impaired people engage more fully in everyday life.[6]


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Posted by Loungefly85
Lafayette
Member since Jul 2016
7930 posts
Posted on 9/11/19 at 6:34 pm to
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Anyone else here know anyone in the towers or in the area


My aunt’s office at the time was a few blocks away. She heard the first plane but didn’t see it because her office was facing away. Everybody went out on the street to watch and got an up close view of the second plane. At that moment they knew shite was going down so everybody tried to go home but the only option was to walk. She was walking home and turned around when she heard the first tower fall. She couldn’t see the actual building but still says that to see the smoke and ash plume from the collapse on tv doesn’t even come close to doing the magnitude justice from seeing it at street level and in person. She couldn’t bring herself to turn around and watch the second building collapse. It took her hours to walk home to mid-city/Central Park area.
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