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Anglers miss out on $3.5million payday at Big Rock Blue Marlin Tournament due to....
Posted on 6/18/23 at 12:32 pm
Posted on 6/18/23 at 12:32 pm
....a shark bite.
Sensation DQ'ed at Big Rock Blue Marlin, Sushi declared the winner
From an earlier article:
Personally, I get it. The rules are the rules. BUT....I think that if you hook a 600+ pound fish, fight it for 6 hours, fight through a damn shark attack, and when you finally get it to the scales it STILL weighs over 600 pounds....with a shark bite....you should get the win and a bonus.
Sensation DQ'ed at Big Rock Blue Marlin, Sushi declared the winner
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Sensation’s catch at the Big Rock Blue Marlin has been disqualified and Sushi has been declared the winner of the 65th annual tournament in Morehead City.
The Big Rock on Sunday morning announced that Sensation’s 619.4-pound marlin brought in late Saturday night was not eligible due to mutilation after the Morehead City boat fought the fish for six hours and entered the scales at 11:22 p.m.
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Once the marlin was brought to the scales, Big Rock officials noticed multiple shark bites on the fish.
The 619.4 pounds would have given Sensation, a 52-foot Jarrett Bay, first place as well as the Fabulous Fisherman prize that awards $739,500 to the crew that boats the first marlin of at least 500 pounds. Overall, Sensation would have won about $3.5 Million from the tournament’s $5,835,705 purse.
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It was deemed that the fish was mutilated before it was landed or boated and therefore it was disqualified,” the Big Rock said in a statement. “The Big Rock Blue Marlin Tournament follows IGFA rules regarding mutilated fish as outlined in Rule No. 23 in the Big Rock Official Rules.”
International Game Fish Association rules state that mutilation to the fish, prior to landing or boating the catch, caused by sharks, other fish, mammals, or propellers that remove or penetrate the flesh disqualifies it.
From an earlier article:
quote:
Sensation, a 52-foot Jarrett Bay, hooked up at 2:15 p.m. and boated the marlin at 8:22 p.m., before arriving to the Morehead City scales in front of what Big Rock officials said was the largest crowd in tournament history.
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The weight of Sensation’s marlin was unofficially 619 pounds.
Personally, I get it. The rules are the rules. BUT....I think that if you hook a 600+ pound fish, fight it for 6 hours, fight through a damn shark attack, and when you finally get it to the scales it STILL weighs over 600 pounds....with a shark bite....you should get the win and a bonus.
Posted on 6/18/23 at 12:35 pm to LegendInMyMind
Litigation incoming
Posted on 6/18/23 at 12:35 pm to LegendInMyMind
The real question is....... Why does a shark bite disqualify the fish that was bitten? If anything, it makes the fish weight less than it would if a chunk had not been bitten and eaten by the shark?
Posted on 6/18/23 at 12:37 pm to Yeahright
shark bites potentially disable the fish making it easier to land
Posted on 6/18/23 at 12:38 pm to cgrand
That’s correct, it could have taken these guys longer to land or potentially never land if not bitten by a shark, potentially. You have to protect the field.
Posted on 6/18/23 at 12:39 pm to roguetiger15
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Litigation incoming
I don't see how they could win. The rule is clear.
Posted on 6/18/23 at 12:39 pm to Yeahright
Because the rule isn’t really about prohibiting a shark bite. It’s prohibiting any alteration.
Otherwise they would need protocols in place to validate lack of tampering, and making sure the “shark bite” wasn’t used to hide lead within the fish.
Otherwise they would need protocols in place to validate lack of tampering, and making sure the “shark bite” wasn’t used to hide lead within the fish.
This post was edited on 6/18/23 at 12:40 pm
Posted on 6/18/23 at 12:40 pm to Yeahright
My only thought is maybe the mutilation causes the fish to be weaker or impaired thus making it easier to land?
I.E you could hit it with a prop or a shark bite it and the fish float up in shock or dead and you snatch it out of the water.
I think there should be exceptions if you video the 6 hr fight and prove it was caught legitimately then it shouldn’t be disqualified
I.E you could hit it with a prop or a shark bite it and the fish float up in shock or dead and you snatch it out of the water.
I think there should be exceptions if you video the 6 hr fight and prove it was caught legitimately then it shouldn’t be disqualified
This post was edited on 6/18/23 at 12:42 pm
Posted on 6/18/23 at 12:41 pm to Yeahright
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Why does a shark bite disqualify the fish that was bitten? If anything, it makes the fish weight less than it would if a chunk had not been bitten and eaten by the shark?
Think of the fish as an athlete and the shark as the agent. We have NIL because lawyers and agents can get paid. No way to pay in a partial out of a scholly.
Posted on 6/18/23 at 12:44 pm to deltaland
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I think there should be exceptions if you video the 6 hr fight and prove it was caught legitimately then it shouldn’t be disqualified
That's pretty much my opinion.
The winning fish a few years ago was also mutilated. The difference with that was that the fish couldn't be boated because it was too big, and they tied it up behind or alongside the boat to bring it in. The bite or other mutilation supposedly happened during the trip in, not during the struggle to land it. They must have had video to prove that was the case.
Posted on 6/18/23 at 1:09 pm to LegendInMyMind
It’s a rule everyone knows and isn’t a big deal.
Posted on 6/18/23 at 1:09 pm to roguetiger15
quote:
Litigation incoming
On what grounds
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The Big Rock Blue Marlin Tournament follows IGFA rules regarding mutilated fish as outlined in Rule No. 23 in the Big Rock Official Rules.”
I agree it’s ridiculous but it is listed in the rules of the tournament before it even started. It’s not like they made an arbitrary ruling about it
Posted on 6/18/23 at 1:15 pm to LegendInMyMind
If you fish you understand that's just the nature of it. You just suck it up and keep fishing. I missed a couple of grand in additional winnings once because the other team weighed 0.02 lbs more than we did.
Posted on 6/18/23 at 1:16 pm to lion
Friend,
You are correct. This rule and decision are not controversial to anyone who has ever been associated with blue water fishing tournaments. Uncle lost out on a large payday after a bull bit off the tail of a white marlin during a tournament in North Carolina in the 90s. He often tells the story about it at dinner parties, but I have never heard him complain about it.
Yours,
TulaneLSU
You are correct. This rule and decision are not controversial to anyone who has ever been associated with blue water fishing tournaments. Uncle lost out on a large payday after a bull bit off the tail of a white marlin during a tournament in North Carolina in the 90s. He often tells the story about it at dinner parties, but I have never heard him complain about it.
Yours,
TulaneLSU
Posted on 6/18/23 at 1:23 pm to roguetiger15
quote:
Litigation incoming
They’ll never get the shark to show up to court.
Posted on 6/18/23 at 1:43 pm to lion
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It’s a rule everyone knows and isn’t a big deal.
Someone on the OB that fishes this tournament and others said this has happen before and it took the courts years to settle. It’s a big deal.
This post was edited on 6/18/23 at 1:44 pm
Posted on 6/18/23 at 1:57 pm to roguetiger15
quote:Sure if you sue someone that becomes a big deal, but the IGFA rule has been standard in tournaments forever. The ruling isn’t surprising to the the anglers that caught it or the other participants
Someone on the OB that fishes this tournament and others said this has happen before and it took the courts years to settle. It’s a big deal.
Posted on 6/18/23 at 2:03 pm to roguetiger15
Friend,
There was a time when blue water fishing was a sport of gentlemen who honored rules as rules, as golfers do. For the most part it still is.
The case with the White Marlin Open had nothing to do with fish mutilation and involved less than three million. Every court ruled in favor of the tournament. That case involved tournament officials claiming that the winning boat was fishing outside of tournament hours, which is a more nebulous matter than whether a fish has been mutilated. The fishermen said they were fishing within the tournament hours. It became a giant he said, she said battle. The accused fisherman received nothing and lost I suspect at least a few hundred thousand in attorney fees.
The rules are so clear about mutilation, it would be foolhardy to try to appeal this decision. It would also go against the ideals of gentlemen. Honor is worth much more than a few million dollars.
Yours,
TulaneLSU
There was a time when blue water fishing was a sport of gentlemen who honored rules as rules, as golfers do. For the most part it still is.
The case with the White Marlin Open had nothing to do with fish mutilation and involved less than three million. Every court ruled in favor of the tournament. That case involved tournament officials claiming that the winning boat was fishing outside of tournament hours, which is a more nebulous matter than whether a fish has been mutilated. The fishermen said they were fishing within the tournament hours. It became a giant he said, she said battle. The accused fisherman received nothing and lost I suspect at least a few hundred thousand in attorney fees.
The rules are so clear about mutilation, it would be foolhardy to try to appeal this decision. It would also go against the ideals of gentlemen. Honor is worth much more than a few million dollars.
Yours,
TulaneLSU
This post was edited on 6/18/23 at 2:13 pm
Posted on 6/18/23 at 2:40 pm to LegendInMyMind
quote:
Sensation, a 52-foot Jarrett Bay
This old man would call them pussies.
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