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re: Annual 9/11 Thread - 18 Years Later

Posted on 9/11/19 at 12:36 pm to
Posted by bdevill
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 9/11/19 at 12:36 pm to
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The stories they have are really chilling


A friend's subway was pulling into her stop, which was the World Trade Center, right as the second plane was hitting the south tower. They held them in the subway station til debris stopped falling. When they were let out, she looked around and said all the glass was busted in the first floor of the esplanade and broken glass, metal and burning body parts on the ground. She looked up and there was a twenty floor hole in the North tower with fire shooting out of it.
This post was edited on 9/11/19 at 12:38 pm
Posted by I Bleed Garnet
Cullman, AL
Member since Jul 2011
54846 posts
Posted on 9/11/19 at 12:37 pm to
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A friend's subway was pulling into her stop, which was the World Trade Center, right as the second plane was hitting the south tower. They held them in the subway station til debris stopped falling. When they were let out, she looked around and said there were burning body parts on the ground. She looked up and there was a twenty floor hole in the North tower with fire shooting out of it.


I’ve heard very similar stories

Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
51241 posts
Posted on 9/11/19 at 12:40 pm to
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The stories they have are really chilling

Some pretty graphic


I would never want to see them, but it is crazy how there have never been any photos of jumper impacts that have made it out into the public (that I'm aware). I get the feeling that the WTC site after the plane impacts and before the collapse was more graphic than we think.
Posted by bdevill
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Mar 2008
11804 posts
Posted on 9/11/19 at 12:41 pm to
I was watching on the news when the explosions were going off on the lower floors and the television reporter said you could smell "the bombs". She said it smelled like downtown Beirut. That part still puzzles me. If it was gas lines exploding, or electrical circuit panels, or was it actual bombs that were placed intentionally.. idk


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I get the feeling that the WTC site after the plane impacts and before the collapse was more graphic than we think.


Whatever was going on inside the impact zones had to be pretty horrible for them to think that jumping was their only option.


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Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
51241 posts
Posted on 9/11/19 at 12:48 pm to
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television reporter


Is there anything less trustworthy than a television reporter live on tv during a disaster?
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
64392 posts
Posted on 9/11/19 at 12:51 pm to
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Starting tomorrow a kid that wasn’t even born when this happened can join the military.


There is a kid in my son’s class who was born on 9/11. His mom went into labor before the first plane hit. She didn’t even know anything happened that day until that evening.
Posted by Carville
Sunshine, LA
Member since Jun 2014
5321 posts
Posted on 9/11/19 at 1:00 pm to
Posted by bdevill
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Mar 2008
11804 posts
Posted on 9/11/19 at 1:04 pm to
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Is there anything less trustworthy than a television reporter live on tv during a disaster?


Regardless of what your opinion is of news media or their reporting, there were explosions happening on lower levels of the WTC. There's no disputing that. What the origin is, is the source of speculation, not the fact that they occurred.

Posted by Chucktown_Badger
The banks of the Ashley River
Member since May 2013
31055 posts
Posted on 9/11/19 at 1:06 pm to
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Some pretty graphic


I think one of the documentaries talks about how they had to caution the people evacuating to watch out as they left the building so they didn't get hit by jumpers. That's such a horrifying concept.
Posted by HamzooReb
Utah
Member since Mar 2013
11996 posts
Posted on 9/11/19 at 1:07 pm to
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there have never been any photos of jumper impacts that have made it out into the public


They exist. I don't recommend looking it up.
Posted by Chucktown_Badger
The banks of the Ashley River
Member since May 2013
31055 posts
Posted on 9/11/19 at 1:09 pm to
quote:

there were explosions happening on lower levels of the WTC


Link? Or if this is some conspiracy theory, please GTFO.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
118922 posts
Posted on 9/11/19 at 1:10 pm to
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Is there anything less trustworthy than a television reporter live on tv during a disaster?


Yes, a television report not during a disaster.
Posted by IonaTiger
The Commonwealth Of Virginia
Member since Mar 2006
33053 posts
Posted on 9/11/19 at 1:23 pm to
I posted this on 9/11/08. I still feel the same:

re: In rememberance...Posted on 9/11/08 at 5:34 pm to dukke v

September 10, 2001 was my 50th birthday. I spent the evening with friends and we were discussing the fact that we were thrilled that our kids did not have to grow up as we did, worrying about the USSR and a possible nuclear threat; remembering the Cuban Missile Crisis; watching people being shot trying to escape from East Germany by trying to scale the Berlin Wall, etc. The Cold War was over and we had won it. Life seemed good.

On the morning of September 11, 2001 I received a telephone call from my secretary at about 7:00 am. She said that she thought that she screwed up and that I had two mediations in the District of Columbia Superior Court that morning. I asked her if this was a bad “day after 50th birthday” joke. I said that I was pretty sure that the mediations were on the 12th. She said that she would check and call me back. I hopped into the shower and when I got out she called and told me that I was correct and that they were on the 12th. I told her that I was going to wait out rush hour traffic and that I’d leave for the office around 10:00 am.

I was at the computer answering some emails (this was before I ever knew about Tiger Droppings). While at the computer, I heard on the Fox Morning Show that a plane had just hit one of the World Trade Center towers in NYC. The New Yorker in me did not even look up at the TV, I just thought, “Who is the idiot in the small plane that got too close to the WTC?” Shortly thereafter, I heard that the second tower was hit. At that point, like everyone else, I sat in horror watching the TV. Certainly, this was no accident.

About a half hour later, I heard a “BOOM”. At the time I lived a couple of miles or so from The Pentagon, as the crow flies. I went outside and saw the black smoke billowing from the direction of The Pentagon. It was so strange because it was a beautiful day. All I could hear were sirens (I had not heard so many sirens in D.C. since the Air Florida crash) and the sound of fighter jets overheard.

I tried to make some calls on my cell phone, but could not. I tried on a land line and it was still no use. I drove over to a 7-11 and used a pay phone to call some folks. I heard from my Mom that one of my sisters was supposed to have a matter in the Supreme Court in Manhattan that morning and was going to visit a friend at the WTC before her court appearance. We were both very frightened for my sister and wondered if she was OK.

I went into the 7-11 after making my calls and the rumors were running rampant. Some people were saying that the White House and Washington Monument had been hit. Some were saying that The Capitol had been blown up. I did not know whether or not any of what was being said was true.

I-395 was closed down and so I could not get into the office. I went over to Army-Navy Country Club to visit some friends. I was told that the American Airlines Flight 77 flew over the Club’s driving range at an altitude of about 250 feet on its way to The Pentagon.

At about 6:00 pm I decided that I needed to go to the office to get the files for the next day’s mediations. As I approached the 14th Street Bridge, I saw The Pentagon live for the first time that day. The smoke was still rising from the building and it was a horrible sight to see. All I could think was, “If this is what it is like here, what must it be like in Manhattan?”

As I crossed the 14th Street Bridge it was eerie not to see air traffic going up and down the Potomac. It was almost as eerie as when I saw the first jet landing at Reagan National after a few weeks of no air traffic.

When I got into D.C., I saw Humvees at each corner with manned .50 caliber machine guns. There were also armed soldiers on the streets.

After getting my files, I drove back to Alexandria and smoke was still rising from The Pentagon.

Prior to 9/11/01, the only building that I ever turned to look at in D.C. was The White House. Since 9/11, the only building that I turn to look at every time I pass it is The Pentagon. It saddens me every time I pass it and see the area that was struck.

Having grown up on Staten Island, I remember the NYC skyline before there was a WTC, and while the Towers were going up. I will never forget the day that they came down. I knew people who were killed in the Towers and the obituaries ran in the Staten Island Advance for months. A complete company of Staten Island Firefighters were killed in the collapse.

I had only been in the WTC once, for a dinner dance at the restaurant, Windows on the World (the top floor of the North Tower). Being afraid of heights, I did not like going to the windows (that went from ceiling to floor) and looking down. I cannot imagine what it took for some of those poor people to bring themselves to jump. I suppose in their minds it was better than burning to death. Nice choice.

Every time I go back to NY to visit family I tear up a bit when I see the Tower-less skyline.

Since that date, I have never prouder to be an American and a native New Yorker. I am saddened by the fact that it seems that a lot of people seem to have forgotten that there are people out there who mean us harm. We should all do anything that we can do to never forget that fact and the events of 9/11/01.

We owe a debt of gratitude that we can never repay to the men and women in our Armed Forces who are out fighting the good fight to keep us safe and to arrange a meeting with the Maker for all those who mean us harm. We also owe a debt to gratitude that we can never repay to those nameless people in our Intelligence Community who have dedicated their lives to thwarting subsequent attacks. It is not be coincidence that there has not been an attack on American shores has since 9/11/01.

9/11/01 -- Never Forget!
Posted by UpToPar
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
22151 posts
Posted on 9/11/19 at 1:26 pm to
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I had nightmares everyday for at least 2 weeks after. I'm still somewhat mad that school basically shut down that day. I understand that the teachers were in basically no mood to teach that day, but that shite scarred the mess out of me at the time.


I understand the sentiment and maybe I would have felt the same way had I been in that situation, but my school did not put it on tv and I didn’t learn what happened until the bus ride home hearing it discussed on the radio. I was in 5th grade at the time. I always resented the fact that I went most of that day not knowing what was going on.
Posted by Jolla
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2018
285 posts
Posted on 9/11/19 at 1:27 pm to
Just finished. Insane, especially when the UA 175 flight makes the hijacking comment.
Posted by I Bleed Garnet
Cullman, AL
Member since Jul 2011
54846 posts
Posted on 9/11/19 at 1:31 pm to
quote:

I would never want to see them, but it is crazy how there have never been any photos of jumper impacts that have made it out into the public (that I'm aware). I get the feeling that the WTC site after the plane impacts and before the collapse was more graphic than we think.

So regarding this
In the actual museum there is a room just for that. It’s behind a wall with a warning sign before it.
Posted by I Bleed Garnet
Cullman, AL
Member since Jul 2011
54846 posts
Posted on 9/11/19 at 1:34 pm to
quote:

I think one of the documentaries talks about how they had to caution the people evacuating to watch out as they left the building so they didn't get hit by jumpers. That's such a horrifying concept.


One guy I worked with told me as they left the building they went to the court yard between the two buildings
As they looked up they just saw people jumping

He will never forget that image
Posted by bdevill
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Mar 2008
11804 posts
Posted on 9/11/19 at 1:41 pm to
quote:

Link? Or if this is some conspiracy theory, please GTFO.


Like I said earlier, there's no disputing the fact that explosions occurred. There is speculation as to the cause of the explosions on the lower levels of the North Tower. Conspiracy theories you're talking about are the ones that say explosives were placed in the towers and detonated as the planes made impact.

I'm not buying into any conspiracy theories, I'm just saying I watched the news as the explosions occurred.


"Burning fuel traveling down the elevator shafts would have disrupted the elevator systems and caused extensive damage to the lobbies. NIST heard first-person testimony that "some elevators slammed right down" to the ground floor. "The doors cracked open on the lobby floor and flames came out and people died"

LINK

quote:

"Many people in New York reported that they had heard explosions just before the buildings collapsed. Film taken of the buildings also showed explosions in the floor below the impacts.


LINK
This post was edited on 9/11/19 at 5:02 pm
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
171035 posts
Posted on 9/11/19 at 1:41 pm to
I don't remember there being pictures of the ground impacts though.
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
164042 posts
Posted on 9/11/19 at 1:43 pm to
I’ve seen some

I’ve seen just about everything there is to see about 9/11. I went on a huge 9/11 kick years back
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