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re: An icon of evil was born in Austria on this day 133 years ago...
Posted on 4/23/22 at 3:49 pm to RollTide1987
Posted on 4/23/22 at 3:49 pm to RollTide1987
Prescott Bush was convicted of trading with the Nazis
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Posted on 4/23/22 at 4:10 pm to FightinTigersDammit
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Prescott Bush was convicted of trading with the Nazis
No he wasn't.
He had business dealings with a Nazi industrialist named Fritz Thyssen, who himself became disillusioned by Nazism and was arrested and imprisoned by the Nazis in 1938. That was the extent of his relationship with Nazi Germany.
Posted on 4/23/22 at 5:11 pm to RollTide1987
You're just an uninformed, ignorant fool like those folks that think the Pentagon, the most important and critical military building in the entire world, was hit by a commercial jet. There are ZERO clear videos of a commercial airline hitting it.
Posted on 4/23/22 at 7:15 pm to RollTide1987
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He [Prescott Bush] had business dealings with a Nazi industrialist named Fritz Thyssen, who himself became disillusioned by Nazism and was arrested and imprisoned by the Nazis in 1938. That was the extent of his relationship with Nazi Germany.
Tide, I like your threads and respect what you do. But it'd be boring if we were always to agree.
Here are just two sources that tread very lightly and lay out brief backgrounds of a Wall St coup and the seriousness of Prescott's "business" involvement with Fritz and Nazi Germany -- with a bit more detail.
Legacy and Business Plot
Wall St's 1934 Failed Coup
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Money was funneled thru...Union Banking Corporation [names you will recognize) ...to the League (and to Hitler, but that’s another story). The plotters bragged about Bush's Hitler connections [etc etc...]
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The plutocrats wanted General [Smedley] Butler to lead the coup, thinking that, like the Bolsheviks, taking one major city (DC as Petrograd) would lead to the fall of the government. They promised to put up $3 million as starters...Butler went along with the plot until he could learn the identities of all the schemers. Not a one of them was ever called to testify or was charged with Treason. Virtually all of them were founding members of the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR).
The names are all the usual, expected suspects.
Then as today, the day started and ended with the same impunity and immunity given then. Nothing has changed.
"History" and the truth: As easily sanitized and erased then as now. Except what happened then is actually recorded for posterity.
This post was edited on 4/23/22 at 7:18 pm
Posted on 4/23/22 at 9:31 pm to Liberator
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Legacy and Business Plot
This so-called Business Plot likely never happened. The article claims that Butler never offered any kind of evidence that there was a fascist putsch being planned against the government other than his word and virtually zero evidence implicating Prescott Bush.
Posted on 4/23/22 at 9:34 pm to NewOrleansBlend
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But unlike Genghis Khan, Hitler lost and would be nothing but a footnote in history if not for his character
That’s a rather ridiculous take. He (well, Germany) won a LOT before they lost, spectacularly. And it took a hell of a lot of brave men to do it as well.
Posted on 4/23/22 at 9:53 pm to fr33manator
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And it took a hell of a lot of brave men to do it as well.
I didn't realize that if you were forced to fight to the point where you either fought or died was bravery.
Posted on 4/23/22 at 10:02 pm to OweO
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I didn't realize that if you were forced to fight to the point where you either fought or died was bravery.
Of course you don’t. Because you are a vacuous lickspittle.
Posted on 4/23/22 at 10:10 pm to fr33manator
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Of course you don’t. Because you are a vacuous lickspittle.
Instead of going to personal attacks just be honest and say you can't defend your position.
Posted on 4/23/22 at 10:11 pm to OweO
The position that it took a LOT of brave men to beat back the Wehrmacht? I spit on you.
Posted on 4/23/22 at 10:14 pm to fr33manator
Spit on me? You seem like the bitch type who would actually spit on someone.
Posted on 4/23/22 at 10:17 pm to OweO
On you? Yes. I’d make an exception.
Posted on 4/23/22 at 10:21 pm to fr33manator
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On you? Yes. I’d make an exception.
I'll let you have the last word because any response I give would get me banned.
Posted on 4/23/22 at 10:29 pm to OweO
Bring it bitch. Still waiting on your oh so witty response in the movie name thread
Posted on 4/24/22 at 12:53 am to Liberator
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Globalists
quote:I’m assuming these are euphemisms for Jews, but could you explain why the frick they wanted to finance a guy who was openly anti-Semitic, persecuted and killed Jews, and would re-invent the global order had he succeeded? That doesn’t make any sense.
Int'l Bankers
Posted on 4/24/22 at 6:29 am to RollTide1987
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An icon of evil was born in Austria on this day 133 years ago
Literally Hitler!
Posted on 4/24/22 at 10:25 am to HerkFlyer
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Elena Ceausescu
What makes her so bad?
Posted on 4/24/22 at 12:07 pm to goodgrin
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You're just an uninformed, ignorant fool like those folks that think the Pentagon, the most important and critical military building in the entire world, was hit by a commercial jet. There are ZERO clear videos of a commercial airline hitting it.
I would expect this thread to bring out a Holocaust denier or two, wasn’t expecting it to bring out the flat-Earther (Liberator) and a 9/11 Conspiracy theorist.
Posted on 4/24/22 at 12:14 pm to 0x15E
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In that picture he’s a dic-tater-tot
Its these kind of posts that keep me coming back to this place. And literally the first response. Made me belly laugh.
Posted on 4/24/22 at 12:34 pm to RollTide1987
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This so-called Business Plot likely never happened.
The article claims that Butler never offered any kind of evidence that there was a fascist putsch being planned against the government other than his word and virtually zero evidence implicating Prescott Bush.
I tried slow-rolling the truth in a pair of short sources in hope that their detail-light information was read and dots of an actual failed coup and collaboration to help finance Germany's pre-WW2 war machine was sufficiently connected.
Reducing what is now often referred to as a mere "Business Plot" is frankly just a much too kind, sanitized phrase for THE truth of the matter; It *was* a "Coup," "Plot," and "Treason". ("Investigation" launched, ZERO indictments. SAME OLD Same-Old whether 1934. 1963. 2002. 2022.)
There are too many actual and available detailed articles that report on the 1934 Coup Plot (legitimately foiled by General Smedley Butler, who was selected to lead it.)
Innumerable reports (and history) also reveal the many international bankers and industrialists involved (including one P. Bush) as nothing but war profiteers with NO loyalties either way other than to $$$$.
Ultimately, if one cares about the truth and "History" (other than from redacted, re-calibrated, and revised sources), then it will be pursued and rediscovered. (How many sources are needed??)
EXCERPT:
Over the course of the next several months, [General Smedley] Butler discovered that America’s financial elite centered around John Pierpont Morgan Jr., the Harrimans, the Melons, Warburgs, Rockefellers and Duponts were at the heart of the plot. These men used their agents such as Gerald MacGuire a Morgan-affiliated bond salesman, Democratic Party controllers John W. Davis and Thomas Lamont (both occupying directorships in the House of Morgan), Robert Sterling Clark (heir to the Singer sewing machine fortune), Grayson Prevost Murphy and Harriman Family investment banker Prescott Bush.
All of these characters had become well known “investors” in European fascism, owned the biggest media platforms including Fortune and Time Magazine (both of which promoted Mussolini extensively for years), and controlled the levers of industry.
Luckily, the 1932-1934 Pecora Commission exposed these forces publicly as the architects of the great depression, making their ability to acquire popular support and sympathy more than a little difficult.
Outlining his Committee’s findings Pecora had written publicly:
“Undoubtedly, this small group of highly placed financiers, controlling the very springs of economic activity, holds more real power than any similar group in the U.S.A.”
LINK
If anyone is interested in the sordid details:
Duluth Reader
Canadian Patriot
This post was edited on 4/24/22 at 12:56 pm
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